Inside Ryze Dev with RiotRepertoir and more!

Riot·Jul 15, 2016·2 votes·13,534 views

Welcome to the latest League Podcast, a series in which we take you behind-the- scenes with the people who help make League possible. Expect new guests and new stories every couple of weeks or so, and make sure to hit us with those comments and ratings so we can keep striving toward a Challenger-tier podcast.

This week, designer David “RiotRepertoir” Capurro, writer John “O’Dyin” O’Bryan, and splash artist Josh “HUGEnFAST” Smith share the behind-the-scenes story on updating the Rune Mage.

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41 Comments

F O R F I T ZJul 17, 20167 votes

Adam Harrington has support this stupid a** game and community for years, he has a YouTube Channel talking about League of Legends and how all the voice actors never thought this game would become this big. By calling him "just a guy they pulled off the street" to record Ryze's seven lines is just a disgrace to Adam and the character.... what has this game come too? making fun of the old voice actors and creators....... I made a post in the PBE forums, I have over 1300+ ryze games on this one champion, believe me they failed horribly handling his rework...

PBE forum post http://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-pbe-feedback/NvqE2EP2-new-ryze-vs-old-ryze-by-a-1300-ryze-games-player

Adam Harrington's YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/user/harringtonvo

Ryze Take This Rework And Stick It Riot! Somewhere Safe........

Th4renJul 20, 20161 votes

in the context of describing an event "some guy off the street" may be valid. Harrison Ford was some guy off the street when he read lines for Han Solo. Calling Harrison Ford "some guy off the street" without context would be stupid, but in the context of describing events at that time it would simply be accurate.

As for the "real actor" comment it was a bad word choice "established" "professional" would have been better, not going there at all even better, though I think your displeasure with the rework as a whole greatly increased your sensitivity to a couple dumb comments. These podcasts are candid in the moment interviews so they say inaccurate or dumb stuff all the time, but that has more to do with the form of media they are using.

TerraRisingJul 16, 20165 votes

Adam Harrington is "just a guy they pulled off the street" to record Ryze's seven lines? He must've done an impressive enough job to get called back multiple times...

If JohnODyin is still writing Yorick's reworked lore, I'm afraid for my favorite champ if THIS is the flippant attitude he takes towards Ryze's previous content creators.

ObzedatCouncilJul 16, 20163 votes

Well you have to consider, Ryze was made at a time where narrative wasn't a huge department, nor a huge priority. So really he is right, there wasn't a lot there because not a huge effort was but into it, no where near what it is now. So he is not insulting someone, Ryze is a relic when Riot had different ideals behind their content creation.

TerraRisingJul 16, 20164 votes

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Well you have to consider, Ryze was made at a time where narrative wasn't a huge department, nor a huge priority. So really he is right, there wasn't a lot there because not a huge effort was but into it, no where near what it is now. So he is not insulting someone, Ryze is a relic when Riot had different ideals behind their content creation.

If you listen to the podcast, O'Dyin also says they "found a real actor" to do the new lines. That's just as big an insult to me, if I were in Harrington's shoes.

An actor can only work with the material they are given. A good actor can make bad material better, but the fundamental problems lie within the scripts. However, instead of insulting the original writer of those 7 lines, O'Dyin chooses to insult the actor.

So, yes, I believe this guy did insult the original actor, someone who has been awesome to the League Community over the years.

sirknight thomasJul 15, 20163 votes

everyone remember to login to downvote me.

Jyu VioIe GraceJul 16, 20162 votes

lol, 12 downvotes in 22 minutes. DOWNVOTE THIS REPLY GUYS!

ArbiterOfTruthJul 16, 20163 votes

Out of all this there is one thing I want to know: What is Ryze trying to escape in his log-in theme?

BoundaryBreakerJul 16, 20161 votes

The past. AKA his ex.

Raijin OBJul 18, 20162 votes

HE is going after the runes but the dark forces are trying to stop him. (he is drunk and trying to get some action but his friends notice that it's a trap)

dumbitdown JrJul 16, 20163 votes

I really like all these podcasts. More please! Unless there is more and I have not seen them.

Yuki AkimuraJul 16, 20163 votes

Riot great job. I seems as if you guys can read my mind. I've started playing since the late season 4 till now and I've predicted his updated ability as of today. Riot again great job and thank you because I'm a Ryze main. :)

EUGNE29Jul 16, 20162 votes

need re work for ryze he is so op

set435Jul 16, 20163 votes

The Rune Mage... [is] refreshed, reworked, and really, really balanced. He's ready to rip up the rift right now.

Well he's supposed to be balanced...

Ryzing2DiamondJul 16, 201613 votes

The only people who think current Ryze is broken don't know how to play against him. He's nothing compared to old Ryze, a lot weaker, with more counterplay.

KhaoticolJul 16, 20166 votes

The old Ryze perma root..memories

Ryzing2DiamondJul 16, 20162 votes

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The old Ryze perma root..memories

Gotta go pretty far back for that, though. Permaroot was before his passive got limited, you know. It was actually fixed before this rework.

ArchtonJul 21, 20161 votes

Even older Ryze Red Colored targeted overload XD

Necro Warrior87Jul 16, 20161 votes

GUYS JUST CC AND PLAY FIDDLESTICKS MID AND TOP LANE. ryze get rekt

EvilUnicornLordJul 18, 20162 votes

No, please don't put a midlaner in the top lane. You'd be making it utter hell to the toplaner because they can't win it even with item 3156 and your team is going to be lacking a tank.

Necro Warrior87Jul 18, 20163 votes

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No, please don't put a midlaner in the top lane. You'd be making it utter hell to the toplaner because they can't win it even with and your team is going to be lacking a tank.

uhhhh heimerdinger and ryze are better in the top lane. the jungle or support can play tanks. and item 3156 doesnt matter anymore. your over reacting

GruffKibbles89Jul 18, 20161 votes

I have had to do this ryse + teemo top lane vs me as mundo. I hated that so much.

DrMundo me vs Ryze + Teemo . [zombie-brand-clap]

AkineroJul 16, 20161 votes

I love that Urf intro music.

GrandmasterMagiJul 16, 20161 votes

Welcome to Riot Games! We're glad you're here and a part of the team! As per your request, we have put you on the rework team. However, like all new rioters, it is your duty to rework Ryze as an initiation ceremony. It's a new season and he needs another rework.

OWL CORVO PhDJul 16, 20161 votes

Commence the Spam in. 3 2 1 GG

destroyer BOT 16Jul 16, 20161 votes

I have a question: In one for all, if Ryze 1 starts channeling his ult to somewhere, but is standing in Ryze 2's ult who started channeling before Ryze 1 to an area of the opposite direction of Ryze 1's ult, what happens? Do both Ryze s get teleported to Ryze 1 area?

GruffKibbles89Jul 18, 20161 votes

... mind blown good question [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

CarnicoreJul 16, 20161 votes

O'Dyin needs to speak up.

IcingtouchJul 17, 20161 votes

Ryze why did u make ryze so complicated now idk how to play him now

ArakadiaJul 17, 20161 votes

I like the changes. You just gotta practice and use logic and thoughts. Old but good Ryze players wont have a bad transition.

MrMarket87Jul 17, 20161 votes

I like Ryze almost overall, with one exception... And it's something I believe that conflicts with his very own new lore. His ult.

The new lore has us believe there is a lot more to his rough demeanor than simply being an old coot in a hurry, but more importantly, the fact he's just not a team player... So, why does his ult allow passage for not only up to the entire allied team, but minions as well? He outright leaves a village to fend for itself and a child and his grandmother for dead to continue his mission, after he just killed an old pal for reasons that could have been avoided.

I'm all for treading new ground, but Ryze's ult may as well be how Tahm's works if enough peeps hop into his mouth on time. Seriously, he seems capable of that feat if it means spitting everyone out soon after.

It just really seems like he, an ancient Archmage, could have something more than a teleport variation, even if it's one that could affect a whole team... Maybe his ult could work like Karma's for adding more powerful/complex effects/combos to the rest of his kit on command?

Again, I do enjoy the new Ryze, but the ult... Eeehhh...

Ultraman145Jul 17, 20161 votes

When will fiora get another rework? You guys made a whole page about how you guys messed up on her.

Th3D3stroyerJul 18, 20161 votes

new ryze is garbage

XalvianJul 18, 20161 votes

So what is your excuse for the constant reworks to a champion who, at the time of his rework release, was not in a terrible spot. Ryze before this current rework had an average win and play rate. You say you want to rework champions in much worse spots like Yorick or Galio, yet you still devote time away from these champs and towards a champ which is both in a better spot AND has been reworked the most I have ever seen in my 3 years of league. Can't say much about this rework, haven't seen or played much of it, but seriously, if you want to promise us reworks for other champs, stop reworking champs that are in a perfectly fine spot and focus on the ones that really need it. It feels like you focus on Ryze because faker likes him

GruffKibbles89Jul 18, 20161 votes

Ryse has be jumping from a joke champion [slayer-jinx-unamused] (<-why did they pick that) and a RUN champion summoner 6

GruffKibbles89Jul 18, 20161 votes

Guy says: make ryze more op.

Me [zombie-brand-facepalm] [zombie-brand-mindblown] get out now!

x3x3Jul 18, 20161 votes

he's SO Op

Toxic Meat BallJul 18, 20161 votes

Ryze Looked better the old way plz change him back

The Blue BuffJul 19, 20161 votes

Thoughts on the Rework itself: 9/10, I think it's fantastic, and I'm finally starting to learn Ryze. Wish I knew the new VA though, and his waveclear is a little too stronk.

Other Thoughts: Come on guys, calling Adam Harrington "some guy off the street"? Especially considering that guy off the street was called back to voice Kassadin, Mordekaiser, Shaco, and old Karthus. I really hope you guys have a reasonable explanation, or an apology for that.

GoodwyckJul 19, 20161 votes

It took a while to plug the biggest hole left by writing the league of legends out of league of legends. The existence of rune wars was a huge deal in the lore before the institute of war was formed and made absolutely no sense for a long time after it was no longer canon. I have had very little respect for the lore events in league since then because of that. Several champions still have lore pages that are completely not canon because of that change (lee sin, nocturne, and fiddlesticks). I'll have a lot more respect for the lore when those are fixed.