Patch Rundown – 4.12

Riot·Jul 16, 2014·4 votes·25,424 views

Hey guys,

We’re piloting the first episode of (what we hope to be!) a new video series, the Patch Rundown! These videos will focus on the contents of the latest patch before opening up a discussion between Riot designers and guests. Patch 4.12 introduces jungle timers along with changes to Alistar, Lucian and more - hit play for the full rundown and patch discussion featuring Statikk and Nome from Riot Games and Snoopeh from Evil Geniuses.

We’ll improve future videos with the feedback you leave us, so add in your comments below!

969 Comments

dhkduyhkgdJul 16, 2014316 votes

i really like this idea. its really neat (in my opinion) to hear the raw logic behind all of these changes that most people just say "herpdeherpdehurr, that's op"

Belias the UglyJul 16, 2014105 votes

I agree; I really enjoyed the video. While I don't always agree with Riot's balance decisions, it's great to see that they're putting a lot of thought into each decision that they make.

Judge ArcadiaJul 16, 201465 votes

they used to do this before too. It was Phreak and Morello going over the patch notes and Morello explaining why they did the things they did.

Glad to see it come back. Now its fancier too.

BreadgehogJul 16, 201414 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkdP-Xp0N6o Never forget. Between Morello's laugh at the very idea of Noct buffs that close to his release, and Tamat's reaction, this was THE best patch simply because of the video for it. XD

jerplayer5Jul 16, 201421 votes

I hate it when people only say 'herpdeherpdehurr'!

Mr BananaJul 16, 2014419 votes

My Grandfather smoked his whole life. I was about 10 years old when my mother said to him, "If you ever want to see your grandchildren graduate, you better stop immediately." Tears welled up in his eyes when he realized exactly what was at stake. He gave it up immediately. Three years later he died of lung cancer. It was really sad and destroyed me. My Mother said to me- "Don't smoke. Please don't put your family through what your Grandfather put us through." I agreed and at 21 I have never touched a cigarette. I must say, I feel a very slight sense of regret for never having done it, because your post gave me cancer anyway. herpdeherpdehurr

DadsHairyHoleJul 17, 2014111 votes

I almost felt bad... until the end.

Genius AnimusJul 17, 201436 votes

Best Troll this YEAR.

NecromancerJul 17, 201426 votes

You mean best copy pasta right.. right. It's 2014 and this is from like 2012, lol.

On ParJul 16, 2014118 votes

Nothing can replace the hole in my heart for Nika.

JadisDarkJul 16, 201415 votes

Never will it happen. I wish she could have kept doing those small but awesome vids.

Stryker6IXJul 16, 20146 votes

Amumu Okay

TitaniusJul 16, 201431 votes

Rammus OK

RiotMsPuddingJul 16, 2014118 votes

Agree :( I used to sit next to her back when we worked on contests together. So many fun times were had!

On ParJul 17, 201427 votes

You guys should do a Reunion video =).

Cairo LunaireJul 17, 201411 votes

You did great :) looked good up there too

GmeshJul 16, 2014101 votes

If you want to focus on ali support ONLY why not just give him a useful passive instead of cutting his already weak passive by half...

DEAD BY DEATHJul 16, 201428 votes

riot look at this plz

Natch42Jul 17, 201415 votes

They just cut down the damage it dealt to monsters, not minions. That way he can't jungle, and skew the game with the worst level 2 gank in history.

GrealocJul 17, 20147 votes

No, all supports need passives that do dmg to minions. Doing uncontrollable dmg to minions is quintessential to the support role.

Raw DoggedJul 16, 201449 votes

When will we get patch 4.20?

Bigfoot KerchoffJul 17, 201436 votes

they arent finished rolling it yet

Fireshot1337Jul 17, 201419 votes

4.20 will only come out when they blaze it item 2009

BrandoBot3dJul 17, 201421 votes

I always go item 3068 on Maokai to light them trees

BudoBoy07Jul 16, 201441 votes

Good, but not enough Teemo deaths. 8/10

ScooobyDooobyDooJul 16, 201437 votes

+1, Now I can stare at something other than my Patch Progress bar. item 2049 item 2045

HandheldBrandonJul 16, 201435 votes

Really liked this video. It was especially great with snoopeh their questioning some of the decisions as a pro player. He really stopped them hard when he asked about lucians range nerf and then they did their best to convince him it was for the better. It was a great discussion i hope to see more of these. Also Pudding did a great job.

lawltreeJul 16, 201429 votes

When did "The View" start talking about League? Someone get them some coffee cups that have water in them.

RiotRiot NeonJul 16, 201457 votes

Coffee Cups: Done.

Antares16Jul 16, 201420 votes

But Blakinola does the TL;DR's already lol Lucian

ÐânJul 16, 201415 votes

Awesome AD changes But i think the item 3508 is a little too expensive to be 3400 Gold. its not worth the Passive 2-8% mana

SelphJul 16, 201415 votes

I would actually like to see an additional professional player in there. The discussion from Riot's perspective is really interesting, but I also liked to hear what Snoopeh had to say. Then there would also be more parity between professional and designer points of view. :)

I really like the feature, would love to see more of them. And feel free to go longer. :P

purplicious727Jul 16, 201414 votes

Does anyone else remember the patch preview??? What was wrong with that?

MrSpiralzJul 16, 201414 votes

Nikasaur or riot

Fuzzy DongerJul 17, 201414 votes

Blah blah Lucian is a beast blah item 3072 is blood thirstier. Now to the real question: Where can I get that Amumu plush?

HelyousJul 16, 201413 votes

She's cute but she isn't Nikasaur :'( Why Nika... WHY YOU LEFT RIOT!?!?!!?!?

momomoroJul 16, 201412 votes

Didn't they used to have something like this to introduce the patch?

Zombie GrueJul 16, 20149 votes

yeah, the last one I remember they made changes to Skarner and then I didnt see any further videos on any future patches. That was before they introduced Aatrox , so it was a quite some time ago.

ConcertizerJul 16, 201411 votes

Not a bad idea.

But there seems to be a ridiculous amount of people who do this, and not to mention, they do it with more depth.

Probably won't be my first go to, but still, good luck Riot.

Edit: What I do like about it, is the fact you get the team behind the changes involved.

PapaPoverJul 16, 201411 votes

aka Patch Preview 2.0

Chip StickyJul 16, 201411 votes

I thoroughly enjoy hearing the different perspectives on the Patch Notes. All the more insightful to see Snoopeh play devil's advocate on a couple of the changes to answer some of my own questions. Good work Riot, I'm a fan.

platinumphazerJul 17, 201411 votes

i feel like once you get all the champs and all the runes IP is useless and almost subtracts a part of the game once I acquired everything. I essentially have a growing savings account that i only use to buy new champs when they come out. Once you get like 10000 or 20000 IP you should be able to trade it in for like 975 RP. I'd play more.

MuffinyJul 16, 20149 votes

I dislike the Jungle Timers. I feel like they are making things just too obvious and easy now.

Constable BunuJul 17, 201426 votes

On the other hand, now there is no excuse for missing a return trip to dragon, as opposed to timing the camp in chat with timestamps and scrolling for 15 seconds past the pings and arguing of your team to find your timing. I personally like the concept behind jungle timers because it makes information already available to the players more accessible and convenient.

MacaroniDragonJul 16, 20148 votes

BRING BACK NIKKASAUR

yacotaJul 17, 20148 votes

ok the jungle timers are long overdue, but we still dont have friendly ult timers. id also like to see friendly summoners timers although thats a little less important. we need the ult timers at least. it takes time to type and ask how long til a teamates ult is back up and thats important information. looking at a timer makes the game flow much better, compared to taking time to type