Silver V, kinda rusty, support/mid/top? main LF someone to play with

MeltedWater··1 votes·449 views

Please have Discord or Curse for voice comms. I would prefer to play with only 1 or 2 other people, not a group of 4 or 5. Please be Bronze or Silver (or unranked, even pre-30) just no Gold+.

If I play support, I want to try out the new Alistar.

If I play TOP, i WILL play KARTHUS. If you have a problem with this, DO NOT ADD ME. He currently has 3rd highest win rate among the 80 most common top champions, so I don't even wanna hear it.

Add meh.

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ImLikeGoku1 votes

He is actually 14th, but you have to account that he only has a 0.17% Play rate people that only look at win rates are not looking at everything as a big picture, NOT hating though do your thing ! lol just putting that out there Edit: Also just to note he is 56 on play rate, the very lowest on the c.gg list

MeltedWater1 votes

I went to a second site than the one I got my info on. http://www.lolking.net/charts?region=all&type=champion-winrate&range=daily&map=sr&queue=normal without even changing parameters, he's 5th for overall in normal queue. So....

MeltedWater1 votes

Original source: http://lolalytics.com/grid/

This is worldwide for the last 7 days, Plat+ only. So since I'm not plat, meh, but still.

ImLikeGoku1 votes

You said for Top champions, which I thought you meant top lane, lol still everything I said still applies, other than the fact that I was looking at Top lane champs and not every champ as a whole, thats a chart also saying Galio has the number 1 win rate, but then again you need to factor in Play rates otherwise thats like saying I am the fastest person ever on facebook, but then really i'm just saying I am the fastest person every, in the room I am standing in rn. lol

MeltedWater1 votes

Note that if you switch it to this patch only, Karthus is #2 for top and #1 for mid.

Also note that he had like 2nd for top and first for mid for normal mode. Plat ranked, and normals, is the same. Screw silver.

ImLikeGoku1 votes

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Note that if you switch it to this patch only, Karthus is #2 for top and #1 for mid.

Also note that he had like 2nd for top and first for mid for normal mode. Plat ranked, and normals, is the same. Screw silver.

AGAIN though you are not accounting play rate lol, that is like 100 out of 1000000 people making that win rate stat

ImLikeGoku1 votes

Sorry again I am not trying to say its bad or anything like that, DO YOU but yeah just saying flat out he has 5th highest win rate on lolking, in normals, with a .17% play rate which is like what 100 at most high elo karthus mains that play on average 150 games in that champ . If you knew all this cool I just wanted to let you, and anyone that looks at this know all of the details lol gl in your games though

ImLikeGoku1 votes

Okay last thing like I said I know what the list says, but its a list put out there so you can compare it all, win rate ban rate play rate all that your not "supposed" to just look at one stat and then BAM Galio number 1 win rate among every champ he is good guys, about 500 games are played daily on Karthus, 17,630 are played on Lee sin gotta think about it like that lol

MeltedWater1 votes

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Okay last thing like I said I know what the list says, but its a list put out there so you can compare it all, win rate ban rate play rate all that your not "supposed" to just look at one stat and then BAM Galio number 1 win rate among every champ he is good guys, about 500 games are played daily on Karthus, 17,630 are played on Lee sin gotta think about it like that lol

Those numbers are incredibly low, but I assume they are just examples. But anyway, who cares? So what did I just prove, did I prove that Karthus and Galio are good champs if you know how to play them correctly? We don't really have statistics on people who play other champions correctly, because maybe there are a lot of people who play, for example, Lee Sin badly. But in one example I'm giving is Plat+ ranked games. Plat+ players don't play champions they suck with in ranked. So all those Lee Sin games, all those Darius games, all those Talon games? Those players are ALSO playing champions they are good with, and yet still fail to win as often as players do when they play Karthus. When you look at Plat+ statistics, it's pretty freakin' accurate.

Another thing I'd like to note, this IS all given that you have good teams that know what they're doing. Karthus isn't good on a team that doesn't know what they're doing, and I run into that a lot in Silver. But when I make it out of Silver, I might just be better off playing Karthus -- even top -- than playing another champion, given his win rates.

MeltedWater1 votes

I WAS talking about top lane...

And you clearly don't know how statistics work. The numbers may be harder to rely on or skewed with a smaller sample size, but that's not comparable to being the fastest person on Facebook in the room you're standing in (or whatever the hell horrible analogy you were making). The difference is that every time Karthus wins a game, he's in a game with 10 other people, 5 of which who lose, and he wins more often than pretty much everyone else (except Sion/Yorick, depending on which graph). And he was played in 1.1% of games for normal queue. 1.1% of MILLIONS is a big number, and a large enough sample size, to be honest. Don't know what you're wanting there. Pick rate isn't important when the numbers are as big as they are.

Even in Plat+ for since the patch, there are over 13.9 MILLION games. Even though Karthus was only played top in 0.2% of games, which of course is a round number because with a number that small a lot of rounding WAS involved, however, it's between 0.15% to 0.24%). 0.15% of games would be 20,850 games, and that's on the LOW end. 0.2% is 27,800. So anyway, are you telling me 27,800 games isn't enough for a good sample size? Really? Karthus won 53.3% of the games, or approximately 14,817 games out of 27,800. You don't think that's impressive odds?

Also, I looked at the chart wrong. He's 4th for mid, not 1st, on the normal one for daily (but still #1 on mid on Plat+ for since the patch). Anywho, we also don't know for sure which lane everyone went to in those games anyway but just saying mid champions in general there. Still 2nd for top though, only Yorick has higher win rate.

ImLikeGoku1 votes

I'm looking on that site that you were using rn checking it, and no me saying that I am the fastest person ever , is just like what that site is saying about karthus having 4th highest win rate in mid. It is 100% facts right, but I'm NOT factoring in that me and my roommate are the only 2 people in this room right now when I made that statement, just like that site doesn't say right there on that stat that he is one of the top 5 least champions played

MeltedWater1 votes

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I'm looking on that site that you were using rn checking it, and no me saying that I am the fastest person ever , is just like what that site is saying about karthus having 4th highest win rate in mid. It is 100% facts right, but I'm NOT factoring in that me and my roommate are the only 2 people in this room right now when I made that statement, just like that site doesn't say right there on that stat that he is one of the top 5 least champions played

Again, that's a horrible analogy. You either don't know how statistics work, or you don't know how analogies work.

MeltedWater1 votes

A better analogy would be like asking everybody to have like a race every week for a year, but you only have to participate 5 times, and then seeing who is fastest. Overall you're faster, but you didn't compete as much. Though when you did compete, you did better, so it's really irrelevant. You don't have to run 52 times to show your skill; 5 is plenty.

ImLikeGoku1 votes

Okay yeah you are right about the analogy, now that I reread it again lol it still just did not want people to misconceive the WHOLE picture of the statement/fact that Karthus has 4th highest win rate, because whenever people have tried to say things like that in game or etc it just grinds me because alot of people i've talked to take it to heart that bam he is the 4th best champion rn bc he has the 4th highest win rate, when everything is not being factored in

ImLikeGoku1 votes

Just one way I think of it is, if today Karthus play rate jumped up to 10% and lee sin play rate went down to .2% as in only lee sin mains are playing lee and everyone and their mother are playing karthus, the win rates would change drastically and if you can't agree on that idk what to say lol

MeltedWater1 votes

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Just one way I think of it is, if today Karthus play rate jumped up to 10% and lee sin play rate went down to .2% as in only lee sin mains are playing lee and everyone and their mother are playing karthus, the win rates would change drastically and if you can't agree on that idk what to say lol

Actually, you have a point, and I do agree with you on that.

But you have to admit that it wouldn't change as much in Plat+ as overall. Since, like I said, people there generally only play champions they are good at. More accurately, most people in Plat+ are probably good no matter who they play.

ImLikeGoku1 votes

Yes okay I completely came out wrong the way I was saying things early on I was talking to a friend and watching youtube not you know putting everything in on it lol, I am finally gonna start a match though lol again GL on your games summoner

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