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Riot Pls: Ranked Pls - 2017 Season Ranked Changes

Riot·10/4/2016, 11:26:41 PM·18 votes·414,616 views

New001 and ScuttleChris - leads on League of Legends - back again.

A little over a month ago, we announced a number of improvements to ranked while acknowledging that Dynamic Queue hasn't met the needs of many players. Today, we’re ready to talk about what we’re planning for the 2017 season.

Let's start with the biggest news: We're bringing back Solo/Duo Queue for all players.


Solo/Duo Queue

Remember Season 2015's ranked system? It's a lot like that. Queue up alone or with one trusted friend and aim for Gold (or higher). The major differences from 2015 are that you'll be able to select two preferred positions and veto your least favorite (when autofill is enabled or if you choose fill). Challenger tier will also remain solo-only.


Ranked Flex

The Ranked Flex Queue allows up to five players to queue up and compete—a lot like 2016's DQ—and those who climb here will earn unique rewards (and additional flair on their border) at the end of the season. If your premade squad wants a serious, competitive game, this is where you play. Or, if you're a solo player who wants to get good in an environment that rewards more team-oriented skills, the Flex Queue is also there for you. Ranked fives will naturally be merged with this queue, and as a result they'll be available 24/7.

Those who climb to Gold in both Solo/Duo Queue and the Flex Queue will unlock an extra-special end-of-season reward.


How We Got Here

Anyone who followed our ranked changes this year is now probably thinking "so what changed?" For months, we resisted calls to re-release Solo/Duo Queue alongside Dynamic Queue because we believed queue health for both queues would suffer. We also thought we could improve Dynamic Queue enough to satisfy those who feel left out by its design—specifically, those players who really hate playing against premades (or who think premades destroy the integrity of the ranked ladder).

But over the course of the 2016 season, we developed matchmaking and design improvements to Dynamic Queue that have increased our confidence in our ability to support two ranked queues. So now we want to try it out.

Ultimately, there are fundamental, irreconcilable differences between Flex and Solo/Duo Queue beyond their varying rules on premades. Our hope is both queues will thrive by leveraging those differences to attract different types of players. For example, there are certain competencies that Solo/Duo Queue will reward more:

  • The ability to "solo carry" games is rewarded more highly in solo/duo queue. Since far fewer premade players are coming in with coordinated strategies they've practiced ahead of time, there's a bigger emphasis on your ability to win lane and leverage your power across the map.
  • You may be on your own, but you've got to be able to become a leader for a group of strangers. You can't tilt, and you have to be able to adapt on the fly to the idiosyncrasies of your teammates.

The Flex Queue also tests all the skills you've developed while playing solo, but additionally rewards a different set of competencies:

  • In champ select, you've got to focus more on cohesive team comps, and late game communication strategies will likely make the biggest difference between winning and losing teams—a well-coordinated crew with a solid game plan will shine brightest here.
  • This queue will likely develop its own meta that's more focused on early game invades and unexpected, tightly-coordinated rotations.

We think that with unique rewards and a different-feeling environment, players will see the value of the Flex and Solo/Duo Queue, and both will thrive.


But what if we're wrong?

It may be the case that solo or duo players aren't interested in the Flex Queue, and its population—and thus queue times—could suffer as a result. All queues need solo players to survive. It may work in some regions, but not others. If that's the case, we'll turn the Flex Queue into a strict five-man queue, effectively converting it into the old ranked fives queue (minus the roster management restrictions and plus all the algorithmic improvements we developed during the 2016 season).

We always want players to have the ability to play competitively as a group, but we'll give up our dream of a competitive "dynamic" queue if players don't think it's worth their time.

The 2016 ranked season taught us a lot about our game, players, and how Riot can do better. Thanks for sticking with us.

Q&A

  • Will these changes ship only on the client update, or for the legacy client as well?

    These changes will ship to both clients.

  • What about ranked emblems?

    They're gone. Emblems were a band-aid solution, not a permanent fix.

  • What about a way for friends with vastly different ratings play together competitively? Last season's Ranked Teams let us do that.

    Ultimately, we're making a trade-off here, but it's one we're okay with for a few reasons. If you're letting Bronze players queue up alongside Diamond friends, it's nearly impossible for us to create a well-matched game. We've tried it in the past with the Ranked Teams queue, and some players liked it, but queue populations were always incredibly small and match quality was inconsistent. Since we're supporting ranked five-on-five games in the Flex queue, we've got to draw a line here: in our new system, Normals are the best place for low-ranked players to queue up with their highly-ranked friends.

1,138 Comments

z040258110/5/2016, 9:44:31 PM410 votes

Just so I have this correct, Flex Queue can hold any number of people (premade 1 to 5), but Solo/Duo can only have 1 or 2?

If this is the case, can you add an option for those soloers/duoers that don't care which queue they're in? Kind of like how we have primary/secondary role, but give us the option of choosing between Flex Queue, Solo/Duo Queue, and either. I think if you guys did this, queue times would drop for solo/duo queuers.

Caught10/5/2016, 8:06:37 PM364 votes

Holy Moly Thank you Riot

Edenwain10/5/2016, 8:28:58 PM321 votes

Am I seriously the only one who's fine solo queuing in dynamic queue? Call me old fashioned, but I don't mind "socializing" with other people who play together haha. One of my main buds that I queue with these days is actually from a quad-premade that I randomly queued with once. I really hope flex queue does indeed stay haha.

Nalisai10/5/2016, 8:24:23 PM154 votes

Ranked ARAMs next pls thx.

LoveBubbleButts10/5/2016, 8:10:53 PM112 votes

Did riot just admit to there mistakes and are willing to listen? This is the first time in a while I am actually glad of one of your big choices for the ranked system. Thank you Riot! ^_^

OkamiRyu9210/5/2016, 8:19:42 PM86 votes

BRING BACK TEAM BUILDER!!!!

Justín10/5/2016, 9:24:05 PM67 votes

Rank 1 3v3 NA player here.. Is this the end of 3s?

Nokutomi10/5/2016, 8:38:17 PM43 votes

rito i thank you for bringing solo/duo back <3

Bopn10/5/2016, 10:10:31 PM36 votes

Honestly guys the reason I dislike dynamic que is not because of ladder integrity or that I feel disadvantaged.

I dislike dynamic que becuase when you get that 1/20 chance of playing against a 3 man premade, the game is just straight up not fun.

I'm talking about the mid jungle and support camping your blue buff in the bush. Teams camping in the river bush. Friends flaming when they get kills because they are more confident with their buddies. Having 0 communication directed at you when you are the solo with a group of 4.

The problem with dynamic que is that people can be scumbags when they are trying to impress their friends and I quite frankly think they can just all play their ego game in a pen together.

Deep Terror Nami10/5/2016, 8:21:14 PM25 votes

I never minded premades on either team even as a solo-only player, but I'm glad they are doing what Lyte said they were going to do in the first place.

Emblems were a band-aid solution

Eh, what exactly did they solve? They did nothing.

Rengar the Panda10/5/2016, 9:52:16 PM22 votes

And this, folks, is as close as we'll ever get to riot admitting they were wrong (or could have been wrong). TY Riot for finally listening.

Rabid Squirtle10/5/2016, 8:33:16 PM15 votes

This is nice....but it stil doesn't make up for Championship Maokai.....

Mushroom369110/5/2016, 8:30:13 PM10 votes

Here is something I don't understand. In the recent dev blog (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/riot-games/editorial/dev-new001-competition-beyond-ranked) by New001, they state that Riot wants a more competitive atmosphere akin to that of the Riot Rumble. However now you're splitting the player population by setting out two sets of queues with two separate ladders. How can Solo/Duo queue ever achieve this level of competitiveness? And without voice comms, how can flex queue ever attempt to do so if you have 3-2 mans in game or 4-1s? Another point for concern, if up and coming Challenger teams want to practice, but all of the challenger players are playing solo/duo queue, how could they hope to compete?