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Client Beta Update #3: Closer to Completion

Riot··6 votes·51,125 views

Hello good people and also Yasuo mains,

Recently we've been talking about why we have to replace League's legacy client. We've got a number of highfalutin technical explanations, but it boils down to this: The sooner everyone's using the updated client, the sooner we can start delivering cool new client features.

Last month, we introduced our plan for replacing the legacy client. We've just completed Phase 1 of the plan and begun Phase 2, starting in Oceania. Below is an updated look at the plan.


The Legacy Client Replacement Plan

NOW COMPLETE: Phase 1 - A small group of randomly-selected players from Oceania, Russia, Brazil, and the Latin America servers were automatically upgraded to the new client, although they still had the ability to launch the legacy client from the login screen. No big problems were encountered during this phase.

MONDAY, APRIL 10 IN OCEANIA: Phase 2 - All players in Oceania were automatically upgraded to the updated client, with the legacy client turned off. We've begun Phase 2 in some shards in China and Garena regions as well.

Phase 3 - Assuming Phase 2 goes well, more regions will be automatically upgraded to the updated client, and the legacy client will be retired. This will happen automatically when players launch League without requiring the download of additional files (beyond that of the regular patch for that week). Soon after Phase 3, we'll replace the legacy client with the updated client on all publicly-hosted game download pages.

Phase 4 - We'll automatically remove legacy client files from your machine to free up space.

Note: This gradual rollout will give us time to monitor player feedback and make adjustments in response. We'll alter these plans or delay the rollout if we find that more significant changes are necessary.


SO WHAT'S NEXT?

That's a good question, imaginary caps-lock person. After each phase, we'll evaluate how the updated client is doing compared to the legacy client. If it's performing at least as well or better than the legacy client, we'll move forward to the next phase. If we see serious problems (like widespread bugs preventing players from getting into games) we'll slow down the client rollout process to address the issue. Removing the legacy client is the most crucial part of this process, and we want to be extra careful about it.

Assuming Phase 2 goes well, the next step is to officially end the client beta in all other regions, enacting Phase 3 and upgrading all clients in all regions. If you've opted into the client beta—as over 90 percent of players worldwide have already done—this process won't affect you beyond removing the "Launch Legacy Client" button from the new client's login screen.

Got questions? We'll stick around in the comments.

451 Comments

El Boyó251 votes

I have a question, when will the new client integrate build pages? I miss the days of not having to type into the search bar the items I want to build.Nautilus

CallMePapaChaos107 votes

Yes it really would be great to have the item sets again. It was so helpful.

Pixilate42 votes

I think they mentioned at first that they weren't planning to, yet due to demand they're thinking about it. However I don't think it's one of their top priorities at the moment.

Kairoptra43 votes

FEAR NOT. It'll be coming once the new client is fully implemented!

Seppuku119122 votes

They have confirmed it officially in one of their Q&As

VoxelLibrary23 votes

YEESSSSSSSS, this was the first thing I missed about the old client!

Upvoting everyone.

Ezreal DuCouteau7 votes

login only for voting u up

RiotRiot Grumbles25 votes

We heard the feedback and we're working on item sets. They'll be back in one form or another sometime after the transition to the new client.

grimgrimmett15 votes

if the client is updated with out the item builder that just killed it for me -_- its the most important tool for me. i never use the recommended and looking for items takes me so long that you would think i went afk. i have 71 champs and trying to get them all and i also try to play with all of them so i know how all the champs work. i try to build an item set for every champ but work on it as i go after each game when im in que for the next game till i have it down and most of the time there is only 1 or 2 of the items i use on the recommended. so basically if the client is updated before the item builder is put in the game is pretty much unplayable for me

RiotRiot Cactopus96 votes

You're talking about the item set creator tool. We initially weren't going to bring it back, but we changed our minds based on player reaction. There's currently a team developing it, but I expect it'll take some time before it's complete.

That being said, we didn't remove item sets themselves, and all your old item sets will keep working. Also, we let third-party developers build item sets using our third party API, so while I'm waiting on our dev team to finish rebuilding the item set creator tool I'm personally using this website to make my item sets: http://lol.item-set.com/#!/editor

Lord Galvatron31 votes

Rip Mac users. Sorting through Mac coding in order to make the custom item sets is like trying to hack into CIA servers with only the URL of the Webkinz website.

Also there also a bug currently where your previous Item sets do not show up in game which might want to be looked at.

BLACK REALM GOD19 votes

i'd rather have a riot certified in client league of legends item builder that i can trust to be accurate and updated 24/7.

please give the team that's working on it my regards and request that it be more of a champ builder and not just an item set builder.

what good does it do me to build an item set if i cant tell how it works on my champion until i've started a match?

i like knowing how much items cost and what they provide before loading up a game and to be honest even the league web page is outdated more often than not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeY3aykTeCY

one like the one from smite would be nice, but with more flexibility. hi-rez has a habit of stealing other games content, but i do genuinely like their item and ability builder and their god stats page.

here's a better video with some guy who's terrible at explaining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz_zU5HjyNo

InnovationTT6 votes

Why do I have to play a match in the legacy client after I update my item sets there in order for them to show up in the new client? It would be much easier to just update them there instead of downloading and replacing any files manually.

DankyMcPot52 votes

And Yasuo mains.... lul

GGRU SimonsMommy8 votes

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RiotRiot Cactopus64 votes

i got burned you guys please send help

meanwhile i'll be over here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_burn_centers_in_the_United_States

SonofMoses14 votes

logged on because I <3 Cactopus

LaunieSpiral34 votes

Will our classic and ARAM ranks (games won, cs score..) be implemented, as well? I always liked seeing how many classics or ARAMs I have won in total!

Rose Valentine4 votes

i agree when will we get them back i want it back

RiotRiot Cactopus27 votes

It's definitely a known issue that the profile needs more stats. We're intending to make some improvements to the profile page going forward so we'll keep this in mind then.

Walker 4207 votes

YES PLEASE RIOT. ARAM IS SOME PEOPLES MAIN GAME MODE TO PLAY.

Cavill23 votes

The new client is still so slow though, to the point where I almost get kicked in champ select because the client freezes when I try to change my summoner spells... and no I don't play on a toaster

RiotRiot Cactopus12 votes

Did you enable Low-Spec Mode? It's for anyone having issues, not just people on toasters.

Best Kog NA11 votes

In the config files isn't Low-Spec mode variable named Potato mode?

dmilin10 votes

http://imgur.com/a/TkaT3

Yes. Yes it is.

Oleandervine19 votes

For the love of the gods, have you made the mastery/rune pages into tabs like on the legacy client, or do we have to suffer through drop menus? Drop menus are probably the least efficient way to navigate.

NoBladeWarranty18 votes

This client crashes wayyy to much all im saying is that im afraid for this to be releasedsummoner 3

PurpleTheMage17 votes

"hello good people and also yasuo mains" Fuck you to rito <3Yasuo

RiotRiot Cactopus68 votes

<3

dmilin9 votes

*too

LawfulDread16 votes

Yasuo mains are not people! Confirmed by riot!

legendarytiger4 votes

they're not "good people"

BeatzBoyFTW15 votes

MONDAY, APRIL 10 IN OCEANIA: Phase 2 - All players in Oceania were automatically upgraded to the updated client, with the legacy client turned off. We've begun Phase 2 in some shards in China and Garena regions as well.

#"Going to sleep means saying goodbye" -Galio

Thought of this quote, as I went to hit my very last "Log Out" button on this old client.

http://imgur.com/I5Bxgvs

So long, you old laggy crap client. You will be dearly missed...

http://imgur.com/nDvr4Dc [zombie-nunu-tears]

KAYDEL14 votes

You can't seriously be thinking of releasing this to the public... There are still so many problems with it, so many bugs and performance issues. You assume anyone who reports the client being slow and unresponsive have low-end computers. I have a very high-end PC and run into all of these issues. Your "upgraded" client is nowhere close to being ready for release. You still haven't even made champion purchasing possible on the champion page. Please, for all of your fans, spend at least the rest of 2017 making your client actually usable. League of Legends is the most played game in the world by far, so the fact that your client is still so shitty after more than a year of it being in beta is honestly pathetic.

Lambyy6 votes

Its really probably your computer, The new client worked perfectly on low-spec mode for my old laptop, and now that i have a beast of a pc it works perfect on regular settings, Its almost entirely just an isolated case for you that you should figure out yourself. or just enable low spec? [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

RisenDarkKnight8 votes

It is not his computer, I and all my friends still have major performance issues with the new client. And yes I'm using low spec mode.

T1DECALLER13 votes

I REALLY WANT THE BUILDING PAGE RIOT PLZ MAKE IT BACKKatarina item 3146

Jrud13 votes

As a dev myself, when I first downloaded this game a few years ago and noticed that it was using fad languages like Adobe Air, and pando media booster and stuff I was totally confused... why wasn't the whole thing just written in C# or C++? I'm glad to see it's being put into a framework that's a bit more timeless :).

But I thought Riot was going to wait until more issues were resolved before forcibly rolling out the new client. I'm using it for the most part (because of how damned beautiful it is), but it is super buggy sometimes.

I would have hoped the dev teams would have done the following things at least before forcing us into the new client:

  1. Reduce game start glitches and bugs. I still get lots of issues with it not showing the champions when it should, though I've only dropped from probably 2 load screens, that's still 2 load screens too many imo. Nobody would call mine a 'low spec' computer, so I didn't even put a second thought to changing to low spec mode when I saw the option... perhaps you should think about putting a different label on it ("Simple Graphics" for example).

  2. Re-Create the item sets section. I use them constantly, and this is the main reason I switch back to the old client sometimes... I did see in another post that there are some 3rd party sites that help make them via the API. Might be a good enough work-around for now but I really wish it would be integrated into the client again.

  3. Please, for the love of god-fist, fix the store. The store should never 'time out' it's been like that for literally years, but it's worse in the new client. I have to actually close and restart the client to get the store to come up most of the time now. Same with the loot section. I have to reboot to get into it sometimes.

  4. Oh man, you have to do something about those notices going in front of the store/loot button and not having a close on them. I'm talking about those little pop-up messages that say that a summoner dodged or something that go over your loot and store buttons on the home page. If you are planning on keeping them there, I need to be able to close them faster so I can get into the store and loot buttons. They are very annoying.

Camster50009 votes

why is there no intermediate option in co-op vs ai, 3v3 bots.

iDabWax9 votes

what happens to the players that were beta testers on the new client and the client would not work right on my CPU. legit the client laggs and ive missed multiple Champ picks and que pops becuase of the client reacting to my cpuLeeSin

Mannythevillian7 votes

What will happen to those with low spec pc that cant run the new client without game breaking lag? the legacy client did a great job to make sure that the client could be run smoothly on almost any computer Jhin

TTV saintsyanks6 votes

When will my shop be back? For PAX, Lunar Revel, Snowdown, what?

RiotRiot Cactopus11 votes

We're working on it. Shouldn't take too many more patches.

Firesheath6 votes

Is there any word on whether the 'advanced' stats will be available at some point in the new client? The one where it shows your wins/losses with filters for individual champs? It also tracks your pentakills and total damage taken, etc?

It's still available on the legacy client, but I haven't seen it anywhere in the new client.

Pud855 votes

yo fix it when i select a game mode I don't accidentally click and pannel over to twisted treeline because my cursor was close to it but not on it by mistake

RiotRiot Cactopus44 votes

IMPROVE YOUR MOUSE ACCURACY

jk we can probably fix this easily. I'll bring it up with the team.

Rebel Phoenix1716 votes

While talking to them, any chance you could mention that the notifications on the right ("a player left queue" for example) blocks the Loot and Store buttons.

Fondling Gems8 votes

More importantly for me is that they also block the champion search bar when you get into a game, and it can block it for a good 5 seconds which is pretty annoying in blind pick.

Fourthfifth2 votes

Why do item sets even matter? Do people not notice the recommended builds page in the in-game shop? Besides shouldn't you be itemizing for the game as it plays out not just a static build every game...

Redesignated13 votes

You bring up the recommended build sets — which are frequently horrible I might add — and then double-back and say people shouldn't use the same build all the time. Why even reference the recommended build sets?

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