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Inside Pre-Season 2017 changes

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This week, designers Andrei ‘Meddler’ Van Roon, Jo ‘Fearless’ Graylock, and John ‘Riot MEMEMEMEME’ Goscicki stop by to discuss the upcoming pre-season 2017 changes with Patrick ‘Scarizard’ Scarborough!


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185 Comments

Birdpe39 votes

URFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

quetza1710 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Mattsumune11 votes

Urf without All randommmmm so i can play veigar as much as i want

jaredishott2 votes

Soon™ item 3151

RedCater3 votes

got veig x3 in a row last urf [slayer-jinx-wink]

Gerald MtnDew1 votes

I got Diana 3x in a row

James3363401 votes

I got Anivia 8 times ;-;

Gerald MtnDew1 votes

how few champs do you have?

deathmachiene83 votes

Yeah well i got Taric get outgemed*[zombie-nunu-bummed]*

Liranan6 votes

I would really like a semi random system that would incentivize players to not just play the champs that are op in urf but still be able to play the people they want to play every now and then

Penguin053 votes

Like....a random ban URF

Skaiserus2 votes

Or, we could just add those ten bans NOW, and we won't see much of the OP ones. Donzo. -.-

Maplesurps13 votes

What if you can choose from a pool of 5-10 random champs

redbuck13 votes

Now there's an idea. [slayer-jinx-wink]

Mattsumune1 votes

No man, either have two separate queue for this or make two different URF modes but don't take away the ONLY reason I would even bother to play this mode.

Ndoki13 votes

Hey Guys, I was wondering if Riot is planning on updating the champion mastery system? I think some post game feedback or tips on how to improve our grade would benefit many lower level players such as myself. It could even be as simple as "Try farming more" or "You had too many deaths". Anything really to help me understand what I as a player can do to get that A+ up to an S.

On a side note the preseason has been a blast so far. I'm loving all the new aspects of the game that living fruits and the new support items are providing. Keep up the good work and thanks for all you do!

SoopaFrancid2 votes

farming has a lot to do with it you can go 11/2/10 if u only have 100 farm ur probly not getting an s

redbuck13 votes

They said once that they didn't want to give tips on what you need to get an s because people might see "Try farming more" and feel encouraged to steal from people's lanes, or "You had too many deaths" and leave as soon as a teamfight starts.

SimplyUnlucky13 votes

Plants are too generic because they don't fit the fantasy theme. This is the Jungle, these plants need to be more alive. Killing them in one hit and their abilities are fine but make them look like creatures and not just plain old plants. This also brings in the opportunity to add a new jungle camp, a boss plant that gives some sort of buff. Not sure where you'd locate it, maybe replace rift herald. The plant idea giving players more interaction in the jungle is great, but make these plant creatures spawn from the cracks/ground just like how all other camps have their animation before spawn. Maybe give them a bit of artistic feel on the ground around them so they don't look like they appeared from nowhere. Make them more fun and I think you'll see a huge turnaround on the mentality of them. I'm also not too keen on the rng plant spawns, I feel more plays would be made if there was consistency. ~From a jungle main of 5 years

Diansiji3 votes

A new rift maybe... JUNGLER'S RIFT! Muahaha

catgrill10 votes

Rammus is weak with the new jungle camps. Please do something <3

ARAM and AGOAT15 votes

ok

Junglerz Fault3 votes

He's slower that's for sure but still viable with a ton of armor runes.

Watermelone216 votes

Riot I was wondering if you would be able to make a certain mode where you can switch between older kits of the champions?

It would be so cool if you could do that please.

sixths2 votes

i understand why some people would WANT this, but tbh it would be a waste of time for riot, and honestly a waste of time for you... while it may be "fun" its not really productive for anyone.

Aendelan1 votes

Something I've always fancied with is them enabling us to "buy" a champions old kit and play it in norms, but ban it from ranked. It isn't exactly a waste of time when it would take less than a day to do.

sixths1 votes
  1. how do you know it would only take a day to do?

  2. people that want to use norms as a practice tool for ranked don't want to have to play against old kits, especially ones that were changed because they were cancer to the game.

  3. then they'd also have to worry about balancing not only current champs but older versions of them... not good.

the only way they could pull this off would be with a separate queue (maybe a rotating game mode or something) but i think even then it would have so few ppl in it that it would not be worth it.

OffMetaSuppMain1 votes

I love when people use the "waste of time" excuse when talking about a video game. The whole point of a video game is to waste time without being bored. If somebody wants old kits (which it isn't uncommon for people to want them) who are you to say it isn't worth their time to play them? And as a company that thrives off of making their customers (aka the players) happy it also wouldn't be a waste of time for Riot because the happier their players the better their profits.

I am not saying Riot should grant every request made by every player, that would be impossible, or that they should bring back old kits, would be cool but they have other projects that they are working on that take precedent, but to blatantly say "that's a waste of time" is unreasonable, and unless you're a pro LoL player who makes their living off of the game then any time you play the game you are being unproductive.

sixths1 votes

You just made the assumption that playing a video game is always unproductive, which is an entirely different argument that I find completely false but I'm not going to take the time to get into. But let it be said that not everyone that plays video games is just "wasting time" and "being unproductive", even if it is the case for you and/or you assume that it is the case for others.

Needless to say, if anyone wants to play a game that is not in its current state they typically have to resort to mods, which are also typically free to play and NOT made by the actual company themselves. From a business standpoint it would be rather impractical to cater to such a small minority, especially when it is going against their visions of where they want to take their game in genera.

My main argument is that it would be a "waste of time" in that you would either upset the masses by allowing the use of old kits in any sort of standard queue, or you would have to create a new queue specifically to allow old kits, which would likely not have many people in them and would therefore provide a likely frustrating experience for people trying to play it.

I think the only reasonable way to implement this would be to have a rotating game mode that allowed you to select from a champion's different versions of their kits. And even then I think you'd be hard pressed to get enough people into that queue to make it worth it.

MisterSpoon5 votes

I was hoping for more meme comments but I'm too early.[zombie-nunu-bummed]

NebulaGod215 votes

[zombie-nunu-tears]

DAD WAS ASIAN4 votes

GL HFsummoner 31

Èllipsìs4 votes

MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME

Blooface3 votes

well now because the camps spawn late you are forcing us to start red and blue and its harder to leash so this punishes lanes who have to help

Zenkrey26 votes

actually, it's possible to solo red and blue since they removed the "babies" without a leash. I was able to do it on khazix and finish with more then 75% health. Also now if you smite ANY camp you get health including blue and scuttler/crab so that makes stuff easier as well.

StrikeAlpha7 votes

Bruh I started with Talon at red by myself and made it work. I'm not even a jungler either. lol

General Glitter3 votes

Same, did a custom to play around as talon and jungle was easy af. I dont even main that.

Hallow Halo15 votes

For anyone wondering here is what I found out: Season 7 junglers done(no scuttlecrab!)

lee sin 3:29 (no krugs) elise 4:26 rengar 3:46(no krugs) 4:30 with krugs rek'sai 4:33 nunu 4:22 amumu 4:09 udyr 4:49 gragas 5:00 shyvana 3:47 kindred 4:36 Hecarim 4:07 Ivern 4:20 Graves 4:17 Vi 4:10 Nautilus 4:14 Diana 4:20 J4 3:55(no gromp) Warwick 4:44 Zac 4:24 Xin Zhao 4:19 Nasus 4:40 Shaco 4:03 Trundle4:02 Tryndamere 4:11 Master yi 4:17 Cho gath 4:27 Olaf 4:09 Pantheon 5:31 Volibear 4:41 Skarner 4:34 aatrox 4:21 Dr. Mundo 3:44 Fiddle 5:20 This is just some I did overall I stopped at Fiddle though :/ sorry

Face on keyboard4 votes

@xXEx1l3dXx

What runes were you using in general for these clears?

Alzon3 votes

Hehe Shyvana still clears faster than anyone. I can't wait til she becomes viable again after next patch! I've had my girl benched for so long now that I'm suffering from withdrawal... [zombie-nunu-bummed]

WeirdFluxButOkay3 votes

ivern jungle clear in 4:20 lmao

Quoin2 votes

Im offended I used to main Fiddle what is his time or im reporting for racism

Mik3yK3 votes

I love the podcasts. Please do more

fReAkThEzOiD3 votes

good job u killed teemo with that new dusk blade shit...WHY THE FUK would u disable teemos ult with that???

Ireliavence24 votes

cuz fuck teemo.

Flamangoe3 votes

They should seriously buff Kindred like kindred does literally no damage whatsoever and they needa bring back their original W passive with the healing

Snez2 votes

Seriously buff? No. I've played with my bronze friend when he went kindred, and he did fine, if not fantastic.. Your wrong.

Skaiserus2 votes

Kindred right now, can only be played with high skill players. I really don't want major buffs to her or anything, no healing, or anything. I just want an increase in movement speed. Can't escape half the junglers in the game when your Q is down, you have boots, they don't. That's all I want. A movement speed increase.

riven is cool2 votes

Ezreal

EvilUnicornLord16 votes

-is hyped for the new Lux skin because legs.

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