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Balance Team Q&A 10/16

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If you’re the type that loves design discussions about LoL, we’ve got you covered. For the month of October, the Balance Team’s hosting weekly Q+A’s starting at 12:30 PM PDT on 10/16! The folks behind the tweaking and tuning of League of Legends will be on hand to answer your questions, swap stories and share insights on the state of the game!

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PantsGuy77744 votes

Graves needs his cigar back Graves

Ays5 votes

His lungs are too dark, and made somebody look bad Nocturne

pjthemadgamer41 votes

Can you guys please add a little gadget where we could check our ping before we get in game so we know whether or not we have to reset our routers? Thanks!

DarDar7 votes

this can be checked by simply using 3 extra minutes, and going into a custom game, but I agree this would be helpful and save time if we we had said gadget

its me ashley4 votes

Well going into a custom game doesn't give you a very accurate reading, becuase you're the only one in the game and you are the host so it reduces your ping by about 25-50

Vinbullet8 votes

ummm..... Are you high? This isn't COD, there isn't any "host" of the game. This is a server-run game, it runs entirely on servers. A custom game is an exact test of what your ping is, cause in case you didn't notice, you can't play custom's offline.

ExportSodas32 votes

Can we just all agree we need URF as a permanent mode in League of Legends.

Urf god, we miss you item 3070 item 3070

big arms16 votes

why do all new/reworked champs have some weird minigame?

bard chimes kindred things garen justice dominion skarner pillars morde dragon

are minigames really becoming valid ways to balance champions?

Fluffeh Pimp1 votes

I thought the skarner pillars were only a "battlecast" thing? I could be totally wrong

Axxlon8 votes

Hell no. o_O If the pillar mechanics were only secluded to his Battlecast skin, then that would be a compromise of Riot's own mantra that they've held for 5-some years.

CIickTheLantern3 votes

I havent really looked into the number of this, but what if morde actually had to ULT the dragon to get the ghost. Although i do appreciate that he cant have both an enemy and dragon ghost at the same time, just tapping the dragon as your team kills it to turn a teamfight into a 6-7v5 (depending on the stage of the game) seems a little overboard

SentientSword14 votes

WHO THOUGHT THE JUGGERNAUTS WERE A GOOD IDEA?!

morlocked4 votes

I thought juggernauts was great it wasn't like they where crazy op.

CrustyShockSock12 votes

More like a taric or yorick rework.

Ralanr12 votes

A message to the balance team: Bring an umbrella and an air freshener. You will need it.

I PREACHER I8 votes

inb4 no one gets that you are warning them of a shit storm lol

Desponded8 votes

I'm sure there are 1,000's of people complaining about the Dunkmaster, but my question is, and not a complaint, just a balance question; Is it possible for him to do Darius things without being able to deal 34% health in true damage at level 6? With his bleed stacks already causing a harass issue with melee laners, as soon as he hits 6, there becomes a huge lack in counter play. Ranged champions become vulnerable to his pull if landed properly, killing them quite efficiently, and there seems to be no true "counter" to Darius because of his ability to become a Duelist, Tank, or "Assassin" (mobility and dunk low health targets). Thoughts???

Pythonius6 votes

Most recent patch nerfed slow, and the keyword is IF he lands a pull. Save yo flashes and hide your kids, hide your wife, cuz he dunking everyone all up in here!

Yogibear12155 votes

i think Darius really needs a nerf playing an assasin versus Darius is R.I.P for you. his q does 5.96 million damage and the bleeding makes it worse. he pulls you in and 1 auto attack or ulti kills you. he will earn his ulti back after he kills you. any thoughts???

Herclitus2 votes

I don't really know the extensive matchups in top lane but mobility beats darius hard. Maybe the point is the meta needs to shift to accept things like Ahri top. I think their recent nerf to his blade width (the effective heal-zone of his Q) is in the right direction. I'm no dia-challenjour player, but I can tell you that I can beat Darius hard early to mid game with people like Riven. At first I was shellshocked with no idea how to beat his kit, but then it occurred to me. If I E into him instead of trying to avoid the Q, I'm denying what he expects will be a heal. I've also seen junglers who tower dived Darius effectively flash out of his Q-heal zone.

You just need to understand the nature of the damage and how to beat it. Darius is a sustained damage dealer. The reason why Riven can (not necessarily, but CAN) beat him is because (with proper animation cancellation) she's got a burst loaded kit. You can get in, unload 80-90% of your trade damage and be out by the time darius lands 3 stacks.

Without his stacks, the dunkmaster's kit would essentially be useless. A 1 second 40% slow (just got nerfed), a little thing that unreliably heals him a bit, and something that minorly displaces people. Even if you just gave him the full true damage of his ult as front end damage, he would basically be a worse and slower version of Garen. Garen's W and E > Darius' entire kit without his bleed stacks.

Smooth Zeek7 votes

Why was Janna's Howling Gale Base range reduced to 850 from 1100? Was this intended so that it couldn't be used offensively as easily? I understand at 1100 you could stop nearly anything coming your way, but at 850 it's more complicated W-Q when in pursuit of an enemy.

Yuta Katsu5 votes

It's sad. Janna has been nerfed multiple times for no reason. Darius and Morde, however, have not been touched. I don't understand the logic behind Riot's Balance Team.

guildragon16 votes

Graves needs his cigar back Graves

Just Spaghetti6 votes

Do you believe Twitch is a balanced champion? He's been my favorite champ since I've started playing but he feels very weak and is very difficult compared to other ADCs. Will there be a drastic change in all marksmen coming soon?

Satan9995 votes

I agree with you CoolGuyWithFries twitch is very weak compared with this crack headJinx

nnamreiL5 votes

Rework Mordekaiser so the dragon doesnt deal full damage cause that is op as hell

get flayed lol5 votes

support item buffs for gold?

SneakyLeeky5 votes

Darius Nudge Nudge

Yuta Katsu5 votes

Darius and Morde are unbalanced, period. Group Stage Day 8, Fnatic Vs AHQ, Morde has been banned 89.6% and GP has been banned 91.7% during Worlds. And we see Darius getting Pentas.

Instead of nerfing Darius, Morde, and GP, Riot decides to nerf Janna multiple times. Riot even uses a picture of Janna for the upcoming Q+A. What a joke!

viator4575 votes

QUIT MESSING WITH Janna !!!!! and don't you dare touch Amumu either!! your taking Janna and ruining her, yet Darius and Garen remain op as @#$%... And Ashe is unbalanced too..

ModKagenoOu5 votes

。。。wait... theres a balance team?!

hiddenghost554 votes

shaco rework pls ;-;

MyNameIsMurder7 votes

no. shaco is the one champ that needs to be left alone.

NIKETAS1184 votes

plz god no his kit works perfectly for the way shaco is supposed to be played

Thyroidblender4 votes

How do you all feel about Sion ? I am fairly new at the game so take what I say with a grain of salt, but I think he could use a slight base melee attack boost. Or possibly reduce the charge time of his Q? Thoughts?

Alientcp7 votes

All champions are supposed to have weaknesses, As it is, Sion is stronger against slow or immobile champs, but is weak against mobile ones.

Hard to explain in short but ill try. Sion is not a fighter, its a caster tank (like maokai or ryze). If you buff his AA, he will efectively become a duelist, caster tank, Since he is a bully, most champions that are already weak to sion will become unplayable due to him not being as vulnerable when you miss a q. There will be no counterplay.

If you buff the q cast time, effective champions (such as riven, fiora, gnar and mobile marksmen) will also be less effective, thus ending with a very overpowered top laner who wont need juggernaut to roflstomp.

BarbieRitz4 votes

where is the poppy rework! im really excited for it. pls Riot give it to me Poppy

Eggplantosphere4 votes

Any Opinions on Kennen ? He's a very good flex pick, but I feel like his only role on a team is stuns, with no lane to call home. This may be good, but I guess it just feels like he has place to call his.

Gÿato4 votes

How about Lowering the 1,000 base damage you already have on Garen and Darius to about 10 considering Darius has a 90% slow and insane heal ability and Garen has an infinite silence and the spins

2Ashes1Chalice9 votes

How about you learn to play gnar?

Godaren14 votes

Funny how they counter pick darius at worlds every game with the best top laners in the game and he still wins more then 50% lol "just counterpick him lol"

Eyezick4 votes

Why does no one play yorick even though he is such a fucking god

Morgsack3 votes

Yorick is great in lane, but transferring it to late game and team fights is really hard. It is what I find when I play him.

MyTeamIsAwsome4 votes

I think the real problem with garen is the health regen he got with his passive. I played alot of garen and since the passive switch to 1% hp regen to#3 % hp regen. He have to much substain in lane and when he reach 3000 health with warmog and sprit visage he can regen up to 115 health per second while out of combat. This shouldnt be allowed because he dont even need to recall after a fight since he just regen all is 5k health back in 10 seconds. Moral of the story... You should bring back the garen passive to 1% so he could be balanced.

Axxlon4 votes

Let's talk about how Garen and Darius can't truly be reliably stopped (hint: item 3742) without this cancerous little nancy

item 3025 Ezreal

FireMario43 votes

make garen and darius weaker please Bard

Forsaken Phantom2 votes

What in your opinion is the most overpowered champion and what is the most under rated "hidden op" champion.

Shiftur4 votes

most overpowered is Mordekaiser hiddden op is Poppy devourer that my opinion

Queol2 votes

"Garen may do a lot of damage, but he is immobile." item 3742 item 1306 item 3071 Kappa.

ßubl2 votes

Imma speak my mind, since that's what this is for and I played all the juggernauts (yeah, even Skarner) way before they were cool.

Alright, so let's do this.

Darius - In my opinion, he was a little weak before. Sure early game and squishies got smashed, but then he really couldn't do that much. The only thing I like that they did to Darius was his new passive, since getting all 5 stacks off every champion was kind of a pain, and the ult-minion-fear-thing because I think it's hilarious. However, his hook getting a slow was unneeded, his Q healing was okay (but I think it heals way too much AND it now has a cast time so his old combo no longer works) and his passive giving him so much bonus AD is ridiculous.

Garen - I think his fine, actually. He needed something, anything to boost him in game, and now he targets people who last got the kill, who might be really fed, so he can do true damage. However, I do think he does a little too much and maybe instead could do, like, less or bonus AD or some random magic damage (idfk).

Morde - Eh, his Q does a metric shit-ton of damage on third proq, but other than that I think he's fine. He's back in the meta with a brand new kit (ish) and has a Dragon. He just builds weird and goes bot or whatever now...

Skarner (And this rework is actually my least favorite) - So, the new passive is kind of stupid. Not in the broken way, in the bad way. His old passive made much more sense (and not his old OLD passive or his old old OLD passive, cause Bard knows how many passives he went through) hitting them with damaging abilities to then stun em for a time. Now, his E proqs his old passive alone, slows more, and his Q is basically just for some little bit more damage. His W is, well, there, and his Ult is the only thing I liked that they changed, since now he gets move-speed and can run away with someone (which is why everyone had something to give them move-speed before, like Talisman or Yomuu's or something random). But his Dominion is silly. It's very situational, so unless you fight in that space AND the enemy team hasn't captured it, you basically run out of mana and can't really anything. Sure it's a unique passive they gives him a unique play-style or whatever, but really, he already is unique, considering he's a Scorpion from an extinct race that can move a champion at his will with one button.

That's my two cents, fam.

And Graves cigar joke, blablabla.

~Bubbles

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