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Inside Hextech Crafting

Riot··8 votes·61,922 views

Welcome to the latest installment of the League Community Podcast, a series in which we take you behind-the-scenes with the people who help make League possible. Expect new guests and new stories every couple of weeks or so, and make sure to hit us with those sweet comments and ratings so we can keep striving toward a Challenger tier podcast.

This week, we got to know a couple members of the Hextech Crafting team and picked their brains on the upcoming feature, progression systems, and of course, phat lewts.


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136 Comments

Deep Terror Nami40 votes

:( Wish this came in a TL;DR text format so I can just skim through the information I find important. Speed listening just doesn't work XD

DEMAGLIOOOOOOOOO2 votes

transcribing is damn hard work and even if you get a robot to do it, someone has to check it for errors

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

The important information is likely not much. I didn't mean transcribe the entire thing (hence "TL;DR").

RiotZwill11 votes

Hey DTN,

If you're looking for a TLDR I really recommend checking out the infosite for crafting and loot: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/site/2016-season-update/champion-mastery.html

Generally speaking, the podcasts are not meant to be a quick summary of new features, but rather to provide insight into the reason behind the design and to get to know the folks behind the game.

I definitely recommend listening to the podcast in the background while you're doing something else, like playing League :). It makes for a great experience!

As always, thanks for your feedback.

Deep Terror Nami6 votes

I was only interested if the podcast had new information that hasn't been released elsewhere is all. Thanks for your response Zwill :3

AnnieKillzYou2 votes

I love you guys so much, Thanks for the Hextech Annie Skin! I will literally pay anything for more Annie skins :D

BlackFenox2 votes

hey I just have one question on hextech crafting i havent seen answered yet: Will our rank 5's be grandfathered in or not for the boxes that we get for hitting rank 5, because I have about 12 champs at rank 4 I've been dieing to play again since the announcement and are about one D rank worth of CP away from hitting r5, but I dont want to waste the boxes

Kinjishi1 votes

At what level do players start earning Hextech keys and chests? Couldn't find this in articles for Hextech that I checked.

GRAYxKNIGHT13 votes

if your responsible for champ select, you could add the ability to organize personal champ selects. with the hundreds of champs and several different champs can perform different roles, and different roles being able to do several different things, it can be really difficult to pick a champ that you can play in your limited time. being able to sort your own champions by what YOU specifically play in each role would make it so much easier to make the best decision for the team that you have, against whatever they have picked. like say wukong top would have been PERFECT for your teams initiation, but you forgot he existed so you picked jax and just hoped you could carry.

also, as a side note PLEASE LET ME LOOK AT MY CHAMPIONS WHILE EVERYONE ELSE IS PICKING IN THE NEW CHAMP SELECT!

sinsix2 votes

Unless I am misunderstanding what you mean, I believe you can. In the HUD type area, along the bottom, there is an up arrow in the middle. Click it.

Fluffehkins11 votes

This Hextech idea is amazing. I love that we can finally earn stuff. And it cant be rushed either. It will still be lengthy to get rewards but we can atleast get stuff without paying an arm and a leg :D item 2050 item 2050

DeathShephard8 votes

I wonder if Graves' cigar is one of the chests?

2D arrays2 votes

Sona took Graves' cigar already

Rindin147 votes

on the subject of the champion mastery system: why are your points gained based so heavily on whether you win or lose? It seems to me that the system is one of the few that is based on individual skill, yet I still get far more points when my team carries me to a win than when I earn an S grade but still lose because of a bad team.

Kinjishi4 votes

Very much agreed. Mastery points should be graded more on individual performance than W/L. Getting 10x the amount of points for a win is ridiculous.

Sezen5 votes

inb4 kids salty about ks

since you need a good rating to get keys

Kinjishi2 votes

Pretty much what is going to happen. Unfortunately...

Fondling Gems2 votes

it isn't exactly difficult to get an S ranking on any champ. On the champs I main I get an S ranking about 1 in 3 games minimum. A bit more for champs I don't play as much. However even champs that I pick up for the first time I can usually get an S ranking within 6 or so games. And you don't need to KS to get higher ranking. All of my main champs are supports and I try to never get more than 3 kills in a game when I am support. I don't think you need to worry about ksing so much.

Jhin Boy8 votes

When you go 14/0/12 and only get an A+ rating.....

Kinjishi3 votes

Exacty this. Would be interesting to see how Riot actually grades performance, but then... everyone would know the details. =b

FireyFoe205 votes

I think you guys should make all runes and mastery points available from summoner level 1, even if runes still cost IP, just so players don't have to wait until level 30 to seriously play champions who rely on runes and masteries

Nerdzlek3 votes

Idealistically the current system forces players to get good with (comparative to tier 3 runes) no runes, so that their skill goes up and makes them a better player. Having all rune slots available from the beginning would make players rely heavily on runes when they should instead be focusing on mechanics and skill. I'll even occasionally remove my runes to brush up on last hitting mechanics and what not.

Cosnirak3 votes

Pretty excited for it to come out, sad I'm gonna have to wait probably 2 months from now for that to happen. I enjoyed hearing you guys talk about the load testing that happens for features and the team of people who do that sort of thing.

Rattle my Bone3 votes

i like soup

Darmerz2 votes

I'm just waiting til we have the option to get level 6 and 7 champion mastery. How else am i going to trkDisrespect these folks. Udyr

Laggerto2 votes

Wow I cant hear a thing smh

Laggerto14 votes

had headset in wrong port sorry!!!!!

Orangeluma2 votes

Episode 9? Looks like 8 to me lol

Silat2 votes

I like listening to these, they're very calming and relaxing while playing a first game of league or an aram.

Though you should play some very light background music at times! Just a suggestion!

2D arrays2 votes

Insert 2 Girls 1 Cup piano music here

Joshcrawller2 votes

not to comment on something of topic but can you fix the bug that allows people to pick free role champs in champ select

Tamashii Kitsune2 votes

I actually play bot matches to learn new champions, i want an easy first win of the day, or i want a casual game. A casual competitive if you will. I'd like to see the point where if this is how you prefer to play, you don't get penalized for it. Also, it was said that if you help your team to an S rank, it helps you. But does that include that fact i join a game as a solo player in a Normal (draft pick) game, does the people it puts me with count as my "team"?

XHysteria2 votes

I know there are rewards for reaching a level 5 mastery on the champ but will we get rewards for the champs we already reached lvl 5 with prior to the hextech debut?

Zquinox1 votes

From what I've read, unless something else was stated in the podcast, You don't get it at 5, but instead at another rank right above it that will be introduced.

Zelgoth00023 votes

There will be no new rank. When you finish a game, you get a score (seen by mousing over the champion mastery) and if you get an S, you get a chest.

Lal Prince Cimba2 votes

okay so, i did 7 days rental and do i get that skin back and upgrade the skin after i get it back?

jermgazitsang2 votes

i got a S in my game with my friends, only my friends got the BOX for Hextech, but i didn't, why is that so?

Joanna JQueen1 votes

just release it in 6.3, no point in testing this

eternal ravanger33 votes

sure. just release it untested, so that we get all kinds of bugs that render the hextech crafting unable to be used and needing to be removed for an extended amount of time thanks to your impatience

xX Sagi Xx3 votes

Yeah man, sounds about right, can't argue with you there, but what if the bugs and glitches worked to out advantage? o.o

SacOfJaWeeda3 votes

one time, I bought Khazix but at the same time, someone reported me, so it allowed me to keep my 6.3K, so I hovered over Azir and it said I could buy him, but I wanted to save for something else, so I log off, and when I come back, I don't have it anymore :(

Spiritclaw2 votes

It's funny because Khazix is a bug and Azir had tons of dank memes about being buggy.

Crossette2 votes

Oh, you mean Dynamic Queue?

The thing that was disabled for a whole extra week after like two months of testing on PBE?

KaldonWK1 votes
 Hey, so here is what I understood from the podcast plus a bit  a research on the web. (some from Rito Q&A).So lets get started. 

-You can get 1 chest per champ per season when you get a S grade (S-,S,S+). Another limit is you can only receive 4 chest per month (about 1 per week). now that is 52 chances in 1 year.

-I personally, although a mediocre champ base, have a champ base of 56 owned champions. about 15 I could play to get a S grade by myself,15 chest would quite a small amount of chests to get in a year. (Given other info). there seems to be a way to scam the system if you have really good friends. If you cant get a S with all those 52 different champs, you can have a friend who is good at a champ get a S in a premade with you. This will allow you to get the chest for that champ. So say Im bad at Hec. I can have my buddy get a Easy S with his Yasuo,Fizz,Garen,Darius,Jax,victo... Sorry Im digressing, in a premade with me while Im playing hec Jung,or something, to get the chest for Hec.

-Skin shards chart for disenchanting and crafting. RP value Disenchant craft 975 skin = 322 essence = 675 essence 1820 skin = 610 essence = ? 3250 Skin = 1073 essence = ? these are the main skin types people will care about, it seems to be about 2 (975) disenchants + specific (975) skin shard= That (975) Skin At about 52 chests a year this seems ok. If you only were getting Skins shards, but you get icons, ward skins, and champions in there too! Someone opened 1000 in PBE got 316 champion shard, 591 skin shards, 54 ward skins, 39 Icons. along with 39 double gifts and 40ish gems(re-rolls for the chest). From what I have seen the ratios are good with legacy, legendary and ultimate skins. IF a Riot DEV reads this part of the comment only or if you could send this to someone who can make this happen. I feel this Part is THE MOST IMPORTANT ! -Not offering these for IP is a BIG mistake. Even if its 3-4K IP for the set, This is something you NEED to get out, people have WAY too much free IP sitting around. You need to add this Especially if you plan to also add champion shards in the mix. Personally, I dont know about everyone, I will never buy a champ for RP ,it {IMO} is a complete waste of money when you can just put time in and get it. So there needs to be a way of opting out of getting champions shards, or purchasing it with IP. I say because I try and fail,I like skins way too much, to keep my self from spending too much money on this game. Also if Im limited on the number of chests I can earn each year and 10 of my 52 end up being champ shard at the end of a YEAR, I would be greatly disappointed in my loot from a years worth of chests.

AS always thanks for reading my comment. If you made it down this far xD. Ill see you on the Rift! Also if you are in PBE and can fill in a comment of a better graph for the essence that would be GREAT!

Fondling Gems1 votes

It really shouldn't be so hard to get an S ranking. As someone who only got to Silver last year and mains support I can get an S ranking on pretty much any champ within at an absolute maximum of 1 games. And that includes champs that I have never used before. Even on my worst champ by far (Vayne) it only took me a couple games to get an S ranking. I do still like the idea of spending IP on hextech but there is something you should think of. Someone in your position SHOULDN'T burn IP on hextech stuff. You should use your IP for more useful things like champions, runes, and rune pages. While this system is a little bit tilted towards people who own/play most of the champs in LOL, allowing people to spend IP on hextech would benefit them much more than you. just something to keep in mind.

Sharks R Friends1 votes

why

Wreckage12343231 votes

Kinda Pumped to listen to the podcast! im new to the podcast scene btw :p

Wax481 votes

Hey Riot, could you guys change, I don't know. The fact that we can get skins in re-roll of champions we don't own???? Because it's very disappointing when you re-roll three skin shards only to get a skin you can't use because you don't own the champion. I don't know like maybe Hextech crafting could put in mind the skin you do have when re-rolling??? same with champions hopefully, to a certain extent.

Kolonial1 votes

Is there a place to report a problem with hextech crafting? Like, if I made a skin shard into a permanent, but then it's still locked?

Yllumynaty1 votes

Hello what are the chances on hextech crafting to get skins that i alredy have and why do i keep geting champ shards i mean its good to have them but i alredy have all the champs cant riot do somthing about theyre old players how are waiting to buy the new champ?

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