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Why we're not releasing the Ahri Statue

RiotBradmore··183 votes·56,510 views

Hi Everyone,

We’ve decided not to release the Ahri Statue as scheduled on 12/7. We heard players’ feedback on Ahri’s face and want to take this opportunity to revisit this element of her design. Our aim is to make each experience you have with Riot Games Merch an amazing one -- whether it’s buying a poro at an esports event, unlocking Urf Figure via the Figure Fest mini-game, or unboxing one of our larger statues. We missed the mark on Ahri and we apologize.

SO HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? We want our statues to be accessible to as many players as possible and are constantly evaluating techniques that will allow us to deliver awesome art at lower price points. For Ahri, the goal was to deliver an epic statue at a retail price significantly below our polyresin Twisted Fate piece -- despite Ahri being similar in size and featuring greater sculpt complexity. To do this, we elected to make her body and face out of another material called PVC, which we used for the Thresh statue.

This decision and its associated production processes yielded a loss of resolution in the finer details and structure of Ahri’s face. We also applied Ahri’s eye makeup too heavily in production. All of this resulted in a final product that failed to fully capture Ahri’s unique look.

WHAT WILL WE DO NOW? We’re going to work with our manufacturing partners to find a solution that will delight Ahri fans while simultaneously meeting our goal of keeping statue prices contained. This will involve sending Ahri back to the factory and rethinking the design and construction of her face.

WILL THE AHRI STATUE RETURN? We hope so! We love the original concept of this piece and think that if we get the face right, then players will love her as well. That said, we’ll only release this statue if we can get it to the quality that players deserve, and that’s going to take some time. Thank you in advance for your patience.

We launched our merch store beta one year ago and the merch team has appreciated the feedback and support you have provided us along this journey. We love this game and these champions as much as you do and want you to be thrilled with our products. We didn’t meet that bar with Ahri, so we’re going to try again.

Thank you for your understanding.

299 Comments

Keevalroy118 votes

We’re going to work with our manufacturing partners to find a solution that will delight Ahri fans while simultaneously meeting our goal of keeping statue prices contained. This will involve sending Ahri back to the factory and rethinking the design and construction of her face.

Any chance on using her original splash art as a reference rather than the cinematic version? I'd think Ahri fans would much prefer that she looked like this.

http://i.imgur.com/gtzzgpr.jpg

LuvSicLane8 votes

I personally would love to see a statue in reference to the old splash art OR (and would be nice too, but one can dream, right?) a statue of Ahri's current splash art. I dunno I love both versions of the splash arts. :P

Keevalroy8 votes

I would much rather have it be based on the old splash if I had the choice. Consider how well both new versions were received when they were released - it's probably safer to go back to what made people happy.

Danaku14164 votes

I like the revamp of her dress the cinematic have but the overall look should be like the splash art.(still think they should add that cool print on the dress to the splash)

Samurai Blues15 votes

That splash is great but there is nothing wrong with her current.

Keevalroy9 votes

What's right with it?

No, I'm actually curious, why is there nothing wrong with it?

Ravio the Coward17 votes

Personally I love the sly, knowing look on her face in the splash. She has a sense of...superiority? As if she knows you're going to fall for her (unless you're...cough like me), that she's going to come out on top. I liked the statue for everything except the...slightly too heavy eyeliner.

HowPlayGAEM14 votes

This is the splash Ahri should have had.

It's what I imagine her to be like.

yay nibbers9 votes

I usually like eye shadow but the statue looked like it got punched in both eyes...

yay nibbers38 votes

I actually liked the design they had except for the face and the tails. The tails weren't nearly fluffy enough. What is Ahri without her fluffy tails? The statue's tails looked like the tails of a stray dog. #TouchFluffyTail

iHerring53 votes

I found it hard to stop giggling at the notion of a big whiteboard in Riots million dollar HQ, surrounded by frantic workers with one message in big block writing.

TAILS : FLUFFIER

MF is my Waifu92 votes

Who says they ignore feedback?

This is awesome.

Bijorn19 votes

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Who says they ignore feedback?

This is awesome.

All of the Mord players who have a worse standing champion now than pre-rework.

Keevalroy35 votes

Two different departments.

Mimzzz8 votes

Word. Worth mentioning everything that's happening with Mord currently was entirely predicted by Morde mains upon his rework reveal.

Scumble10 votes

Going back to the drawing board this close to the originally intended product release isn't cheap either.

The Soulforged10 votes

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Who says they ignore feedback?

This is awesome.

Some of riot's teams are amazing at taking feedback, others horrid. This team seems to be good at taking feedback and I applaud this act.

skycrimes28 votes

PLEASE don't forget her neck! I think most people were just overtaken by the face that they also failed to notice that the neck was extra long. Thanks for listening!

Nautricity25 votes

It's great to see that the community feedback was taken well into consideration before releasing it, +1 on the Riot Tally Board. Ahri

TheTenk25 votes

The Ahri statue is just a poor piece of work in general. The face features the awful look of the cinematic (the anorexic Cruella De Ville faces in the cinematic, to be exact, not the well-done bodies), the fingers are like sloppy sausages with no bones, the skin is lifeless and does not curve and fold in any way, the orb in her hand is far too condensed and her tails look like they're made of cement.

You talk about the "inferiority" or downsides of PVC as an excuse, citing the Thresh figure as example, but the Thresh figure is just awfully made in every way. Look at the Japanese hobby fig industry, where large figurines are made with PVC and they maintain stellar quality, higher than the Twisted Fate figurine. Not just that, they're cheaper! I understand the detail-power that polyresin allows for, but detail does not mean quality: Twisted Fate's face is embarassingly poorly rendered compared to the effort put into his environment.

Japanese Figurine Examples: [X] [X] [X]

With all due respect, your sculptors and/or manufacturers are just lacking in the skill to justify the prices you use. Try to learn from a more competent figurine industry so you can provide the best possible service to your customers.

Dreamspitter4 votes

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The Ahri statue is just a poor piece of work in general. The face features the awful look of the cinematic (the anorexic Cruella De Ville faces in the cinematic, to be exact, not the well-done bodies), the fingers are like sloppy sausages with no bones, the skin is lifeless and does not curve and fold in any way, the orb in her hand is far too condensed and her tails look like they're made of cement.

I dunno. I didnt really dislike the New Dawn look, but one poster (Neocyrus) called them "bizarre anime fap dolls" that were "straight from a lunatic's mind". A lot people had strong opinions on that cinematic.

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You talk about the "inferiority" or downsides of PVC as an excuse, citing the Thresh figure as example, but the Thresh figure is just awfully made in every way. Look at the Japanese hobby fig industry, where large figurines are made with PVC and they maintain stellar quality, higher than the Twisted Fate figurine. Not just that, they're cheaper! I understand the detail-power that polyresin allows for, but detail does not mean quality: Twisted Fate's face is embarassingly poorly rendered compared to the effort put into his environment.

Japanese Figurine Examples: [X] [X] [X]

With all due respect, your sculptors and/or manufacturers are just lacking in the skill to justify the prices you use. Try to learn from a more competent figurine industry so you can provide the best possible service to your customers.

And looking at this, I can see these people and others have far more experience, and their animu fap dolls are of far , far higher quality sculpts and for less.

I for one though, will actually miss "Ahri with the long neck".

Twisted fate....

https://na.merch.riotgames.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/t/w/twistedfatefront.png

He looks so badass! And you cant even see his fa-

https://na.merch.riotgames.com/media/catalog/product/t/f/tf_statue_detail1.jpg

#Oh....

Well um

#WHO MADE THESE?

http://i.imgur.com/Floeqbr.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ca0yLq3.jpg

The first one I am pretty sure its a knock off of some sort. The Nidalee though, looks ok to me, but somehow I think it's either a one off fan art, or unlicensed.

BUT!

The real questions are....

  1. Who approved this work and why?
  2. How many people actually bought this stuff (is it selling, the quality being what it is, for the price it is)
  3. Should Riot do this stuff in house, or have the work done by another group?

Honestly, I'd prefer they made an action figure line with, maybe like I dunno Todd Mcfarlane toys/Spawn.com and sell them at a much, much lower price...

Fasmodey18 votes

Thanks! You guys are awesome. If it was another company they probably would think like '' nah they will buy anyway ''. You guys really care about LoL community and feedbacks. I hope we see this caring in the future too.

Jack º10 votes

yea that face, was kinda... horrible :l thx u for doing this <3

Spaghetti SIut8 votes

{quoted} WILL THE AHRI STATUE RETURN? We hope so!

Even a slightly unsatisfactory Ahri statue is better than no Ahri statue. I agree that the face is a little lifeless and yet I find myself wishing they went ahead with the release. I really hope they come up with the solution soon. Just my opinion here.

Thorgarr7 votes

Please, actually release it though. I did not have quarrels with the ahri statue and i really wanted to order it. So please once you have it redone in a way you are proud of, perhaps by next year, please release her. Thank you.Ahri

Hurstan7 votes

Personally, I'm really happy Riot listened to the player base and decided against releasing it. Ahri was the champion that got me to start playing League of Legends and is my main champion. I would suggest that they not only look at the two splash arts that have been used but also high quality fan artwork. The end goal here is to have a statue of Ahri that is accurate to who she is and pleases a majority of people. The way to achieve that seems to be doing a sort of "meta analysis" of the selected artwork to find how they are all related in design and appearance. It seems to me like a majority of players like the previous splash art for Ahri. Maybe that could be used as the foundation for the design and traits that people find more appealing on different artwork could be implemented to enhance the traits from the most popular splash art. So, how should they go about doing this? That will have to be decided. This is just my opinion on finding a starting point and providing suggestions. Take of it what you will. One day I hope there will be an awesome statue of Ahri released. Until then, good luck fellow summoners!

Spread Cats7 votes

Please make her tails fluffier and her body less thin.

ZER0 27 votes

She is thin though.

WrathfulAzn6 votes

Just wanted to Say how I heartily agree with this decision. Thank you for Listening!!!! Just a Thought maybe in future you could try testing a figure with the community like at the first test print or something. Cause I am sure there are a lot of people you would like to have there Favorite Champion right next to them fully realize in on their glory.Ahri Ahri Ahri

Dominick Destine6 votes

Ahri is premium girl.

HowPlayGAEM6 votes

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SO HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? We want our statues to be accessible to as many players as possible and are constantly evaluating techniques that will allow us to deliver awesome art at lower price points. For Ahri, the goal was to deliver an epic statue at a retail price significantly below our polyresin Twisted Fate piece -- despite Ahri being similar in size and featuring greater sculpt complexity. To do this, we elected to make her body and face out of another material called PVC, which we used for the Thresh statue.

This decision and its associated production processes yielded a loss of resolution in the finer details and structure of Ahri’s face. We also applied Ahri’s eye makeup too heavily in production. All of this resulted in a final product that failed to fully capture Ahri’s unique look.

I applaud you guys for listening to feedback, but I don't think blaming it on PVC is correct. It is entirely possible to have well designed faces with PVC material.

http://s1.tsuki-board.net/image/OhnoRaptors1372128963.jpeg

http://s1.tsuki-board.net/image/thedante901400604793.jpeg

http://s1.tsuki-board.net/image/I_Kyubey1368189151.jpeg

http://s1.tsuki-board.net/image/Ardenor1392498002.jpeg

Tofu Prod3 votes

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I applaud you guys for listening to feedback, but I don't think blaming it on PVC is correct. It is entirely possible to have well designed faces with PVC material.

http://s1.tsuki-board.net/image/OhnoRaptors1372128963.jpeg

http://s1.tsuki-board.net/image/thedante901400604793.jpeg

http://s1.tsuki-board.net/image/I_Kyubey1368189151.jpeg

http://s1.tsuki-board.net/image/Ardenor1392498002.jpeg

100% agree.

Rico Nasty5 votes

Could you also make the orb a bit bigger?

Callyyy4 votes

I agree, the face was a total flop but I'm glad they're reworking the statue. The outfit was great, tails could've been fluffier, hair was nice, but one thing I do hope they fix is her sphere. It should be bigger and bluer, it's too turquoise and minute. What do y'all think?Ahri

XxfirepulsexX4 votes

for the orb, some transparent material could be nice. seemed to solid in my opinion.

High54 votes

I wasn't super happy with where LoL was heading during worlds or pre-season. Glad to see the merchandise groups and gameplay groups are turning a corner.

Love LoL and I feel like it's getting better again. Related to this post, planning to get plushes for my nieces.

Sinjid Zekachu4 votes

I prefer it to be like the new splash, since if you pull it off correctly it will look more like a league of legends statue rather than a japanese figure wannabe with the previous splash art. I think the new splash art statue is best for this situation. The things I disliked about the statue that you guys first presented was: -Her face was expressionless and had too much eye make-up, making her look like a drug addict -Her neck was a bit too long and creepy -Her face was so small that her hands looked gigantic in comparison -The orb was way to small -The tails were alright looking, but more could've been done.

Wolf4 votes

I have such a great love for the design of Ahri. From her Lore down to her original splash. Please do release her eventually as I freaked out when I saw her getting a statue!! That's awesome you guys are doing that! As far as price goes, it's understandable you want to reach out to a more affordable price, but I'm sure people are willing to work for that extra $50 if need be to get an absolutely ace statue that represents their favourite champion with justice, rather than be happy with a simply good statue that resembles Ahri, but doesn't make you drool over it! The flaws I personally could see, or issues I had with the statue, were not only her face, but her fingers. Her fingers looked way too rounded, she needs longer, more claw-like feminine nails and fingers. Her orb also, I found it to look way too tiny and also too green, in comparison to the in game model. I'm also agreeing with everyone else on here about the tails, that need more fluff! You guys are doing a great great job though! I can not wait to see how she turns out in the end! :D She really is something magical!

Enosetc3 votes

tfw ahri's statue gets thrown into the magma chamber

Kirano3 votes

Thanks for doing some improvements on the Ahri statue. As an Ahri main i really appreciate that you are doing this. About the statue, personally, everything was fine except for the face. I really like how it kinda resembles her design in the cinematic i think it looks great! And as for price, hopefully nothing as expensive as the TwistedFate statue maybe around $100?

Keevalroy12 votes

it kinda resembles her design in the cinematic

That's part of the problem.

ZER0 23 votes

Ahri is how she's SUPPOSED to look in the cinematic. The cinematic is how they would look irl, it's so much better.

TheTenk9 votes

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Ahri is how she's SUPPOSED to look in the cinematic. The cinematic is how they would look irl, it's so much better.

The cinematic gave them all the same sickly anorexic supermodel face, you are in denial.

RicePud3 votes

Ahri I cannot wait for this statue to come out! It's right on top of my Christmas list :)

Tail does need to be** fluffier** though

Nephirelle3 votes

Nice thing. I was also so happy to hear about the figure, but did not like the heavy makeup and her face. Another thing is the figure also looks extremely thin compared to her splash arts and a lot of fan work. I see Ahri as a more curvy type having a bit wider hips, breasts and so on and not looking like Barbie.

A bit like this one:

http://artgerm.deviantart.com/art/Foxy-Ahri-399325683

Maybe you can also have a look on that for the redesign?

JesusPwns09263 votes

Is it ever returning? I show up every couple months to see but it's not around.

I actually enjoyed the first face and would gladly buy one of the originals.

BlackBeltBullets1 votes

wonder if anyody got fired over this. would have cost riot a pretty penny

KatCraft7 votes

It's not some dude sitting in a cubicle that made the decisions that resulted in this mistake. The entire department is responsible. And the final product wasn't so bad that many other companies would of done the shoulder shrug and released it anyway. Riot are choosing to go out of their way for mostly the consumers benefit.

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