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Champion insights roundtable: Gangplank

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TLDR: As part of our ongoing commitment to keep League of Legends fresh, we often update champions both visually and in their gameplay. If you followed along with the Bilgewater: Burning Tides event, you know that with Gangplank’s champion update, we went even further. Catch up on the story here, or if you’re already a Bilgewater veteran, dive into a conversation between the devs behind the update below.



How did Gangplank become the biggest champion update since Sion?

Michael “IronStylus” Maurino, senior concept artist: So, there’s this thing called scope creep. But seriously, we needed a lot of buy-in, for one. We were shopping around [Gangplank-related] ideas a lot, whether to teams involved in Bilgewater, stakeholders, all the way up to Marc and Brandon [co-founders of Riot Games].

Scott “Jaredan” Hawkes, narrative lead: Gangplank’s lore was actually quite different from Gangplank in game. In-game, he didn’t seem like the baddest bastard in Bilgewater. He wasn’t convincing, he wasn’t brutal enough to rule it. So, that meant finding that essence in the stories that had been told about Gangplank, because in a city full of people you don’t want to meet in a dark alley, he’s the guy they don’t want to meet in a dark alley.



Because in a city full of people you don’t want to meet in a dark alley, he’s the guy they don’t want to meet in a dark alley.


James “Statikk” Bach, champion designer: I think one of the bigger challenges was that the character, you just couldn’t take him seriously, he was too over-the-top. And if we wanted him to be a serious character, we had to show, “this guy is a badass,” we had to go to an extreme.

George Krstic, senior writer: Multiple teams, multiple dependencies, and the nature of an international release. From the moment we started to what we landed on, things changed drastically. But all for the better. It’s one of the things I like most about Riot. We have flexibility here. If something isn’t working and needs to change, people will support you. So, everything changed, every day, all the time. So that was a challenge, but it kept us energized.


What was behind the decision to basically make two champion updates for Gangplank?

Michael Maurino: So we had all of these crazy ideas, but we couldn’t really execute on them. And then as we heard the story come along, and the event being potentially a couple of pieces including a before and after scenario, we went, “hmmm…” and then we learned that we were gonna scope up into a much bigger visual update. So we thought, instead of banging our heads trying to make one Gangplank that covers all of the things we want to cover, why not just make two Gangplanks? One for before the narrative and one for after?

Scott Hawkes: The biggest narrative goal for the Bilgewater event was to show characters and a place changing. So everything that happens to him shows the same man experiencing the high and the low, and having that reflected visually by the art was huge, because it’s not just who he is, but also shows how he’s changed.



Instead of banging our heads trying to make one Gangplank that covers all of the things we want to cover, why not just make two Gangplanks? One for before the narrative and one for after?


In the explosion of the Dead Pool, Gangplank ends up losing his arm. Why’d we do that?

Scott: He’s going through his own trial by fire. He had to change physically. This is the most extreme trial by fire he’s been through, perhaps since he killed his own father. And so he can’t just walk away, there has to be a physical toll in addition to an emotional one.

George: To speak to that, this is also partly a response to feedback from players that nothing ever changes. We wanted to meaningfully change champions and a faction. We wanted to set things up and pay them off in a single self-contained story.


Statikk mentioned the great hat conspiracy of 2015?

Michael Maurino: I didn’t even want to bring it up, but...it’s kinda interesting, because it basically divided the company. We started out: obviously he has to have a hat, right? But then we decided to do “Pre-plank” and “Post-plank,” and somebody drew “Post-plank” without a hat. I remember a meeting with the biggest stakeholders in the company, and the room was split. Some executive stakeholders were like, “Hat!” And the others were like, “No hat!” Then someone said, “Let’s be bold and not ship a hat,” which was immediately met by, “No, let’s be bold and keep the hat!”

James Bach: I remember everyone in design was like, “He’s gotta keep the hat, he’s not Gangplank without the hat.” And then all the artists were like, “But look how cool he looks without a hat.” And we had to admit, he looked good without the hat. It just became this huge thing.

Michael Maurino: I remember meetings specifically about the hat. They’re still on my calendar somewhere.

Scott Hawkes: From a narrative perspective, some of us said, “Well, he’s a changed person and he’s lost his ship, maybe he doesn’t give a shit about the hat right now.”

George Krstic: At the core, it’s because everybody cares so damn much. That’s the reason we have these meetings that get so tense. Luckily, we work at a place where we’re not ever like, “Okay, good enough, ship it.” It’s instead, “No, let’s beat it up, let’s make the best thing possible.” So that’s why we have meetings about hats.



Was there anything we knew we weren’t going to change?

Michael Maurino: Oranges.

James Bach: Even on the gameplay side, everyone knew oranges were gonna stay. Even when we were like, let’s make him really, really, dark, he still had oranges. There were small things, at least on the design side, where we were like, we want to make sure that people understand that he’s still having fun up there in top lane--like keeping his laugh during his ultimate.

Michael Maurino: B-arrr-els.

James Bach: He still enjoys vitamin C and violence.

Michael Maurino: It’s the darker shade of fun. It is absurd for the guy to do the juggling thing with the oranges, and then slice throats with a flaming sword, but it’s great contrast and it’s kinda neat.



We’re nodding backwards but looking forwards.


George Krstic: When it comes to what we decided to keep the same, we were very mindful of what the important things were to players. Across the board. Every team. We were nodding backwards but looking forwards. We wanted something for new players to discover, and for old players to say, “Yeah, they got it.” So...that’s what we aimed for, we’ll see if we were successful.



Can’t get enough of the Gangplank dev insights roundtable? [Check out a longer, unabridged version here.] Bilgewater: Burning Tides may be over, but the Saltwater Scourge lives on. Is one-hitting minions something you wish? Let us know in the comments below and we’ll see you on the battlefields.

416 Comments

Anselwithmac115 votes

Gangplank Anyone think its funny how Gankplank went from a goofball champion to a die-hard torturer champion with crazy armor and stuff?

CasterGilgamesh35 votes

because he was boring being a goofball and we already have the yordles

Shroom Junkie24 votes

no this is our big goofball HE WAS OUR BIG GOOFBALL AND THEY RUINED HIMMMM {Tie9owtjaui;pHGrui23gh5bioehaioHIOR boom

CasterGilgamesh5 votes

well i understand if you are upset over that but a pirate is really isnt meant to be a goof ball unless it's in the movies or cartoons XD i will admit i did like some parts from gps old quotes and i did like his old look but his new look makes him a total badass he's that person you really don't want to with

GhastlyPompano164 votes

He was meant to be our pirate that didn't do anything. He just kinda stayed at home, and lied around. If you asked him to do anything. He'd just tell you, "I don't don't do anything" WEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL He's never been to Greenland and he's never been to Denver and he's never buried treasure in ST Louie or ST Paul and he's never been to Moscow and he's never been to Tampa and he's never been to Boston in the fall

he arrrr the pirate who doesn't do anything he just stays at home, and lies around and if you ask him, to do anything he'll just tell you, he doesn't do anything

and he's never hoist the main sail and he's never swabbed the poop deck and he's never veered starboard, cause he's never sailed at all and he's never walked the GANGPLANK and he's never owned a parrot. and he's never been to Boston in the fall

he is the pirate who doesn't do anything he just stays at home, and lies around and if you ask him, to do anything he'll just tell you, he doesn't do anything

He's never plucked a rooster and he is not too good at ping-pong and he's never thrown his mashed potatoes up against the wall and he's never kissed a chipmunk, and he's never gotten head lice and he has never been to Boston in the fall

(pirate captains log 2015 who be this band relient K and why they be so full of contradictions)

he doesn't know what he did but he's down with captain kidd he doesn't wake up before lunch but he eats all the captain crunch he doesn't smoke, he doesn't chew he watches captain kangaroo

and he's never licked a spark-plug and he's never sniffed a stink bug and he's never painted Daisies on a big red rubber ball and he's never bathed in yogurt and he doesn't look good in leggings and he's never been to Boston in the fall

he ARR the pirate who doesn't do anything he just stays at home, and lies around and if you ask him, to do anything he'll just tell you, he doesn't do anything

he is the pirate who doesn't do anything he just stays at home, and lies around and if you ask him, to do anything he'll just tell you, he doesn't do anything

Cericus10 votes

@GhastlyPompano This, even tho the lyrics were bad, the fact its a parody of the song makes it, K.

EvillHamster5 votes

When did we start singing veggie tails, not reliant K whoever told you that.

Dark Wristband21 votes

A hundred points to GhastlyPompano for that amazing reference!

Rihanna Fenty15 votes

@GhastlyPompano That. VeggieTale. Life. Just made my day.

DaveFamous23 votes

he was literally a disney pirate stereotype before

PT Waluigi3 votes

I kinda like it this way. Because now he's more then a stereotype. I heard of Pirates with hooks but not with robot arm...ok there was that one disney movie but still. I like that they fledged him out more then "Well we got a pirate in our game! Lunch break everyone"

TheXthDoctor29 votes

Treasure Planet was great.

PT Waluigi10 votes

IT WAS! Wasn't it?

thejordanchoi56 votes

Gankplank gets barrels but Graves can't have a cigar?

Blessthefall1 votes

Mafia graves has one in his splash :o

yurkoon10 votes

thats a tooth pick :I

baconman14832 votes

why do you care he probably quit tobaco

TheFirstGokun44 votes

Good for him. Stay above the influence kids. Don't let tobacco control you. Yep yep, good message.

Cericus5 votes

does some tobacco after finishing speech

JustMomentai8 votes

I don't know what's funnier the fact that it probably actually happened or that you said "does tobacco"

The Eight Gates21 votes

Gragas is still smoking a damn cig in his fancy skin, mundo has roids in almost all of his skins, and teemo does acid/shrooms.eve is a whore and most of the women are very sexualized, but graves can't smoke a damn cigar...

lightdragoon8840 votes

K.

Deep Terror Nami14 votes

That was your most heartwarming speech yet. Bravo.

Rozzeta22 votes

The greatest question of our era: Why Gangplank moves forward yet Miss Fortune remains the same?

Phyl22 votes

Shouldn't Graves get a new gun? I mean, the new lore says he lost it and since gangplank changed from the lore...

AvaBee9 votes

Well now graves cant have a new gun OR a cigar. All that's left is a mustache and a poncho

Beybladers16 votes

well Gangplank looks like a monkey now :P just look at him!! MonkeyKing Gangplank MonkeyKing

flashhamster4 votes

you sure are amazingBlitzcrank

Lich Bane Sona22 votes

Looks the same to me. LeeSin I'm not sorry.

Venteus15 votes

I think Gangplank should have his hat tied somewhere around his waist, simply as an homage to the original design as if to say, "This hat is retired."

Legocard13 votes

Seeing this champion evolve with the story was one of the coolest things ever, but... if the Dead Pool was destroyed, did GP literally spend all his recovery time gathering infinite oranges.

Miss Luxanna7 votes

Of course, oranges are k.

Kasy4 votes

Eat a orange be K

Ikikaea12 votes

Why does he have to be half naked though? Why did he suddenly get a lot chubbier? Why couldn't you change the story to make him more lighthearted to fit his in game character instead of vice versa? Pretty sure most people like corny Gangplank better. Wasn't the whole point of saying fuck you to the old lore so that you could separate the game from the lore?

Also lol at the meetings about hats... Guess that's why Valve can do more than double the work you guys do with half the resources. And guess what, people are happier with Dota2 than LoL.

Støked23 votes

you make me sad

Ikikaea6 votes

Why? What did I say that was untrue? I have over 400 games on Gangplank. He was my favorite champ. But go ahead, please tell me how ignorant I am when almost none of these commenters ever played him.

Rozzeta19 votes

Well, more than half the content of your message is just speculations.

Rozzeta36 votes

Can't reply to you directly, so:

  • Half Naked confirmed.
  • He is most resembling a strongman contestant than a fat guy.
  • His story remains the same as before. He murdered his father in both, and his first splash art had one of his eyes glow red, which made sense with MF's story. You're assuming most people liked his jolly charater more.
  • The divorce confirmed, though they actually meant that they wouldn't need to find a reason for every new champ to join the league.
  • Valve only copied DOTA with better Graphics, and only then they started with new stuff. Also Valve already had an infrastructure and the profits from other sources, while Riot is kind of new in comparison and only has LoL. You're also assuming you know about the infrastructure, amount of people in total and total teams dedicated to each project for each company.
Invest in Stonks7 votes

This is to the ignorant and totally biased Ikikaea who is literally bitching about the quality of a whole game because his favorite champion was reworked.

(Yeah, shame on them for being innovative and inducing changes to game mechanics. grrrrr.)

Im sorry, but Valve is Valve. They can literally invest any amount of money they want to into a game meanwhile Riot has to deal with what it is given. Valve does NOT use only a game's revenue to improve it, cause that would be foolish.

And they didnt say they were divorcing the game from the lore, they said they were scrapping the different points of view of the game lore and the concept of "Summoners" was shattered. In short, they stopped breaking the 4th wall. That was literally the only thing they got rid of.

If youre going to be a unnecessarily pissed off fanboy idiot spewing speculation, be a REASONABLY pissed off fanboy idiot spewing speculation.

THE KILLER GUY21 votes

I'm going to reply in the same format because it looks fun: -Half naked: who gives a shit? Have you read Gangplank's lore? He lost a fucking arm. He's meant to look more scary and hardened than he was before. Maybe he's a little less concerned with clothing than his corny counterpart was. On another note: Have you fucking seen tryndamere?

  • He's LARGER. He's a PIRATE CAPTAIN. Are you telling us that pirate captains, or even pirates in general, traditionally have skinny and toned body types?

  • There was nothing wrong with his story in the first place, but they did expand on it with the bilgewater lore that also involved Graves and TF.

  • Riot's intention for divorcing the lore with the game was so that they didn't need to search for an excuse for each and every champion to join the league which, in turn, improves the potential for the lore dramatically.

  • You have no idea how many people are working on Dota 2 or how many people are working on LoL. That is pure speculation. There is, however, a very good chance that Valve has more resources. They must have more resources for the simple fact that they develop/have developed more games than Riot does, and have more experience/seniority in the industry. Riot most likely does make more money on LoL than Valve does on Dota2, but you are completely ignoring how much more money Riot invests in the LoL professional scene than Valve does for Dota 2. For starters, all Dota 2 tournament winnings are donations from outside sources, namely their fanbase. Riot also gives each LCS team a large sum of money each year so that they can support themselves and focus their lives on gaming. It's more than likely that not even a tenth of Riot's earnings go into LoL's lore; but I digress.

  • Saying that Dota 2 fans are happier with their game than LoL fans are with theirs is pure speculation. There are no statistics that can give a sure answer to either side. However, if you look at the professional scene alone, look at how much larger LoL's World Championship stage is than Dota's The International stage is. Dota 2's 2015 International Championship stage is still significantly smaller than LoL's second ever World Championship stage, and let's not forget that we're talking about the Second Dota. The original Dota had nothing like LoL's world championship, and the prizes were about as small as the number of fans that showed up, or even still the number of fans that show up to Dota 2's International.

THE KILLER GUY18 votes

Meanwhile, Riot holds the first, second, and third records for the most watched events in esports history. I think that says a lot about which game fans enjoy more.

Spartanstorm214 votes

I think it's safe to say that you just rekt that guy.

Final Boss Naut3 votes

saving this post in a doc to use for when dota fanbois attack\

You have no idea how many people are working on Dota 2 or how many people are working on LoL. That is pure speculation. There is, however, a very good chance that Valve has more resources. They must have more resources for the simple fact that they develop/have developed more games than Riot does, and have more experience/seniority in the industry. Riot most likely does make more money on LoL than Valve does on Dota2, but you are completely ignoring how much more money Riot invests in the LoL professional scene than Valve does for Dota 2. For starters, all Dota 2 tournament winnings are donations from outside sources, namely their fanbase. Riot also gives each LCS team a large sum of money each year so that they can support themselves and focus their lives on gaming. It's more than likely that not even a tenth of Riot's earnings go into LoL's lore; but I digress.

Saying that Dota 2 fans are happier with their game than LoL fans are with theirs is pure speculation. There are no statistics that can give a sure answer to either side. However, if you look at the professional scene alone, look at how much larger LoL's World Championship stage is than Dota's The International stage is. Dota 2's 2015 International Championship stage is still significantly smaller than LoL's second ever World Championship stage, and let's not forget that we're talking about the Second Dota. The original Dota had nothing like LoL's world championship, and the prizes were about as small as the number of fans that showed up, or even still the number of fans that show up to Dota 2's International.

300Spartans1cup44 votes

Yup. Valve is doing great work pushing out Half Life 3.

Ikikaea8 votes

Because Half-Life 3 has anything to do with this... I don't even play Dota2, but I can see all the things Valve does better, because I'm not a fanboy.

Charles Corday84 votes

My popcorn is too salty.

Justin35810 votes

@gladiator10398

Joke-------------> Your head \O/

FIagAndDrag8 votes

you know people who aren't bodybuilders and work for strength not muscle shredding look fat because their muscles make them look like they have a fat body right? if you don't believe me try it out on yourself gangplank is a really muscly guy. Fact

MonoclePenguin8 votes

the term is "Barrel Chested".

Witchblade8 votes

MissFortune gave this guy the dirt nap he deserved, didn't she? Sleeping with the Fizz Nami .

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