New champ select replaces Team Builder

Riot·1/6/2016, 7:10:45 PM·31 votes·102,803 views

UPDATE: The new champ select will now go live in NA & TR on January 14, a day later than expected.

TLDR: When new champ select goes live in your region, it will replace the Team Builder queue.

Since introducing the experimental Team Builder queue back in 2013, we’ve been analyzing and rethinking the best way to get into a game of League. The lessons we learned from the Team Builder queue directly impacted the development of new champ select.

We’d originally planned to adopt Team Builder across all queues, but as our first attempt at improving the experience of starting a League match, a few issues held us back. While Team Builder successfully empowered individual players to choose the champ they wanted in the role they wanted each time, it wasn’t as good at helping teams assemble a specific strategy or composition. Building a Yasuo-based knock-up comp or a classic Orianna-oriented wombo combo was damn hard when non-premade players pre-selected their champs. Long queue times made turning down champions that didn’t fit while waiting for your team’s missing piece feel even worse.

With new champ select, we’ve solved the issues we found with Team Builder. Teams get on the same page and start working together through pick intent and distributed bans right from the start. You’re guaranteed to get one of the two positions you prefer, and you can use pick intent to let your team know who you’re looking to play before bans and picks take place.

We ultimately decided to disable the Team Builder queue because we believe new champ select is a better answer to many of the problems we were trying to solve with Team Builder, and in the future we’ll introduce a version of blind pick inspired by the new design for players who are looking for the new champ select experience without bans or drafting.

New champ select goes live in NA & TR for testing in Normal Draft and Ranked on January 13, 2016. If everything goes well, we’ll continue to roll out new champ select in other territories over the following days. Thanks to everyone who gave us feedback along the way to this launch, from the original Team Builder beta to the recent PBE testing. We’re excited to take this next step into League’s future, and we can’t wait to join you in new champ select.

 

969 Comments

LostMarble1/7/2016, 10:35:55 PM335 votes

I don't understand why this is either/or. Why does team builder have to be removed to implement this game mode?

Medîeve1/7/2016, 10:14:00 PM144 votes

I think you're undervaluing Team Builder. I know a lot of players I've spoken to, including myself, use it to practice a particular champ or role as a filler between Bots and Ranked. Removing Team Builder, and the guaranteed pick and lane you want to practice, make the process longer and more frustrating, while simultaneously removing the intermediary level to develop your skills.

I really hope you reconsider.

Meow Nug1/8/2016, 12:24:09 AM108 votes

Team builder was all I played. Thanks.

HI IM DAISY 831/8/2016, 12:08:55 AM108 votes

Why does Team Builder need to be removed?

I mean, you keep other dead game modes like Dominion. Why not keep Team Builder? Are options a bad thing now?

I mean, look at this. Who has even seen this item before? item 1062

Hope Dies Last1/8/2016, 12:12:44 AM93 votes

There is a HUGE error with this. I personally HATE draft pick not only because of bans but because of the kind of players you often get stuck with while playing such a mode, be it normals or ranked. Teambuilder let me choose who i wanted to play and where and allowed me greater control over what i wanted to do. So what if i had to wait a bit longer for it. the game was almost always more fun because of the greater amount of control i was given over who and what i wanted to do and be. Taking out teambuilder makes players who don't like being stuck in roles they don't like have to play modes where it's already determined what's going to happen. Again, I hate ranked and draft mode in general.

I don't mind the replacement of the draft mode champion select. Doesn't affect me much. However taking out teambuilder does affect me and I am completely against it. I don't see why it is being removed unless it occupies the same bits of code that the new champion select does, Or maybe it's being done to try and force players to play more draft mode? Not everyone here plays to be a god level competitive player.

ThermoFusion1/8/2016, 3:26:38 AM79 votes

Team builder allows me to play the champ/role I want. This new thing gives me 50/50 odds at best. This is not an improvement.

Team builder means that if the other players don't like the champ/role I've chosen, then they can choose to not play with me. This new thing means that if they don't like my champ preference they can choose to ban my champ instead and I will still be forced to play. This is not an improvement.

Team builder guarantees that I can play the game I want. This new thing means I will frequently be forced to play a game I don't want. This is not better at all.

It can already take multiple tries to get a good game: one with cooperative and fun teammates and without afk's, trolls or other dissapointing outcomes. If I have to try multiple times to get a game that I wanted, and then hope it turns out ok... With average games hitting 30 minutes or more; it will take hours with this new system to get a satifying game.

I don't have that much time. Me and my wife play League in what time we have because there's a lot we like about the game. But without team builder giving us some control over what sort of game we'll be filling our evening with, we just won't have time for this anymore.

If team builder is removed, we'll be going back to ARAM only.. or just finding a different game entirely.

Woodsy25751/7/2016, 11:04:11 PM64 votes

This makes me so sad you have no idea

wastenohate1/7/2016, 11:29:05 PM55 votes

team builder was a good way of getting a team assembled quickly of anybody who accepted, and then learning just exactly what doesn't work. Made for good times

savagejen1/8/2016, 3:35:11 AM52 votes

So are we forced to select more than one role? The whole point of team builder was that you could get exactly the role you wanted.

47891/7/2016, 10:05:44 PM52 votes

is it just me, or does anyone else hate playing ranked in general?i just do it once every, like, 25 games :P summoner 31 summoner 31 summoner 31

daboswinney1/8/2016, 1:13:23 AM40 votes

I Think that instead of getting rid of team builder, why not just replace draft mode? isn't that what your doing for ranked anyway? i mean i just don't like bans and i don't like blind pick because people instalock. I think replacing draft mode will be a million times better.

Tocks1/7/2016, 10:24:18 PM37 votes

While I do not care for Team Builder, I am greatly looking forward to the New Champ Select. I think you guys nailed it and I'm very excited to play ranked this season SPECIFICALLY because of this addition.

However, while the inspiration for the new champ select may have come from team builder, I think it is unwise to replace one with the other. I do understand the need to do so, but I think there are better ways to go about this.

"Long queue times made turning down champions that didn’t fit while waiting for your team’s missing piece feel even worse." This is the ONLY thing wrong with team builder as a blind pick experience. One "captain" or the "builder" in this case flipping through several junglers till he found the Lee Song cause he thinks he's op ruins the "quick game" feel that blind pick offers. Instead of removing the mode, remove the captain! You pick a lane, you pick a champ, then you queue, while in queue you arrange your masteries, runes and summoner spells. The game is now the "captain", it builds the team for the players and puts a Top, JG, Mid, Adc and Support together against another team. After a few clicks you're in game, no dodging, no flaming, just league. Let's call this mode "Instalock".

Now what's wrong with the current blind pick? My main issue with it is that I'm already fighting with my team before the game even starts. The role I wanted had already been called, now I have to go with my next pick, oh but wait that was called too. Or maybe I managed to call my lane before everyone else, "yay I got JG!", then suddenly that Master Yi with smite is locked in. Sure I can just pick my JG and ignore him, then there's bad juju between us the entire experience. Not to mention the rest of my team flaming me for selecting a role that had already been selected. Thanks to Riot's fancy Team Builder, this issue has been solved, "Instalock" would be the dream child of TB and BP. Faster, less crying, and only one smite!

I know what you're thinking, Instalock doesn't allow you to see your teammates before the game starts, and I say "that's what I call blind pick!". Instalock is all about adapting and making due with what you have.

TLDR - Combine Team Builder and Blind Pick to create a simple "quick queue" game mode and name it "Instalock".

N0TY0U1/8/2016, 3:29:39 AM36 votes

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't want to get a random role(even between two), when I play in team builder I want to play MY role.

Auratic Sky1/8/2016, 1:58:27 AM36 votes

I have to agree. Some times you WANT to practice a certain champ, in a certain role. Team Build provides you with that option, consistently. Some times, I just want to play my favorite champs, without being forced out of them. Leave TB the hell alone.

MaGnataR0081/8/2016, 1:33:29 AM34 votes

seriously why does Riot have to make an another major mess and ruin something Good every time they think of something New.(like riot did with new HUD and fiora rework)

By saying that I don't think new champ select is a bad thing but killing team builder is a terrible idea.

I don't think I played a single blind pick since the team builder was introduced. Reasons

  1. got to play the champ I wanted to and where I wanted.

  2. Didn't have to go thorough the stress of arguing and raging from the champ select just play the game.

  3. and of course Less trolls.

Many people playing LOL including myself don't play this game to be a pro level competitive player but just to have some fun.

So P/lease Riot let normal players of this game have a Less stressful game mode without having to do with banning, planning,raging and all the hassle.

Suisei Zero1/8/2016, 2:07:08 AM32 votes

I really hope riot looks at this and acts upon what the community wants. I already felt skeptic about the new champion select because one, why not just replace the draft pick? Sure its almost a hybrid item 3124 of them, but it mainly fixes draft pick. In draft pick there's already a thing called "pref" which is what lane you prefer. Now the new draft just forces people to say it (instead of those jerks who just sit there and say nothing). But two, people play this game for fun. I am pretty competitive and love ranked and trying to get better, but i am one of few. There are so many people who don't care about team comps, or banning, or things like that. They just want to practice their Heimerdinger (lol). I think team build is your most creative game mode and if you don't like it you don't have to play it! Just replace draft if you're going to add a new game mode. TB was fun, and even though the comps weren't perfect, it is actually really fun "building" a team. TB has something the other modes didn't have and it was that "building" feature. It's fun to see what champions you get, kind of like opening a new pack of trading cards. Team Build for me, and a lot of other people, is really fun, and even though the wait time can be a little longer, that's what blind is for isn't it? As someone else said, that's the sacrifice we take to play team build. Its also awesome for pre-made 5's as we can all get in and see what we want to pick instead of having to rush under a minute. Please please please please listen to us riot, i think the community really likes Team Build, and even though almost everyone here has hated on TB once in their lives, we would miss it if it was gone.

WarMachineAres1/8/2016, 12:06:19 AM32 votes

I'm sorry, but as a top lane main, I simply cannot stand the fact that you are removing TB. Tbh, I've dealt with the many shortcomings of Rito during my League career, but this is it. I will be taking my MOBA skills elsewhere, probably SMITE or HOTS. at least I won't be stuck with the support role each and everytime that I pick a champion, or hero, or god, or whatever. I MAY return, depending on if Rito makes changes regarding their decision. if not, then this will be the last post I make as a member of the League community. Good Luck, and may the Force be with you.

Meow Nug1/8/2016, 12:19:47 AM22 votes

Rito whyyyyy. . .

Noximus441/7/2016, 10:00:26 PM13 votes

I liked team builder and i liked pick the role i wanted and the champ i wanted. I think this is going to have a very negative feedback with people raging and fighting over the position they want to play. What if someone wants to play top and only top. Some People will rage quit before the game even starts then you have everyone else pissed off from that. This is going to make alot more TOXIC players then there already is!!!

Cottontail Garen1/9/2016, 12:06:21 AM11 votes

This new mode doesn't sound as good as TB. I don't care if the team comp sucks, I just want to play the champ I want in the lane/role I want. Please reconsider.

#SaveTB #SpareTheSuffering #TheyChangedItNowItSucks

RyoHakuron1/15/2016, 9:19:08 AM11 votes

#BringTeambuilderBack

Teambuilder brought things to the table that neither this nor blind pick bring. Honestly, I'm probably gonna stop playing Summoner's Rift altogether except when I have a full five man. At least, until Riot fixes the mess they made.

Niyumi1/7/2016, 10:03:10 PM5 votes

So, basically, I get stuck playing the same role every game now. Fun. >.>

And, before you say it, the "fill" option will default to support or ADC 90% of the time.