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Camille is available NOW.
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Get the Program Camille Bundle for 1837 RP.
Scary Door8 votesI can't wait to go into a ranked game and have someone on my team feed with her as "support'.
yung niga singed6 votesThat's why I'm perma banning her every chance I get, doesn't matter if they're first pick on my team and have it 100% secured, I don't care.
Killette212 votesI thought this game was about having fun with your team and trying new things :/
Alphadios3 votesnot in ranked, people like you should stay in bronze
Roger Murtaugh10 votes@Alphadios your closed-mindedness is disturbing, "people like you"? CLASSIC...
Alphadios1 votesApparently people get offended at the thought of someone raging over a person trying a totally new champ in ranked lol
yung niga singed1 votesWell, don't play draft or ranked then, I can't ban your champ in blind pick. People don't understand how busted this champ is. I played her a few times and it's too easy to carry with.
Roger Murtaugh4 votes@Killette2 It's good to see that the spirits of sportsmanship, and decency have not completely left this community.
Nelaerynn1 votes
Roger Murtaugh5 votes@Azal The appropriate term for your attitude, could be used to adequately describe french-fries AND/OR a pretzel.
Roger Murtaugh3 votes@Scary Door You mean like this? http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2370884924/51403436
Scary Door2 votes[{quoted}](name=Roger Murtaugh,realm=NA,application-id=Ag8jgd8Q,discussion-id=aZp9911J,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2016-12-12T18:02:24.694+0000)
@Scary Door You mean like this? http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2370884924/51403436
I'd ask what Elo that is, but based on the 1/14 Soraka and the 9/18 Heimer that built gunblade, I'm pretty sure I know the answer.
Nevertheless, congrats on the win! <3
Roger Murtaugh2 votesIt's true that it was in a garbage division, but let's not pretend there were no real obstacles to contend with. Fiddlesticks and Sona did their fair share of defecating where they ate
PaladinNO6 votesI love how people downvote without getting the whole story...
Exactly what is the 1270 RP Camille bundle...?
Camille, the Steel Shadow, available now By Cactopus
Get the Program Camille Bundle for 1270 RP.
-33 minutes ago
You've been lying again? I expect you lot to come good on your statements. Not just change your written words at own leisure.
Same shit happened with Vel'Koz on his release. No money back there. Same thing with Yasuo under the PROJECT event. Support admits there were mistakes done with the pricing, but I got NO, NADA, 0 RP back!! That's called "fraud"...
So what CAN I get for my 1270 RP? Because I only see something costing 975 RP (champion), 1350 RP (release skin), or 1837 RP (release bundle).
If I decide to buy the bundle for 1837 RP, I expect your Support to reimburse me the extra expense. Not my problem your..."Cactopus" can't double-check his/her numbers.
EDIT: Okay, so the pricing is now changed to 1837 RP on EUNE as well.
Funny, that's not what my screenshot said initially... https://1drv.ms/i/s!AuFMZD__7mN2gV6Y8q4htCeA6ejk
I Am LeJhindary6 votes...why? "..If I decide to buy..." well you decided to buy it. Why would they reimburse you anything. Also why would you expect it, if something similar has happened in the past.
Truly with children like you around it is astounding that the League community isn't more cancerous.
PaladinNO7 votesAh, but did I buy the Camille bundle? Here's a flash for you: no, I haven't yet. I asked "what if I did?" based on already made official pricing statements - would they stand by their words this time? Are you telling me I am not entitled to ask clarification on a public statement, despite phrased harshly on my part based off previous negative experiences?
And "why" would they reimburse me? Because they would've charged more than they said they would. Initial statement said exactly what I wrote above: 1270 RP (I got a screenshot). I can upload that screenshot so you can see for yourself, but I suspect you would just ignore it...
Yes, I noticed the pricing was accurate in the news page on other servers, and yes, I knew 1270 RP wouldn't be right (knew it should be 1837), but is that an excuse to not stand by their words? A pricing statement is a promise. ESPECIALLY a written one!
Now please stop jumping to conclusions all randomly. Because you will be wrong on occasion. And "toxic"? When I got facts to back up my every statement? That's a rather offensive false accusation.
And am I wrong? They said exactly what I quoted. There's a difference between telling the truth about unfair treatment and being toxic (the latter usually not using facts) - you get THAT in your head!
Roger Murtaugh3 votes@PaladinNO I agree, when real life money is involved. They should be held accountable for their mistakes.
PaladinNO4 votes...when real life money is involved. They should be held accountable for their mistakes.
Thank you! That's all I wanted to get across to them.
Yes, I know I wrote the above as an angry rant (because it was), but I don't know how to get them to take responsibility.
As for the pricing: https://1drv.ms/i/s!AuFMZD__7mN2gV6Y8q4htCeA6ejk
Soul Blade1 votesIn the retail store where I work, we put up printed signs auto-generated from corporate, which sometimes, are in error (gasp!).
We also have an alerts page, where, when corporate learns of any mistakes, they generate a new sign to put up, and an apology sign to display on the checkout counter.
-- Basically, if they purchased BEFORE the mistake was found, they get the originally advertised, incorrect pricing as an adjustment on their purchase.
-- However, any customer purchasing AFTER the apology is posted, have full notification that the price was an error, and can now see the correct pricing, and have no entitlement to the mistaken price.
I am just as much wanting a cheaper price for the bundle as any, see below, but haggling with an error that is already fixed is pointless.
P.S.(1800+ for a bundle, that is not even 1/2 off the skin?! It doesn't even include a cheesy worthless launch icon or border that I would still be suckered into coughLuxcough... I will just buy the champ with IP, and wait for the 975 early sale and get basically the same deal, but better. . .)
PaladinNO2 votes-- Basically, if they purchased BEFORE the mistake was found, they get the originally advertised, incorrect pricing as an adjustment on their purchase.
-- However, any customer purchasing AFTER the apology is posted, have full notification that the price was an error, and can now see the correct pricing, and have no entitlement to the mistaken price.
THAT I have no problem with! If I bought anything after the price was changed or any notification was posted, then I will just have to suck it up (aka "be reasonable").
But if I bought it before the correct price was displayed, then I'd stand firm and let the store take that extra cost.
HOWEVER...that's not how Riot Games operate. Two things: Vel'Koz release: release skin: Battlecast Vel'Koz. Skin cost: 975 RP (was back when they were still doing promotional sales on 1350 skins). Price in the store on release (when I buy it): 1350 RP. Price in the store less than 1 hour after I buy it: 975 RP. _They refused to even _acknowledge a 1350 RP skin would be getting a promotional sale. Support ID: #10738026
Riot support: "so solly, it be plicing ellol mistake but you no can has monies back" Was pretty much what they said as far as I'm concerned.
Second time: PROJECT: Alpha bundle (Yi, Zed, Fiora, Lucian and Leona). Yasuo was also on sale separately (675 RP), but as I figured it couldn't be cheaper than 50% off in the bundle (though I couldn't figure out what was wrong with the bundle cost), I bought PROJECT: Yasuo first, and then went on to the bundle.
...And after buying PROJECT: Yasuo, I see why my numbers didn't add up. It WAS 50% off 50% in the bundle. So I contact Support again. And guess what? Nope, while they admitted their mistake again, I didn't get a single RP back. Support ID: #18709742
On the latter case:
My ticket (excerpt):
There seems to have been an issue with the cost of the PROJECT bundle - even after doing some math before making the purchase, I didn't understand the 7222 RP pricetag. 1820 RP for PROJECT Yi 1350 RP each for Fiora, Zed, Lucian and Leona, totalling 7220 RP 1 RP each for the ward skin and icon (2 RP) All in, 7222 RP.
However, the issue is PROJECT: Yasuo. The bundle was 7559 RP before I unlocked that skin separately, and it was only after I paid the 675 RP for PROJECT Yasuo + the 7222 RP for the bundle that I understood PROJECT: Yasuo had to be priced at only ~377 RP in the bundle, a fact that I was unable to find mentioned anywhere.
Reply (excerpt):
We're aware of a visual error that displayed the price difference in the bundle incorrectly.
TL;DR: Even if I bought the bundle for the 1837 RP, took the screenshot from the news page where it said it would be 1270 RP (before it was changed), I GUARANTEE you I wouldn't have been getting anything back!
I Am LeJhindary2 votesI bought her but she is still disabled. At least in custom games.
I Am LeJhindary1 votesEdit: It seems like perhaps I need to relaunch my client, is all. People in my ranked lobby picking and banning her with no problem, even though she still says "Temporarily Disabled" on my own.
Lord Zenith1 votesI was actually having that same problem just now, did restarting the client actually work for you? I haven't tried it yet.
Xeranis Azourael2 votes
's old, pre-rework Ultimate was removed from the game, for being unhealthy, ...
Camille as her new Ultimate. Wut?
(You can't say Camille's ultimate isn't a modified form of Poppy's old ultimate; it's so glaringly apparent.)
How come couldn't just get her (now modified) Ultimate back? =/ =(
Is it cause of dissonant playstyle? Thematics?
DukeTorus9 votesThe differences between the ults are so huge that I wouldn't compare them myself.
Camille is in no way immune to damage from anyone but the person she ulted the way Poppy was.
Poppy's target could run anywhere and wasn't stuck in the little arena.
Camille's ultimate gets cancelled as soon as she leaves the arena, Poppy's was un-cancellable.
There is a lot of counter play available to the ult target's teammates, whereas there wasn't really any with Poppy's ult.
Roger Murtaugh4 votesIt's important to acknowledge the differences, and you did a fine job of that. Thank you for your time, and enlightenment.
Xeranis Azourael1 votesI believe I did say MODIFIED three times; TWICE, in parentheses. I'm aware of the differences, but the fact that you (& many others) don't see the apparent similarities - the essence of the ability itself - just baffles me. Though I'm pretty sure you all experienced it yourselves, shortly after having experienced her Ult for yourself and how oppressive it still turned out to be (before Riot had to step in & re-balance things), counter-play or not. And at how many people cried at how "oppressive" her Ult was (when it really wasn't - #GitGud).
Hmh.. I turned out to be right anyway.
DukeTorus1 votesWhen you "modify" something in nearly every way conceivable, you really end up creating something new. Camille's ult is as similar to Zed's (he's briefly un-targetable and is focused on killing one champ) or Fiora's (single target picked out of the fight) as it is to Poppy's old ult.
You have no evidence that I cried about how "oppressive" Camille's ult was, so stereotyping me and adding #lame_hashtags is pretty silly.
You sound quite upset that I would dare disagree with you. Relax man, it's a conversation about video game abilities.
Xeranis Azourael1 votesI believe I also said essence. Fiora & Zed's ults are also single-target like old Poppy's & Camille's, but they don't carry the same essence that Poppy's old ult did, which now lives on in Camille's ult.
I didn't want to have to do a flipping Venn-Diagram, but here goes:
Diplomatic Immunity & Hextech Ultimatum:
(0.o) I never said that you cried about how 'oppressive' Camille's ult was. I said people. Maybe try reading that again, slower, this time. You know, for better reading comprehension.
And I'm not upset that you disagreed with me. I'm upset that you: 1.) honed in on the wrong thing, 2.) basically derailed my comment, and 3.) went off-topic, discussing the Ult differences.
The fact that you didn't read my comment carefully enough (most likely just skimmed through it) & assumed that I was lumping you in with said 'people', is: 1.) my second point in case (the first being your derailing my initial comment), and 2.) just proves you never understood the direction I intended to go in my initial comment in the first place, as expressed in my final two questions at the end - I was talking about their similarities and basically how Riot could've just preserved Poppy's old Ult & made it healthier (a la Camille's current ult), rather than replacing it with something entirely new - which was my actual point; and you completely went off-topic discussing their differences.
DukeTorus1 votesI read all of your comments in great detail (hence why I commented about so many points from all of your comments), but there were enough distracting points that the thought you care about got lost. The whole thread is about Camille, not Poppy, so pardon me for thinking this was a discussion about "Camille's ult being similar to Poppy's old ult" and not about "why did Poppy's old ult get removed if it's so similar to other ults (specifically Camille's) still in the game?" You have to admit that's a subtle difference.
If we're discussing which ults are similar to one another, it's clear that Camille, Zed, Fiora, and Poppy are all useful comparisons. If we're strictly talking about Poppy's old ult, then I can see why you thought I was trying to derail things (which I wasn't).
Please don't do the "Maybe try reading that again, slower, this time. You know, for better reading comprehension." There are two things wrong with that: 1) Including language directed at a general audience in a reply to a specific person can imply that the general comments are directed at that specific individual 2) That sentence makes you sound like a condescending ass, rather than someone with a strongly held opinion trying to clarify what they meant. I'm going to assume the latter because I like to assume the best about people, but I still don't like being talked to that way.
So, let's have a truce and talk about what you meant in the first place: Poppy's old ult. My guess is it didn't jive with the role and play style Riot wanted her to have. I think they want the new Poppy to be more of a tank/disruptor than a when-ult-is-up-kill-everyone-build-damage champ.
midnight oil241 votesI'm interested in what camille means for both major lores, both the regular one and the project lore. Sure, she's a game changer in the regular lore because she shows a dark side to piltover we'd never seen before, but her program skin also changes a lot of things. Especially her line to project Lucian, "She was an easy target." Camille may have been the reason Lucian became a project soldier. She changes everything in both her appearances.
Topazium1 votesI kinda disagree with you that we've never seen that darker side to Piltover.. sure, there's the new aspect of an assassin working for his/her clan, but looking at Vi's story, and the recent story about apprenta in Piltover, we've been given quite a few looks at how difficult it can actually be.
midnight oil241 votesBut those are both new lore stories. The old lore, which was all we had until recently, depicts Piltover as a generic inventor's mecca place. It was boring compared to zaun. While it's still less interesting than Zaun, giving piltover this new twist with the intellegencers and the brackern stones shows it as a darker place than previously let on.
allblacks1 votesCamille bio: http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Lin_Beifong
stellarLuminant1 voteswho needs arms... when you have legs like THESE
OverLordsShadow1 votesis it just me or does anyone else think with on the rift 
will lack luster now?
Azurumi Shinji2 votesThey make for a great comparison, very alike they are. Jarvan still has some perks. He has more tankyness I think, his mobility doesn't need a wall, and he also is more supportive to his teammates. But cas gets better damage, harder CC and strong situational and single target skills. There roughly equal I think.
OverLordsShadow1 votesyou have a good point. i just hope she dosnt out shine j4. i like him, i just don't see him enough as it is now XD
