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PBE Livestream: Xayah and Rakan

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Join designers Beat PunchBeef and EndlessPillows at 2 PM Pacific on April 4, 2017 as they answer your questions about Xayah and Rakan, the Rebel and the Charmer, and show off their PBE gameplay!

Here a bit early? Leave your questions in the comments below so we can answer them on stream!


You can also watch the stream directly or check out past VODs on the League Twitch channel.

78 Comments

Iced Bubble Tea 8 votes

What inspired you guys to make such a synchronized duo champions? Are there special lines for when they are enemies?

Kappa8 votes

Dang new Hidden Passive "Enemy teams ADC forever has a gray screen"

Frost Zealot5 votes

I'm confused - are these 2 champs still completely separate? Like will I have to purchase them separately and have someone else I know play the other one to synergize with me?

Vali Odynson7 votes

Two champs are being released.

Reaper85122 votes

2 champs, and they just have really good synergy if they happen to be in the same game.

Kshaway3 votes

As far as I know, they are 2 separate champions that CAN be played with out the other. They probably just have added bonuses together, making it better if you DO play them together.

TwixBean3 votes

Yup, for example: Rakan the boy his E's range will be increased if he uses it on Xayah. And Xayah's W's ability effect will also affect Rakan if he is nearby, so they can be played seperatly but they will do better if they are together

TEEMOcalypse5 votes

With this new and swanky bit of lore i haz 2 questions:

  1. Is Ahri a Vastayan? Possibly an ancient one, since AFAIK theres no real indication of how long ago Ahri gained human form?
  2. Is Rengar a Vastayan? That pompous Piltovan asshat who wrote the journal mentioned seeing several breeds of Vastayans
Pie R Squared 2 votes

i am pretty sure in her original lore ahri was a fox that really wanted to be human, and something magical granted her wish(or something similar to that) and I actually think rengar maybe, he was found in the jungle as a cub by a hunter.

Hungry Cancer1 votes

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i am pretty sure in her original lore ahri was a fox that really wanted to be human, and something magical granted her wish(or something similar to that) and I actually think rengar maybe, he was found in the jungle as a cub by a hunter.

In the original Lore Ahri was a fox transformed by a dying sorceress in pretty much the same way as Zyra was a plant transformed into a humanoid by eating a dying sorceress.

Delorei1 votes

In the Universe they said that Ahri is probably a Vastayan, and yes, and ancient one, confirmed by another Vastayan creature. Rengar is not. And Vastayans are from Ionia, so they are actually little known except for Ionian people

Psyrix1 votes

Xayah told Rengar: "Rengar, I dont want to spill Vastayan blood" So it's possible he is vastayan

Hungry Cancer1 votes

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In the Universe they said that Ahri is probably a Vastayan, and yes, and ancient one, confirmed by another Vastayan creature. Rengar is not. And Vastayans are from Ionia, so they are actually little known except for Ionian people

It specifically states in the new Vastayan story that there are Vastayans in both the Freljord and Shurima, they just aren't as common there.

"Over time, the offspring of these pairings settled into a variety of regions and therefore adopted diverse forms, from the winged humanoids of Ionia or the sporadically-limbed sandshufflers of Shurima, to the Freljordian scaled manatee with a look of perpetual discomfort on its face."

ChiliHotFries3 votes

Did you take inspiration from Ahri when making xayah? Also her kit looks more like a ranged assassin mid don't you think? In all realness she looks dope :D

Also what do you think their ip and rp prices will be?

Vali Odynson2 votes

She doesn't have the required get out that an assassin needs.

Seíshín3 votes

What Is The Best Build For Xayah And What Do There Release Day Skins Look Like?

EdwardKenway3 votes

Do they comer together for 7500 IP or each one sold separately for 7500 IP?

rensational3 votes

First, what was the inspiration behind these champions kits? How long have they been in development? Did it take you a long time to balance them? And finally, will we see anymore Vastayan champions in the future?

Ye Ole E Money2 votes

Can Xayah's ult let her wallhop?

ShadowCat72 votes

For Xayah -- crit, lethality, or a bit of both? For Rakan -- possibly jungler or top laner?

Hungry Cancer2 votes

Rakan is a support. lol He has quite a bit of heal and shields, and some CC but very little damage, they suggested building tanky with ancient coin.

ShadowCat71 votes

Tahm Kench is a support. lol But when he came out they said he could be a top laner as well.

Hungry Cancer1 votes

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Tahm Kench is a support. lol But when he came out they said he could be a top laner as well.

Tahm was designed as a top laner though and became a support just before his release because the playtest team started playing him support and loved it, but he was initially designed as a top laner, not a support.

Hungry Cancer1 votes

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For Xayah -- crit, lethality, or a bit of both? For Rakan -- possibly jungler or top laner?

From what I've seen on PBE, Xayah was balanced to use Crit specifically so she's a bit weak with lethality, all of her damage scales with crit. Rakan is pretty much only viable as a support, he has no wave clear or camp clear potential whatsoever, most of his power is synced into mobility and shielding/healing. He kinda reminds me of a mobile Taric almost in that he is almost entirely reliant on having an ally with him.

KnifeSlay3r5622 votes

These champions look good and fun, but from a game play perspective, it sets an odd precedent that champions can get stat/ability bonuses for working with specific champions. Won't this make it harder to balance them if they are stronger together?

Hungry Cancer1 votes

Kha'Zix gets a bonus for killing Rengar, and Rengar a bonus for killing KZ this isn't that much different.

KnifeSlay3r5621 votes

My main concern is that if they are balanced to play against when they are together, will they be a weaker pick individually or if they are balanced individually will they be too strong together? Rengar and Kha'Zix are a good parallel but choosing Rengar to Kha'Zix gives both a chance of a stronger snowball and less chance if either isn't played against the other. I don't see the advantage there is for the ally team to not pick one without the other except a synergy with another champion, but riot will automatically make the pair synergize well right?

Hungry Cancer1 votes

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My main concern is that if they are balanced to play against when they are together, will they be a weaker pick individually or if they are balanced individually will they be too strong together? Rengar and Kha'Zix are a good parallel but choosing Rengar to Kha'Zix gives both a chance of a stronger snowball and less chance if either isn't played against the other. I don't see the advantage there is for the ally team to not pick one without the other except a synergy with another champion, but riot will automatically make the pair synergize well right?

They've already answered this on the stream but I'll paraphrase a bit for you: They set out with the intention of matching these two up kinda like Braum and Lucian or Kog'Maw and Lulu, they work amazingly well together and have some cool synergies but they specifically intended them to work well with other duo partners, for example Rakan is great with Kalista because she can throw him and Xayah is good with Thresh just from the gameplay that I have already seen. They want people to be able to main either champ in solo queue without being disappointed or screwed if they don't get their match to duo with, but to still be obviously stronger with that pairing compared to other pairings, for example Xayah and Rakan will be a better pairing than Xayah and Braum but Xayah and Braum will not be an inherently weak pairing it'll just have certain tradeoffs. I hope that answers your questions, so far I'm stoked about Rakan, I'm a support main and this is the kind of support I've been waiting for. lol

Halfrican82 votes

Did any one else notice they have done of each others feathers on their shoulders? Xayan has Rakan's on her right and Rakan has a few on of Xayan's on his left, each opposite of of where they typically have their own feathers hanging.

natethegreat6882 votes

will they be available as a package? What are the limits of their recall if any? Do they have more than 1 synergy than just rakans e and xayahs w? what items would best synergize? should one go for item 3109 item 3050 ?

Shíníng Díamond2 votes

So... I'm assuming I'm going to need 15,600 ip for this duo? item 3070

DizzyDeuce2 votes

There's only one Raka & that's the banana queen herself, SorakaSoraka You guys need a name change.

Kshaway1 votes

I'm sure I'm asking a stupid question but.... Will they have added bonuses together? For example, It looked like if Xayah was with Rakan he could heal her.

Scarletmeow2 votes

That's just his Q I think

Raiku Kawisa3 votes

Xayah has an ability that increases her movespeed if she hits a champ. If Rakan is nearby, he also gets that movespeed.

Rakan has an ability that lets him dash to a nearby ally, his dash range is increased if he is targetting Xayah.

EDIT: Oh! I almost forgot. If one is recalling, the other can join in on the recall. Yes, I'm pretty sure if the second one joins just before the recall is finished they get to head back almost instantly.

Moongi1 votes

Do they have to be played together or are they just together for lore purposes?

Decca Kid1 votes

looking forward to playing a solo Xayah in the mid lane or top lane and can she play without Rakan and how will this benefit or hurt xayah

KØRAZU1 votes

rakan is a support ?

Elindez1 votes

Why do they have gigantic fox ears if they're based on birds? Xayah looks like a fancy skin for AhriAhri

Lord Ferno1 votes

Hopefully the ADC role will be a bit better now.

Nozomy1 votes

When they will be ready for game ?

Sppaz081 votes

he looks so bored. and so ready to play!

Rosalinou1 votes

Is Rakan ad?,ap?,tank?

Sppaz081 votes

is she going to be a jg like all the other adc's

Potáto1 votes

I like the idea of the two champions synergy, better then thresh kalista who have good synergy, but their kits are made for each other, literally. However, getting both through draft, especially past the pros 10 bans will make it hard for her to see competitive play. This makes me sad but by the rare chance they get past the bans (very unlikely) it will be fun to watch especially with their amazing design and kit. I also find it interesting how the mobility lies in the support since you don't see many mobile supports, especially that of the caliber of Rakan. Can't wait to practice these champs as a sup/adc main and hopefully be able to pick her on release in b4 the autolocks :c.

hiphopcantstop1 votes

they can recall together does that means they can teleport to turrents together?

BigDaddyBrazzer

xayah is gonna be more of a jungle assassin adc than a actual adc and if rakan is in the game well believe they will show up in yr lane a lot

Hungry Cancer2 votes

She has to setup considerably to do much damage, so she won't be quite as roam heavy as say a twitch, she's really built to control a lane; kinda like Zyra if you move away from your zone of control you'll be at a disadvantage until you setup the feathers.

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