Patch 8.18 Notes

There's just honestly no point in playing Sejuani anymore. Proplay can seriously ruin so much when it comes to playing one of your favorite champions.

I'll only start playing her back if you guys promise to buff her back after Worlds ends.

Like the changes on . Generally, it would be nice to see more quality of life improvements for less popular champions compared to the total annihilation of we have on this patch.

Fixing nothing that needs fixing again, must be Riot balancing team!

[sg-miss-fortune]

I guess if you want to climb in SoloQ it will forever and always have to be before the month leading up to Worlds. Seriously though? What you did to Sej and the explanation? The cooldown nerf on her dash was somewhat extreme as it was but to do all this because...what? If she was played in the pro scene it wasn't because she was anything more than a meat-shield, stun-bot. Basically tank Kassadin. I haven't touched Sej but once since the nerf before this but wow do I feel for Sej mains or anyone who liked to break her out once in a while. At this point you should just not only let whoever has her keep her, but refund them the RP or BE they used to get her.

The Trundle change is almost right. Unfortunately you still leave him open to be unstoppable if any game reached a late game. Basically punishing late scaling comps that aren't as undying as he is. And your justification for the nerf (or not nerfing him more?) is due to "something, something, jungle?" What about when he wrecks top lane and then just proceeds to split push whenever he feels like it because it takes more than one person to stop him from taking tier 1 turret and inhib turret in seconds?

Also, nerfing Akali's R. Seriously? You rework this champ, make her nearly impossible to outplay or tank, and then "balancing" her is to lightly breath on her ult? Why even bother touching her at all? This is Zoe all over again except of instead of getting one shot, you just have to leave lane unless either you or the jungler happened to pick after her AND happen to play a counter. Shameful.

Kai'sa. Wow, an actual balance on a new champ? And it took less than 4 months? Color me impressed! This actually makes sense! Instead of her just becoming a monster by reaching a certain level, afk farming, and not needing to actually do anything in the way of winning lane she will have to actually engage during laning phase? And in her own lane? What sorcery is this?! Honestly, this was a good change and makes her a little more tolerable.

Poor Ryze mains. I guess worlds has no bounds to the champions that it will cause to be nerfed into the ground. The nerf before worlds last year to his ult? Good Riot. This nerf to him before worlds? Bad Riot. It isn't hard to just slightly remove some damage ya know. Why go to extreme lengths when buffing and nerfing champs? To be honest, though, I know he will get some of this back (if not all) after worlds. I can't remember the champ off the top of my head but they were nerfed into the ground as well before worlds last year and you simply reverted the changes afterwards.

Other champs I haven't talked about: Meh. Viktor changes? Ok, he needed some love. Maybe not that much but at least it was something positive. Vayne? Well, as a support secondary, I appreciate this buff as it will allow Vayne to be less of a pre-level 6 AFK farm-bot and be able to trade more with somewhat less repercussions. Renek and Aatrox? If what I read hadn't made me laugh I would've probably not been able to prevent myself from raging about this. Four words on them: They. Didn't. Need. Buffs. The Braum change: what? How come you can do small changes on him but basically delete Sej and Ryze with massive changes and buff the heck outta Renek and Aatrox? I'm so confused here.

If you read this, please just take one thing from this: Use what you did to Braum as an example of future nerfs and buffs. Small increments in either direction will be better overall for both the pro and normal communities than just saying "No. You can't play this champion." Honestly, it would've made more sense to just remove Sej and Ryze from the champ pool for worlds than to do what has been done. I can usually play devil's advocate and just go with "Oh, silly Riot. Look at those nerfs/buffs." But honestly, IMHO, you went too far with Sej and Ryze nerfs and Aatrox and Renek buffs.

And if anyone read this far, yeah I know I'm likely to get downvoted. But they're fake internet points that I don't care about. I just wanted to vent my frustrations to Riot just in case they read this.

And STILL no buffs to ...seriously

Hey Riot, I understand nerfing because of pro play but it's very painful for the entire community. I can't remember the last time I saw a Ryze or Sejuani because of all the competitive balancing. If we could get some assurance that changes like this won't be completely forgotten after the worlds patch is set (ie Ryze and Sej get some love after the worlds patch), it would make patches like this much less painful.

Also ODYSSEY HYPE

Bug with ults while your cursor is over the portrait still not fixed? Come on, how many times should I report it. It's very annoying to ult in the direction of your nexus when you accidentally move the cursor over your own portrait.

Im pretty sure its a bug, but when using Teleport, if you click the mini map, and there is a target (such as a tower) underneath the minimap when you click it, it will attempt to teleport you to that tower rather than your target on the mini map

I see Riot is still ignoring the majority of players, or former players since the rework ruined him. Ready for my downvotes though.

Eyyy every change has an appropriately deep explanation! And before anyone starts complaining about nerfs for pro play, you can't expect all your fav picks to be meta all the time... Sometimes you just gotta roll with the nerfs. Take it from a Dedede main in Sm4sh, it's more fun to play a bad character well than a good character poorly. At least there's a chance Sej will be rebuffed later :'v

I really like the changes. I don't like the fact that it kills the clean numbers but I can get over it to have a better early game. Might be getting a little strong but I guess Riot wants to see him at Worlds.

Still, I think we need nerfs for and early game but Riot gunna do what Riot gunna do.

So why the F did they remove the reroll bar in ARAM? I don't see any patch notes about that, and I swear I had seen it over the weekend? Was that some Nexus Blitz crap? If so, that's retarded.

Once again we get to see how pro play really dictates the entire game. is already an ok pick at best but giving her this huge of a nerf completely butchers her solo queue potential. Then the nerf. Honestly that champion needs another rework at this point. He is completely busted in pro play, so he gets so many nerfs, yet he is completely obsolete in solo queue. His R is simply a quick way to throw but in pro play it could be game changing. It's unhealthy for a champion to be so strong for such a small scope of players yet completely trash for everyone else.

buff pantheon please he's trash tier atm especially in the jungle

Seems like a missed opportunity that didn't get a skin for this event. Not only has she needed one for a long time, her personality and visual style seems like it would have been perfect for it.

Still no buffs to kalista... Thanks riot!

Another pro patch burying any interest in the normal games, yawn-a-rama.

Love what you’re doing with Viktor and the cost reduction and all but I have to agree that it really sucks y’all just killed Sejuani. You’re basically giving her the Kalista treatment. Also is there anyway that after worlds you guys can try to focus on making this rarely played, low win rate champ somewhat viable again? You guys did it with Lucian and that’s great cause he’s one of the more fun adcs but after s6 kalista just hasn’t felt the same. Anyway ty for the viktor buffs.

That is great and all, but when will there be a feature where I select a skin or champion in the store and an actual 3-D model of the skin and/or champion?

After this Sej nerf, I'm a little bothered by you guys at Riot. You tell us we (the everyday player) are the reason you're a successful company but you make decisions based on the top 2% of players? It comes across disingenuous and I feel you're ignoring your real customer base.

can't catch a break, he was barely at the low end of the tier list for junglers in all tier lists I checked out and IMMEDIATELY gets shut down by Riot. He's also incredibly easy to counter in any other lane.

Very good idea for the smite auto-select, won't forget my smite this time

Still no HUnter's Talisman fix. Shocker.

With the nerfs to a few jungles, can you guys make Skarner and Reksai a little more... relevant I guess? On a second note... Void born Xerath please!!

definitely can say this... has anyone outside of myself noticed that*[slayer-jinx-catface]* isn't as flat chested in the new skin?

Have played over 10k games of Sejuani and have over 2million mastery on her across all of my accounts. She is unplayable in solo queue this season and I've given up trying. Feels super bad to be incredibly weak and only able to win games if at least one of your teammates that do damage is hyper-competent. Can you please re-work her kit so us non-pros can play the champion too? Understand that she's super strong with the right comp (melee teammates), but you rarely get that in regular ranked play. Seems rough to balance around specific team comps instead of the champion herself. Rito pls?

Request for theme friendly buffs on Shyvana.

Option 1: Add lifesteal vs jg creatures. No impact on clear speed but would improve quality of life and give Shyvana more oppertunities to affect the map earlier in the game rather than forcing her to farm for the first 10 minutes every game.

Option 2: Add a .1 second stun to the Q. Wouldn't affect jg clear speed but would reduce damage taken early game and would give shyvana more opportunities to make plays early game.

Option 3: Buff her passive. from 5/10/15/20/25 to 5/15/30/50/75 total AR/MR on each elemental dragon. The current passive does not reward Shyvana enough for successfully taking dragons. If you manage to take all of the dragons you damn well deserve to be rewarded for it. But it still wouldn't be too outrageous with only 3 dragons taken which is really common in games. There are other champions like veigar, kindread, nasus and chogath who have infinity scaling abilities so why not give Shyvana something to compete with these op monsters.

Shouldn't this be renamed? 1 second does NOT fits the definition of Glacial Prison. When 3 seconds literally felt like forever. Can we settle on 2 seconds?

R - Glacial Prison

STORM EXPLOSION SLOW DURATION : 3 seconds ⇒ 1 second

As a Malphite main for like 8 years now and having him get yet another skin, I'm really, really tired of seeing the same champs get new skins when they have 6-10+ already, not even counting all the chromas to go with them. Ornn, Ivern, Kled...they all have one skin. Many others only have two.

I get that the champs with the most skins are the 'money makers' and all, but Riot is not going to run out of money. And there is plenty of fun stuff you could do as far as animations, unique sounds, etc. with ^ those guys and the others who don't see as much purchasable cosmetic love. Throw the skinless bastards a bone, they're not a pack of chicken breasts.

I don"t watch or care for pro play at all. I can careless if a champion is really strong once you have played so much. I have very limited time to play LoL I do not have 10 hours to pour into league every day i am lucky if i get to play that much on the weekend. You continue to ruin the game nerfing champs around pro play. Sejuani has 45.45% win rate and you nerf her. I am so fucking sick of playing a champion and either you nerifng them around pro play or completely destroying them with reworks. Akali was the best rework that you have done in quite sometime it is only a matter of time before you ax her because some Korean challenger that player plays 8+ hour a day and smashes face with her while us noobs that have jobs and only have a few hours on the weekend to play and that is only if we don't have house work we have to do 44.38%. When are you going to realize your ruining your game for the everyday man that made your game very popular.

It's so sad that smite has to be auto selected for junglers meaning a lot of players have absolutely zero awareness the moment they get into champ select, those careless players that don't leave fountain until minions start spawning