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Vastaya Q&A

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The ways of the vastaya can be quite a mystery - even a learned gentleman like Eduard Santangelo was perplexed by the strange creatures native to Ionia. We've brought together our own esteemed Narrative scholars from the Worldbuilding and Champ teams to answer your top questions.

Haven’t yet read up on all things vastaya? Then we encourage you to peruse the coverage both on Universe and the Nexus.


What is it about Soraka, Volibear, Alistar, and Trundle that makes them different from the vastaya?

Soraka, Voli, Alistar and Trundle are all different, distinct species. Alistar is a minotaur - a race which likely evolved separate from the vastaya even if they are sometimes confused by outsiders. Trundle a troll. Soraka is something… different, probably associated with Mt. Targon. Volibear is more akin to a primal Freljordian nature spirit/force of nature.

Why did you decide to pick Zed as the enemy of Rakan and Xayah in the promo video?

Our Champion Publishing team chose Zed to show that Rakan and Xayah aren’t totally villains. Their cause leads them to operate in some morally grey areas, but they ultimately seek a noble goal. Zed corrupting vastayan wild magic with his shadow powers was a clear way to show what Xayah and Rakan stood against.

Does most or all magic on Runeterra derive from the spirit world?

There are a number of different sources for magic in Runeterra, from a realm we would call a ‘spirit world’ to Hextech and beyond. Often it depends on the area you’re talking about. For example, though the kind of magic you mention is most intense and noticeable in Ionia, it intersects with Runeterra in many ways. Then compare the magic of Shurima, Targon, etc. and you start to see a variety of types of magic.

How did Xayah and Rakan meet and fall in love with each other?

Xayah and Rakan were instantly smitten with each other. Give or take several months of chagrin and adventure. In all seriousness, read Xayah and Rakan’s bios and color texts for the full story!

Do bird vastaya like Xayah and Rakan lay eggs?

I’ll be struggling to get that image out of my head for a couple of days, but no, they don’t.

Are Nidalee and Udyr considered vastaya or is their blood too diluted?

They are not considered vastaya, but they do have some vastayan blood.

Are the vastaya not commonly known in Runeterra?

Not many regular people in Runeterra have seen them, but those who have are unlikely to have tied together all the various tribes and their sources. Perhaps the work of Eduard Santangelo might begin to change things? If folks take him seriously (he is a bit of a bragard).

Do the vastaya have any relation to the yordles?

No, they are very different entities.

What is the pact that the vastaya and Ionian people have with each other?

This will be revealed at a later date, but it is a very old treaty between specific tribes of Ionian vastaya and humans that deals with sharing magic.

How did Xayah and Rakan become who they are now?

Rakan is a battle dancer. He has been training in those skills—combining performance with warfare—his whole life. Xayah is a natural fighter who has been honed through combat.

Do the vastaya have a religion? If so, what's it like?

They are close to the spirit world. They do not have an organized religion, they pay respects to the various nature spirits and spirit animals, but have a much closer relationship than human shamans do.

Was it the destruction of the God-Willow by Ivern that caused the vastaya to lose magic and spread across Runeterra?

No. But it didn’t make them very happy.

How did you decide which champions are vastayan and which aren't?

Overall, the vastayan race was created as a concept champions could use as we move forward, both in creating new characters and to help unify certain elements of Runeterra. The exact nature of each creature in our IP was not exhaustively determined from the outset, giving teams like Worldbuilding and ChampUp room to explore.

Can vastaya of different tribes reproduce?

Absolutely. Tribes like the Sodjoko are made up of various tribes coming together. What a child would look like would depend on the parents, the nature and amount of magic the child grew up near, the customs of the tribe it grew up in, and the child’s own personality - especially its connection to the various animal spirits.

Are all shapeshifting champions vastaya?

Not all animal based champions are vastaya. Ascended champions, from Shurima, for example, are not of vastayan blood or magic. See other answers for which champions are confirmed vastaya or not.

Can we expect more vastaya in the future?

We have no immediate plans for any more vastaya, but it’s definitely not been ruled out. We have other areas of Runeterra to explore and create new champs. I’m sure we’ll make our way back to the vastaya at some point in the future.

What makes a vastaya and a magical creature different from one another?

There are many types of magical creatures. Many have no connection with the vastaya or vastayasha’rei (the proto-vastaya). There are even other creatures descended from the vastayasha’rei who are effectively unrelated to vastaya. Vastaya have a human ancestor and a vastayasha’rei ancestor. There is a logic underlying most of these creatures, but having a similar system ≠ similar species.

How many generations does it take to dilute vastayan blood?

A few generations of mingling with other creatures, for sure. I mean, look at evolution. It’s a slow process.

Does the rebellion consist of only Xayah and Rakan?

Currently it is only Xayah and Rakan, but who knows what will happen when and if Coll can rally some other Lhotlan to her side. There is a growing sentiment and displeasure with the human behavior in the Ionian vastaya however.

Why is there a rebellion? Is Zed doing something with magic that affects the vastaya and are they dying as a result?

Not dying, but magical essence sustains their continued existence. The less magic there is, the fewer resources there are to support vastayan life and tradition. Other humans tap into or twist up the same magic source that the Lhotlan vastaya need to survive. This is not necessarily a moral thing, good people do bad things for good reasons, unaware of the consequences it causes others. Zed and his people are unknowingly or uncaringly accelerating the drain of the magical energy though they are absolutely not alone in doing this. This is aggravating the growing tension between humans and some vastayan tribes in Ionia - and directly violates the agreements that were forged between species.

Wouldn't a human & vastaya coupling be considered immoral to other humans and vastaya?

It may seem immoral and unnatural to some, but not to everyone. Runeterra is a place with many cultures.

Why does Xayah sound prejudiced against yordles?

Xayah thinks people confuse yordles for Vastaya as they are all lumped together as “magical creatures.” Not really prejudiced to race, though she also doesn’t like the yordles’ association with humans, and the magic of human ideals.

If the vastaya and Ionia are connected how is it that there are vastaya in Shurima and in the ocean near Mount Targon? How does that work? Is it migration?

While most vastaya need a supply of magic to thrive - they don’t need massive amounts of it and can go extended periods without magic (think of humans’ relationship to water). Vastaya tend to settle near the “springs” where magic comes into our world or near the invisible “streams” of magic that flow from these springs and snake through the world (comparable to ley lines). They can travel beyond though, just as we humans don't all have to constantly live near fresh water rivers.

Xayah’s interaction with Nami says: “We asked you to join us” and “You’re the only one to blame”. What is the Tidecaller’s relation with Xayah & Rakan, why did she refuse to join them, and what is she being blamed for?

Nothing specific, really. It’s hinting at the general feeling Xayah and Rakan have when they have to fight ANY other vastaya. Nobody likes infighting.

Why isn't Nidalee considered part of the Vastaya?

As we've mentioned, Nidalee’s ancestry is too diluted to be considered a true vastaya. Similarly, Udyr is not a true vastaya, because though he can access the power of many animal spirits, he cannot truly change into their forms.

Why the name "vastaya"? What makes them similar? Why was there a need to create the vastaya? Where do you get ideas for new species? Is there some sort of test to check if it's going to work?

The vastaya name was originally created with several goals: it should feel exotic, Ionian, and lyrical. For more details on the rest of this question, check out the /dev “On Vastaya Evolution.”

Do the vastaya have a leader, or a hierarchy? Or an entity?

Within certain tribes they do, but not uniformly, and not across the entire species. Rakan is the best though, according to him. And maybe Xayah on days he can actually remember her plans.

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There's still more to be discovered in the wilds of Runeterra - but we hope for now your curiosity has been sated!

216 Comments

Moonboy6548 votes

How old is Ahri? Why does Xayah say she betrayed her Heritage? How did Ahri and Wukong become friends?

Legåcy17 votes

Yes we need to knowAhri

Dubachii7 votes

I'm guessing in her attempt to be more humanoid, even though humans are the enemy of there species. and that's the betrayal

Monkeytender16 votes

Does Ahri still want to become human? It isn't outright stated in her bio or either of her stories but Xayah's interactions with her could lead to that interpretation.

P.S. Just wanna say I love absolutely everything about Nami's new bio and story, really knocked it out of the park with that one.

Fairyfleur2 votes

I think it was said in her lore that she wanted to become something better, but not necessarily human. Don't take my word on that though.

Shabada641 votes

Ahri WAS a human, and she regrets having to eat people's souls, but there is nothing taht hints to her wishing to revert back to a human.

Monkeytender3 votes

No I don't think that's right. I'm pretty sure vastaya are vastaya from the minute they're born, I don't think they start out as human and then become animal people.

tamaya14 votes

I love LOL's story. So I wish for such a plan many times!

I want to ask this question in Demacia Q&A "How did Lucian and Senna meet and fall in love with each other?" [slayer-jinx-catface]

Delta Shizu14 votes

So wait, what's the deal with Swain? There is dialogue for him but they only refer to him with vastaya blood?Swain

Otarie534 votes

to be continued in the noxus event.

Gromplestiltskin2 votes

I hope he sacrificed a vastaya for his powers. Or trapped one and draws from its power. Something dark.

Devjinn10 votes

Why does Nami have breasts, Fish don't need to breast feed. They lay eggs, [zombie-brand-facepalm] Please hire an Oceanography.

Otarie5328 votes

she's not a fish...

Terozu8 votes

I know the reason for this! Vastaya are a fusion between humans, and animals, with a spirit as the catalyst, the reason is that at one point, they were part human, and adaptation hasn't kicked out the mammaries yet, it's possible even that they're more like platypus'!

Dubachii6 votes

they were made from bestiality!

Cinnamonpicture15 votes

"an Oceanography"

4th Chiming Lamb21 votes

*Marine biologist [zombie-brand-facepalm]

And Vastaya, as stated above, give live birth. Those breasts will useful if Nami ever has children.

TyrekGoldenspear7 votes

I don't know why, but that egg question was a burning question I didn't know I needed the answer to.

Legåcy6 votes

Is ahri evil?

HonestJohnTheCon14 votes

Maybe not straight-up EVIL, as she hates herself for what she does. Definitely morally questionable though.

QtubeINC5 votes

Are you ever going to bring back the Darkin? It seems like riot has just forgotten about them.

Cyborg Scorpion5 votes

They've actually mentioned that the Darkin have not been forgotten, but they've got a lot of work to do with different champion updates like with yorick, warwick, Galio, and to be revealed this year, Urgot. Its not a matter of them forgetting about them, its making sure that lore updates come out with the champion updates or champion reveals.

smile9165 votes

I want to learn something about Sona's lore. We know very little about her past or why her instrument is so special.

Phoenixs Fury2 votes

There was an update to Sona's lore a while back, I can't remember where to find it though. I do remember it went into detail about how she was left at an orphanage in Ionia, and the instrument was with her. As she grew the people who ran the orphanage realized she couldn't speak and that the instrument would find its way back to her if they were separated. It was long and rather complex, I'll post a link if I find one.

Phoenixs Fury3 votes

Actually the bottom of this page (http://gameinfo.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/champions/sona/#champion-lore) is apparently what I was thinking about hope this helps.

teemo my wife5 votes

I read this and I was relieved that Zed also not a complete bad guy.

Terozu1 votes

Ummm what? He wants to kill all non shadow ninjas and according to this he almost definitely knows that his shadow magic is hurting wild magic, he just give a fuck.

ZedUsanGovos5 votes

False. He doesn't want to kill non-shadow ninjas. He has a temporary truce with Shen, Kennen, Akali, and the rest of the Kinkou. He simply wants others to follow in the path of the Shadow, or alternatively "die in darkness", He doesn't say "Oh, you aren't shad0w man, u ded LUL". He gives them the choice of learning the "truth" or dying in the darkness of ignorance. Zed's relationship with the Vastaya, on the other hand, is completely morally questionable. As according to Rakan, he "messed with Xayah", most likely trying to steal her magic following the events of the latest cinematic (the name of which I've completely forgotten because I'm a scrub). But in terms of his relationship with other Clans or ninjas, or Ionians in general, Zed only kills those who threaten his Order or his land (in this case, Jhin and Noxus), but to kill Jhin, he needs Shen's help and vice versa. His Order was also noted fighting in the Noxian-Ionian War, along side the Wuju Masters (pre-Singed), Yasuo's clan, and the Kinkou. Yes this post is biased. But that's beyond the point. Just because Zed is painted to be a bad-guy, doesn't mean he's a "bad guy". "Ignorance is fatal". Inb4 someone points out Master Kusho's death and the slaughter of the students, we don't really know what went down in the Temple to cause Zed to do that. Zed just wanted his box, but Kusho had to fuck things up somehow.

acher of fire13 votes

He is.

IamHuuVan1 votes

Read the story of Jhin on the wiki, Zed is not completely bad.

Anakslumos2 votes

Isn't Jhin schizophrenic though? I figured he doesn't understand the line between his fantasies and reality and doesn't see value in life because of it.

Conalll5 votes

"Volibear is more akin to a primal Freljordian nature spirit/force of nature."

So why is Rengar a Vastaya? Seems to me like he's much like Voli, his own creature separate from the Vastaya. Wukong, Nami, Ahri (despite her origin), these feel like Vastaya. Rengar... he's an anthro lion/tiger being, much as Voli is an anthro bear. He just doesn't feel like he fits the mold to me. Not enough human in him.

Shabada642 votes

True he isn't much human, but he is part of an Ionian tribe, the Khiilash, and he is closely tied to the nature magics like the other Vastaya (according to his lore). I think this is enough proof.

LaWolfieIsLost3 votes

I have a question. What about Kindred, do the Vastaya still follow they're rules or are they specific to humans only? Further on what about the other races of Runeterra? Kindred ~Sincerely Someone who loves Kindred's lore and doesn't want them to be forgotten.

ZedUsanGovos2 votes

Kindred isn't really of Runeterran origin, to my knowledge. They're basically the physical embodiment of Death, and have no relation to any of the regions or species (Voidborn, Vastaya, Ascended, etc.) but, they MIGHT have something to do with the Shadow Isles, but I highly doubt it. Like ASol being the B00p Darg0n of Universe Making, Brad being the Mystical Chimer who Chimes, Nocturne being the Sp00py Dream Gh0st, and Kalista being the Gh0st Revengance Lady, Kindred is a more otherworldly being with the physical embodiment of a certain force. We have the Merciful and quick death (Lamb), and a Merciless and vicious death (Wolf).

MsKatlyn2 votes

I loved the thread but i have 1 question; What is your current thoughts on Rengar this patch? He is sitting on a 43% win rate, I feel like you guys just threw this rework at us and not really put much time into his kit. Riot I'm being serious, you guys took a step backwards, not a step forward.

Instead of 'reworking' Rengar Why don't you just scrap his whole kit and make a whole completely new design? He's honestly so fun to play that it sucks just seeing the champion i've once loved is being gutted to shit. (Excuse me for language) But in all seriousness, this new Rengar is clunky, it feels like it was rushed. When the rework was announced I was so excited but as soon as I played him, I was so disappointed. The Q ability is really what gets me, it seems like Riot was going into a direction where he's a 'bruiser'. Well I know you guys were, I heard Ghostcrawler say it in a interview. I've honestly drawed away from League because the way this rework has put Rengars stats to shit. I got almost 1 mil mastery on him, ( http://championmasterylookup.derpthemeus.com/summoner/?summoner=MsKatlyn&region=NA)

But for now, I don't wanna play him anymore. This isn't a rant this is asking to not have a repeat of the old Rengar. He has counterplay. I promise.

Kairoptra20 votes

This is a lore Q & A, not patch notes. If you want to put this in a place where it's appropriate (and I hope you do), put it on the boards or wait until next week's patch notes.

MsKatlyn5 votes

Yes I realized this and I'm sorry, I posted this comment when there was no other comments, and I was thinking to myself is this the right place?

Kairoptra7 votes

It's really good that you realized that. I'm honestly really relieved that you replied like this, considering what's to be expected from the community. Thank you for renewing my faith in them.

fatcat441014 votes

Correction - his win rate is 45.98%, which isn't that bad. You shouldn't blame riot for your inability to play a champion.

fijicider2 votes

rengar top try it

MsKatlyn2 votes

I have, its alright but can easily be shut down by a tank or if you're ganked early a lot.

I7A6X2v21 votes

What about Azir Nasus Renekton ?

acher of fire

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Inting Pillow11 votes

Azir is an ascendant

SuperHotDad1 votes

This question is for Marc Merill. Will we see any other races of humans apart from white, and black people? I've seen Overwatch bring a hispanic character into light; is it possible that you may bring someone that is Indian, Native American, etcetera.

FullMetal2763 votes

They did her name is Taliyah

ChuShoe4 votes

LeeSin Karma Lulu XinZhao Udyr Taliyah Sivir Illaoi Shyvana Nidalee

It's strange, not only does league have what you're asking, it also has fictional races that are included as well.

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