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PBE Livestream: Kayn, today at 2PM Pacific

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Join Kayn’s designers Riot Scruffy and Riot Tokkelossie starting at 2 PM Pacific Time on June 27, 2017, for Q&A and a live PBE demo of Kayn’s gameplay. Leave your questions, memes, and dreams in the comments below so we can address them during the stream!


You can also watch the stream directly or check out past VODs on the League Twitch channel.

131 Comments

Cosmic Monarch31 votes

shen teleporting Kayn ult

Kayn(singing):I'M GOING OFF THE RAILS ON A NINJA TRAIN

Plague242716 votes

Thresh I'm making it clear now, if you are infested you are NOT getting my lantern.

EROTIC RAID BOSS3 votes

lol what? if theyre infested 100% lantern them and drag him into your whole team where he'll immediately die

SaveToTheADrive5 votes

If he's in blue form, sure - but if he's in red form and fed, that might not be a great idea.

BLACK REALM GOD10 votes

How does enemy vision interact with the champions ability to walk through terrain?

ZaneShadow2 votes

that is a really good point. I think they can see him but not sure

SneakyKatanaMan6 votes

He is the actual son of chaos and order,the versus event is the divorce.Is he going to get a chaos and order skin combined into one?

derpychocolate216 votes

HE IS THE VICTOR'S EMBLEM O-O

Darkened Wolf82 votes

I'd kill for this to be true haha. Also, @SneakyKatanaMan, I had the same thought about the Vs. event, what a funny thing that he got revealed during the Vs. event. It would be a pretty cool skin, to be honest. I wonder how the alt forms would look like/be like compared to each other.

ConradXIV5 votes

Well, Riot Groovylord said he wanted a new character wielding a scythe and now he's got one.

Feather Reformed1 votes

item 3070 Fiddlesticks

Darkened Wolf83 votes

Fiddlesticks doesn't have a scythe, he has a sickle haha. Quite small one indeed, and doesn't even use it physically lol.

Aoi is Blue5 votes

How does Kayn's ult interact with things such as Zhonya's or Vlad's blood pool?

C9 Xeno5 votes

Aatrox Hey Zed, wanna netflix and chill? Zed Sure

---9 months later--- Aatrox What a broken ass baby

CaptainSloth4 votes

could kayn be still viable in other roles as a tank or full ad assassin mid lane? I don't like playing jungle as a role in general

ÒwÓ Gazathor4 votes

I want to know how the passive will decide what kind of stack you get from killing like Gnar or Jacye since they're ranged and melee

SadKill6 votes

probably on the form they're in when killed.

Vhan87654 votes

This livestream has been amazing; it was up for a full 15 minutes before breaking. :D

Runerin2 votes

Actually, even better, it was broken from the start, and shut down after 15 minutes of Ekko.

DocPsycho3 votes

From the sounds of it you can transform as need be (switch between the Darkin mode and the Shadow Assasin). What's the CD on that? Will it have a longer reset between switching when you die as the version? Like if the Darkin side dies and you respawn will the Darkin version be unavailable for a set time?

andrea6 votes

It seems like you start in a base form, then have to pick one of the 2 forms for a single transformation that you keep for the rest of the game. He builds up stacks for one of the two forms based on the type of champions he's killing, and the champ reveal mentions needing to get enough kills to transform by midgame or else he'll fall behind. So even if he can change more than once, it sounds like it takes a decent amount of snowballing to get that option.

SonicFlyht2 votes

Yes. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/champion-reveal-kayn Watch the video for the passive, you can see cooldowns on character portrait that you click to transform.

SadKill3 votes

It looks like they have a cd and killing champs and getting the blue or red souls reduce the cd of that side respectively. Once you choose, that choice seems final.

So let's say each transformation starts at a base cooldown of 20 minutes and as you kill ranged champions and collect blue souls (red for melee champs) it reduces that one transformation's cooldown by say 10 seconds per soul collected.

I don't know the actual values but that's an example of how I think it's going to work.

Me Play RIven3 votes

I like the transforming idea however my issue is that one form may become more viable than the other causing people to only use that form or are you planning to find a way to prevent that from happening

ÂFRÏCÂN GØD3 votes

YEA, ITS CALLED PERSONAL PREF. NOT EVERYONE IS A META SLAVE OR ONLY PLAYING VIABLE CHAMPS. THERE ARE PPL WHO LOVE TO GO AGAINST THE GRAIN N PLAY CHAMPS AND/OR BUILDS THAT OTHERS DONT PLAY OR CARE TO PLAY. ALTHOUGH ONE FORM MAY SEEM MORE VIABLE THAN THE OTHERS.. CERTAIN ELO'S WILL REQUIRE THE SUMMONER TO PICK THE FORM THAT BEST COMPLIMENTS WHAT THE TEAM NEEDS, NOT JUST WHICH ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER.

Wewdy1 votes

I agree with what you're saying but not the way you are saying it....relax man.

ÂFRÏCÂN GØD1 votes

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l Vrael l1 votes

Its called Caps locks. Stop. Using. It.

Zo1dberg3 votes

Okay, so i had just recently switched my main role from jungle to mid because i was finding more success. Kayn is an assassin and assassins can be played mid lane, so i was wondering if he could still be viable there? His kit looks like it could favor a jungler, or a roaming mid laner (similar to katarina's roaming potential). I would like to know other's opinions on this. plz discuss my topic.item 3089

SmokeDragon3 votes

Oh boy theres gonna be so much insane stuff with his ult. Like what if he ults someone andKalista ults. Can he dodge "skill shots" when he ults? Karthus Can he dodge that with his ult. Thresh I think you get the idea here.

Variks the Loyal2 votes

The answer is 'yes.' Generally. Untargetability is not a new mechanic. Zed, Fizz, Vladimir, Rek'Sai, Xayah, and Camille can all use it to avoid skillshots and abilities like Karthus' ult. In the case of Zed and Rek'Sai, they leave the map entirely, similarly to how Kayn does. This ult should be no different.

Also, if he ults someone, and that person gets consumed by Kalista or Tahm Kench, is safe to assume the ult will run it's course without doing damage to the consumed target.

Darkened Wolf83 votes

AMAZING! I love this character's theme and idea and gameplay and appearance and EVERYTHING ! He definitely looks like someone I'd main, and my type of champion. I love how he dashes, I love his shadow travel ability (Shade Step), I love how original his skillset is, I love how you can adapt with the passive, I love jungling, and I'd love getting those delicious ganks with Shade Step, just jumping out of a wall at the enemy. I love how his aesthetics change with his passive, too. I love how his abilities also have adjustments to them with his passive, and I absolutely ADORE that he has a scythe. I imagine that his dialoge will have him speaking to the scythe and vice-versa, and that his voice changes a bit perhaps depending on the form. I love absolutely everything about this champion. I don't care how hard he is, I will probably main him until I master him and get some good plays. Scythes are my favorite kind of weapon, and we finally get a scythe-weilding champion, plus, it's sentient! I love this so much! Riot totally nailed it with this guy.

Rolling Girl2 votes

So when I heard that the next champion was going to be a "transforming" character, I was expecting more akin to Rek'Sai or Jayce. Instead he seems to evolve in a manner more like Kha'Zix or Viktor but turned up to 11. Why the decision to go this route as opposed to reversible in-combat transformations?

Shapeshift2 votes

Do you think he might be played in roles other than jungle (which it was said in the teaser was supposed to be his main role) viably? And, follow up, if so, do you plan on nerfing mid/top/adc kayn into unviability?

Variks the Loyal2 votes

Riot doesn't nerf alternative routes for champions so long as they don't become oppressive. Examples:

Sion Support proved to be a healthy and viable alternative, when Sion Top or Jungle was his intended role.

Ekko Top proved to be far too reliable and oppressive compared to his intended role in mid, so Riot had to nerf it.

IegendUnknown2 votes

best undodgable point and click ult w00t [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

JTF5442 votes

wtf's the upside to playing shadow assassin?

sure that percent health chunk when you first start fighting them but you'd probably do a good ammount of damage anyway without it. Wouldnt it be better to just play him bruiser style and get a shit ton of free lifesteal on top of your lifesteal already and the ult acting like a better ekko ult, with a percent health chunk on both q and ult with a bit of cc?

TheNineTailedGod2 votes

My New One Trick.

OhNekro1 votes

Top laner/Jungler? Rip Kayn, Yasuo and Zed ult combo If he kills a mage would he get Shadow orbs or just Darkin orbs?

LukaSong2 votes

The type of orb he gets depends on wether the target's auto attacks are ranged or melee.

AwesomeGuyDj2 votes

mages should give shadows orbs (their ranged afterall)

derpychocolate211 votes

rito, I like the whole "going through walls" and "percentage of hp as damage" and everything else this guy has, but did you really need to call him Kayn when he can be his scythe?

Bard R Friday1 votes

He becomes Rhaast once transformed into a Darkin.

derpychocolate211 votes

but does it his name in the post game lobby/stats?

sorry i like making pointless questions

XxAlibasterxX1 votes

all i want to know is how much ip is going to cost

Yeetus Laskeetus2 votes

I'd assume 7800 for the first week~ then 6300 after. Like every new release for the past forever.

ducs1 votes

What would happen if he zhonyas during his wall walk?

OKE Chance1 votes

Did they ever get this to work again? Or did our time get wasted? xD

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