RGM, IP, and tons of damage in Ask Riot

Riot·6/9/2016, 12:46:56 AM·3 votes·73,409 views

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What is next with Rotating Game Modes, what to do with all that IP, and why we use percent health damage are up for this week.

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When will we see new game modes in RGM?

We're still forging the path at the moment with our current stable of modes, and we’re carefully looking at how each one is received and how people are engaging with it. Unfortunately, we can’t tell you exactly when your favorite mode, like say Doom Bots, is coming back but we can talk about how we’re selecting each mode to include in RGM.

So far the modes we’ve included in RGM represent the widest spread of gameplay with strong engagement, URF for example, is a mode we consistently hear about from players, which is why we chose it among our first releases. That doesn’t mean RGM is a popularity contest. Any game mode that we've previously released is a potential candidate for the RGM queue. If your favourite mode isn't in there yet, there's a chance it will be eventually.

We also want to try and offer something that’s updated, so as we look at other game modes, it’s important we deliver something more than nostalgia. As you’ve seen with Definitely Not Dominion, we don’t just want to throw old modes into the queue. We try to keep everyone updated on what modes are coming in the near future - so make sure you check in weekly to see what’s coming up. – L4T3NCY



Have you thought of alternatives to spend our excess IP? (something different from champions and runes)?

We are definitely looking for opportunities to add new ways to spend IP. We frequently release limited-time summoner icons for IP, and recently added a major new outlet for IP that we believe will be compelling for many.

Our latest foray was champion mastery levels 6 & 7, which grants players new mastery badge emotes, new loading screen border flags and announcement banner upgrades. This enables players to show off their favorite champions through a combination of skill and investment. We wanted to make sure the rewards were accessible to all of you so we added the ability to use IP to get them.

Additionally, we know that for many newer players, the challenge is earning enough IP for everything you want to spend it on. To address this over the past year, we’ve permanently reduced the price of many runes, held rune and rune page sales, and added Party IP weekends. We will continue to look for ways to make things better for players across the full spectrum of IP wealth. – Wingfield



Why include percent health damage in a champion’s kit? Is it simply a response to the tank meta? Or do you want to design every champion to always feel like they can do at least a bit of relevant damage even if they are full tank or utility because you have found this to be more satisfying for the player?

We have four primary mechanics and we use them individually with the intent to help champions excel against different types of opposing champions. These mechanics deliver damage based off of:

  • Current health
  • Max health
  • Missing health
  • Scaling damage (based off of a percentage of missing health)

Let’s break each of these down.

Current health is typically used on tanky champions we want to soften up targets and set up allies for success (think Jarvan). Missing health works best when we want champions to deliver the final blow – assassins fit well here – such as Fizz. Maximum health is when we want a champion to be a threat to all enemies. Think of a fighter or skirmisher like Fiora, or for a specific ability that should always be a threat, Tahm Kench’s Devour.

A similar-looking but very different mechanic is used with abilities like Veigar’s ultimate that multiply the ability’s damage with the percentage of the enemy’s missing health – but don’t actually consider the enemy’s raw health values. This is a big difference because this ability won’t scale in damage as an enemy’s max health increases.

It’s worth noting this is a less-powerful mechanic as the ability has a hard cap on how much damage it can deal, such as double or triple the base damage. We like using this when we want an ability to feel great as a finishing move, but don’t want to be drastically changing who the champion is strong or weak against. Veigar and Riven both use this mechanic on their ultimates. Veigar excels at blowing up squishy targets (hence why marksmen so frequently flee the scene when he’s around) but struggles versus super tanky champs who can shrug off his ult. The amplified damage means he can more likely get the final blow on a champion but he’s still incentivized to use it on squishy enemies because at best, you are dealing twice the base damage which a tanky enemy simply won’t care about as much.

You also specifically asked about how we create kits against an existing meta. We don’t design champions based on a current meta. Why not? Well, champions take a while to develop, so when a champion is released, it’s a different landscape from when it’s originally created. – FeralPony


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344 Comments

Mansana6/9/2016, 9:13:07 PM60 votes

I understand the reasoning behind %hp damage but you can't deny that certain kits just abuse it way more than others. It's why Kindred is a monster, it's why Tank Fizz, Tank Ekko, and Tank Fiora at one point were a thing. You cannot just simply explain why you add it to certain champs without realizing how problematic they come to be. It's why Kha'zix execute damage was removed despite it being relevant to his assassination style of play. You are telling me that %hp damage is totally balanced when most of the champs that do have this mechanic have all been problematic at some point.

ModCaptainMårvelous6/9/2016, 11:37:28 PM32 votes

We are definitely looking for opportunities to add new ways to spend IP. We frequently release limited-time summoner icons for IP, and recently added a major new outlet for IP that we believe will be compelling for many.

I wholeheartedly disagree.

The IP mastery thing is a slapdash addition to a poorly implemented system of using essence. More so, you have so many possible IP sinks and yet you keep making them RP only. Every time you put 3-5 icons in the store, only ONE is worth IP. That's not an IP sink, that's an IP thimble.

It disappoints me that this is the best solution you can come up with for IP sinks at the present time. Chromas, Hextech Crates/Keys, even skins for massive IP costs (Like 20k for a 975 skin) would all be better. Yet here we are, stapling champion mastery to IP.

You guys can do so much better.

CytoplHazim6/9/2016, 10:06:03 PM29 votes

Is Velkoz the holy flying spaghetti monster? I have been worshipping him since I am a loyal Pastafarian

Lady Hammerlock6/10/2016, 2:41:32 AM18 votes

Will we ever see black market brawlers again?

Reaper85126/9/2016, 11:05:17 PM12 votes

I am still waiting for Nemesis Draft to return, it was so fun playing low playrate champs against each other, and seeing what most people view as weak.

Reaper85126/9/2016, 11:03:43 PM8 votes

Waiting for nemesis draft to return, i rank it 3rd best mode after urf and all for one

Kinder6/9/2016, 11:44:57 PM6 votes

So why do tanks need to %health damage though to set it up for allies? Is Maokai's point+click root, knockback and slow(s) not enough to set it up for allies?

Besides, you're also giving tanks a LOT of base damage. Sion Q, fully charged (not that difficult to get of if chaining off of ult or when getting a gank) has 300 base damage. That's the same base damage as some ults.

Wert the Wacky6/9/2016, 10:52:19 PM5 votes

Why no Poro champion?

ThwartinMaPlans6/9/2016, 9:35:06 PM5 votes

Are we going to ever get a skin reflecting how Yasuo looked during the taliyah lore?

RobotRevolution6/9/2016, 10:13:51 PM5 votes

Is there any chance of the RGM being available full-time rather than just on weekends?

Magfrys6/9/2016, 8:50:06 PM2 votes

what is your guy's oppion on having multiple accounts (relatively same elo and mmr) so not smurfs just other accounts like tyler1 but not bought or anything leveled just for if they get banned or something

Snarfthesnarf6/9/2016, 9:47:34 PM2 votes

What are your thoughts on Nasus and Sion (etc.) that have infinite scaling with damage and health? I feel that it seems too be too much of a reward for probably doing one of the most boring things in the game(at least to me)