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Akali shroud Lee Sin e Interaction a Bug? or intended

Executioner Thel·9/20/2019, 2:38:27 AM·2 votes·2,996 views
ExecutionerThel29 - akali w lee sin e bug testing

The Link leads to a clip I recorded with some testing about the interactions between Akali's W "Twilight Shroud" and Lee Sin's first e "Tempest" Akali's Twilight Shroud is a place able area where Akali is Invisible when not attacking. Only true sight and tower sight reveals this invisibility. If Lee Sin activates Tempest all targets hit are given the sight debuff allowing them to be seen in fog of war and bushes. It does not reveal stealth-ed targets. If Lee SIn activates tempest while Akali is shrouded him and his team will not be able to see Akali.

If Lee Sin hits tempest on Akali before she walks into the shroud or activates the shroud Akali is visible to Lee Sin and his team.

I'm not sure if this is intended or not and this may affect other invisible Champions but I thought I'd report these findings to Riot and the community. Personally I think this interaction is annoying and unneeded as it only works in very common instances and removes a lot of the differences between Invisibility and Camouflage.

Regardless I hope this post brought attention to how the video game works.

Cheers, Executioner Thel Kled Gangplank Ornn Akali

4 Comments

SEKAI9/20/2019, 2:50:28 AM1 votes

Because Lee Sin used E BEFORE Akali went into stealth.

If he used it after, then it does not reveal. Only Lee's Q reveals unit that is already in stealth, since it gives True Sight.

It's been how vision work as far as I've noticed. My understanding is that the only difference between Sight and True Sight is that the latter cancels the effect of invisibility even after has taken effect before the sight ability, but they both prevent invisibility from taking place if an unit is affected by either before entering stealth.

Could be wrong, though.

S V 9/20/2019, 2:52:29 AM1 votes

Given : "Tempest: Lee Sin smashes the ground, sending out a shock wave that deals magic damage and reveals enemy units hit. If Tempest hits an enemy, Lee Sin can cast cripple for the next 3 seconds." "While inside the shroud, Akali becomes invisible and unable to be selected by enemy spells and attacks and gains Movement Speed... Stealth - Invisible: Akali can only be revealed by nearby enemy Turrets or True Sight."

Lee Sin E : Sight not True Sight Akali W : Invisible not Camouflage

Case 1 : Lee Sin E ---> Akali W Lee Sin casts E Akali conditions are met so Sight Debuff is applied for X time Akali casts W (Does not remove debuffs, it just grants invisible buff)

This causes sight debuff to still be applied and enemies to attack her in shroud.

Case 2 : Akali W ---> Lee Sin E Akali casts W Lee Sin casts E Akali conditions are not met as Lee Sin E only applies Sight, not True Sight so debuff doesn't land (The damage is a different case)

This causes sight debuff will not be applied and enemies can't click and hit her.

As much as I hate akali, I do believe that "Akali can only be revealed by nearby enemy Turrets or True Sight" should hold true. How to fix this? Give Akali a cleanse only on the sight debuff.