Preseason Begins November 8th

Riot·Nov 3, 2017·6 votes·66,894 views

Preseason is coming in just a few days.

Get ready to experiment with powerful new runes, discover new playstyles, and level to infinity. Check out this preseason page to see all the features arriving November 8th.

The Runes Reforged update in particular is a massive change, and shipping it is really just the beginning. We know there will still be a lot to accomplish, especially with all the extra feedback we’ll get once everyone is playing with the new Runes. Along with normal balance work, bug fixing, clarity improvements, and polish, we’ll have to pay close attention to see which champions are struggling in the initial release. We’ll work diligently to add, retouch, and replace runes as we discover the most pressing needs brought by the new system.

Over the course of many upcoming patches, we’ll also continue to work on features that we didn’t wrap up in time for the preseason update. For example, we’ll need to add keystone support for the in-game spectator mode and include runes in the end-of-game experience. We’ll also make managing rune pages easier and more streamlined with better filtering options and the ability to hide preset pages.

This is the biggest gameplay change we’ve ever shipped. There'll be a lot to tweak and we'll be working on it well past live. Expect to hear from us a lot in the coming days, weeks, and months as we continue to listen and respond to player feedback. We look forward to talking with everyone on boards and all the usual social media spots. See you on the Rift!

117 Comments

RiotRiot CactopusNov 3, 2017143 votes

heyyyyy friendos i updated the preseason website for u all as well ;)

https://i.imgur.com/pRPFwIK.jpg

DrPeeper10canNov 3, 20179 votes

holy shit its 10 times better.

LostFr0stNov 3, 201716 votes

I didn't expect anything less once I saw who posted. +1 for you.

KeutNov 3, 201721 votes

Incredible

NullAngelNov 3, 201717 votes

I love the "Sit the Fuck Down" Reddit Rune in the upper left

SonicÐeHedgedawgNov 5, 20172 votes

Any reason the AP/AD ratios have so many significant figures in them? It looks kinda ridiculous lol

gbreezyyNov 6, 20172 votes

Reported

SquidgwardNov 6, 20174 votes

cactopus please adopt me dad

RaccoonOniNov 8, 20171 votes

reported for swearing on this beautiful Christian minecraft server

PlagueDoctorXYZNov 5, 201713 votes

You will be missed 1% crit rune that I get lucky with everytime

How Do You MetaNov 3, 20179 votes

Mr. Owl, how many days does it take to get to the center of a Rito pop?

JamesDrake9Nov 3, 20176 votes

(snicker)

Aatrox Mid 1v5Nov 3, 20178 votes

Jesus Rito cant count [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Solar VoxNov 3, 20175 votes

I hate the new leveling system where there will be bragging rights considering what level you are which is dumb cause I can't play all day every day.

VerarticusNov 3, 201716 votes

If we never add/change anything because it could be "bragging rights" then the game will never change. There's always something people will brag about, using that as a reason to not change is stupid.

DedishNov 5, 20171 votes

What's the point of infinite leveling? Are we gonna need to be a certain level to use some of the new stuff? I doubt rito would put it in if there was no opportunity to make money of it in some sort of micro transaction. And if that is the case it will drive alot of people away

HypochondriacNov 5, 20173 votes

The only thing i can think of as to how they would make money is Exp boosters in the shop which isnt a big deal

MatthevvNov 8, 20171 votes

They make money by ensuring Blue Essence is in less abundance than IP was in order to incentivize purchasing RP for champions.

warpenguin555Nov 3, 20174 votes

I think you put this up on the wrong day lol

Samuel MurphyNov 3, 20172 votes

How so? I looked around and can't see why people are saying this

Aatrox Mid 1v5Nov 3, 20172 votes

It used to say the pre-season begins in two days, while the title says it begins Nov 8th. Its been fixed now

Hungry CancerNov 4, 20172 votes

The first time they released an official date for Season end was Nov 7th with the new season starting on the 8th, I have followed this from the beginning and at no point did I see an official post listing the 5th as the date, that would be the day after Worlds which would make no sense whatsoever.

Hungry CancerNov 4, 20174 votes

For the love of all that is unholy please replace the goddamn Ultimate hat. As a support I cannot justify not taking it in every build, because with the recent nerfs to the role and your absolute refusal to give us an appropriate number of options for items it would put my team at an unfair disadvantage if I didn't take the Ultimate Hat, and since the Sorcery Keystones are quite shitty for supports that means that I am forced to either take a shitty Keystone so I can get the secondary runes I need (which still puts my team at an unfair disadvantage) or more often I am forced to take Sorcery as my secondary which means that I can't take the runes I want like Zombie Ward because I have to take Inspiration as my primary if I don't want to screw over my team. It doesn't take a genius to see that supports need the Inspiration keystones over the other keystones since we don't need damage or a REALLY REALLYshitty shield; we need more options and agency such as slows, summoner spell versatility (even if Summoner Specialist is weak AF in comparison to the other keystones) or more gold production since we no longer have bandit; to take a damage Keystone (LIKE EVERY SINGLE OTHER OPTION) would just fuck over our team despite the fact that it is technically an option. You promised that you would not pigeon hole supports into a particular tree and so far that's precisely what you've done, and don't even try to claim Aery or that Meteor bullshit are good for supports because Aery in particular is so incredibly weak and the opposite of what we need as supports, despite the fact that some idiots will still use and defend it just because you tell them its for supports and they don't know better or because they want a damaging option even though a support will just get flamed if they take the damage option because it will result in unintentional KS's and higher damage numbers which are a good way to get reported by your ADC. The only set of viable keystones (by viable I mean that you can take them without putting your team at a disadvantage) for supports are the Inspiration runes and to a lesser extent the resolve runes (if you're a tank). In what world is the Ultimate Hat not a must-take rune for ALL supports? it's so blatantly obvious that the fact that it's even gotten through this far shows how little you care about keeping your word, especially when it comes to supports whom you have taken every opportunity to fuck over the past few seasons and then wonder why so few people play the role that it warps the game. You made a promise that you were changing things for the better and that all roles and classes would have viable options and not just carries, now please make good on your word, otherwise you're all just a bunch of filthy fucking liars that deserve to get AIDS from a Koala.

YocasmaNov 4, 20177 votes

I think you are just bad. Rather than focusing on runes/items, try working on skill and mechanics. [sona-playing]

Hungry CancerNov 4, 20174 votes

Are you daft or just toxic? you didn't post any supporting points, and frankly your comment is laughable without them. We need to be able to have options for builds just like the other roles, there's nothing "fun" about having to build the same thing every time, that was one of the things that this change was supposed to fix. Just because you want to abuse the Ultimate Hat doesn't mean it's healthy for the game or that I am bad for not wanting it to fuck over my choices.

Newbie128749Nov 5, 20178 votes

ultimate hat isn't op, it's like 15% max, which is multiplicative, not additive like cdr items. at 40% cdr a level 2 kat ulti with a fully stacked ulti hat has a 30 second cooldown vs a 36 second cooldown. it's not a difference as big as one would think

Fluffy PrinceNov 5, 20173 votes

Alternatively you could grab 'Cosmic Insight' from the bottom rung of 'Inspiration' for 5% CDR on everything including sums, item actives, and if you build for it 45% max CDR. Really for a lot of supports, aside from Soraka and Sona maybe, ults are a nice thing to have but not completely necessary as when played right you can easily win without the need for an ult. So having bonus CDR on your other abilities is great to, on top of most supports taking at least a few active items, it may not be much but 5% CDR on them can make a difference. Really I think it's just personal preference at the end of the day, but I can see reasons why all of these runes could be used in one way or another. For a champion pool of over 130 with another one coming there's always going to be someone who figures out how to use runes in a way someone else may not.

At the end of the day, I'd really like to see how Aery interacts with Soraka's ult.

BOmbarDantNov 5, 20174 votes

Can Riot allow players to view all of their ranked stats again. Personally I enjoyed viewing champion by champion how many wins, kills, deaths, and streaks I've accumulated.

RandomPotato26Nov 8, 20171 votes

if you look at your log files in your computer (should be C:\RiotGames\Leauge of Legends\logs) you can see them along with other stuff

Radiant WukongNov 3, 20173 votes

Nerdgasm

Can't wait to see how Wukong performs with th new runes/masteries

im2good4u77Nov 3, 20173 votes

riot said november 4th Kled now its november 8th?

ToastyyyyyNov 3, 201719 votes

i thought they said november 7th lmao

NiðstångNov 3, 20174 votes

I'm pretty sure they did lol.

muchorojoNov 4, 201716 votes

season ends on 7th, preseason starts on 8th

ForsakenDreamsssNov 8, 20171 votes

same lol

CpI Nobby NobbsNov 4, 20172 votes

sooooo there is no way to get bonus armor or Magic resist with the new rune system, this is gona really hurt all the support tanks. Braum, kench, leona, ext. do you have any plans to help these champions?

Hungry CancerNov 4, 20174 votes

Please read the posts concerning this, they are doing a base stat sweep and you get bonus resistances from runes, it will come out to about the same as it is now.

NamelessKilljoyNov 4, 20175 votes

You can check op.gg for changes in stats, braum and alistar as an example last i saw were getting +20 to there base armor, im not sure if thats exact anymore but its probably somehwere around there so dont worry about the stats. Remember no one gets damage stats like before either so it cancels out also the tree you pick gives you stats like going with the tank one gives you 105 extra base health and domination gives ad or ap

KambenNov 5, 20172 votes

aww id kinda miss the old runes tho. rest in peace full crit damage runes and all the joy you've brought to me over the years [zombie-nunu-bummed]

The Egirl SIayerNov 5, 20172 votes

Ok so I have a question. Are you going to include experience for all previous games played after level 30? Just curious because i play smite on my xbox and they did something similar to the infinite leveling and they calculated and added all xp onto your account from every previous game so you were the level that you would be if the cap was never 30.

A Wet FrogNov 5, 20172 votes

I think if these changes dont allow more champs to become meta champs its a worthless change. im soo sick and tired of seeing the same 20 damn champs in lcs all fricking year. think i saw nocturn once. like come on. if these champs arent good enough to play lcs why the hell arent you changing these champs!!!!!

BiperspectivalNov 6, 20174 votes

The short story is that if they made Garen playable in lcs, you wouldn't see him in low levels of play anymore. If you did that for every champ like him and Annie, new players would be without champs to play. If I was playing against Faker on malphite, he'd flash my ultimate. However, malph's playable at low elo's because people aren't that good. I think remaking every champion to be only playable by and against good opponents, would be sad and a huge loss for lower the lower ranks that do get a lot of champion diversity.

Even considering more complex champions like Riven or Nocturne, notice that most of the teams in worlds are following the meta pretty closely, and I expect it's the same for lcs. You won't see much Nocturne in the jungle, because what's strong right now is having a tanky jungler. Riot can't revamp all of their champs whenever the high-ranked meta shifts, and should the meta end up shifting towards assassin junglers, you'll probably start seeing more of Nocturne.

jsdghjhduehdejNov 6, 20172 votes

League is getting more and more complicated each season... [slayer-jinx-unamused]

CommunistEggNov 6, 20172 votes

as a yorick player, will yoricks ghouls be able to proc kleptomancy. If so this could be a very big buff to yorick

DEasomNov 7, 20172 votes

Is preseason live as of midnight? or is there a known time? I wanna be on when it happens

RexaCardNov 3, 20171 votes

Are we going to be able to level up in preseason and will that level rest after launch?

Douglas FunnieNov 3, 201711 votes

The title says, Preseason begins November 8th and it says "Discover powerful new runes, create your playstyle, and** level to infinity.**"

Which means, Yes, players will be able to level up beyond level 30 and Riot will not reset levels.

HumantribesNov 9, 20171 votes

So no one can play while they're at it? -.- wthhhh

MediumNastyNov 11, 20171 votes

Runes are cool. deff a learning curve. BUTTT the ping is stupid now. game is kinda unplayable. I have google fiber and I checked with the provider to see if there was issues. there was none. Riot plz fix the ping

Gucci ShadowsNov 17, 20171 votes

Ok I'm sorry riot but the new BE system is absolutely the worst thing you guys have ever done to league of legends. I am level 38 and I still do not have enough BE to buy a 6300 champ because I get terrible shards every game. Its not smart to disenchant the shards because its not worth it to buy champions without the shards anymore. If you do get shards for your champs you don't want to disenchant them because you have to save it to upgrade your champions mastery level because upgrading it with BE is a total rip off and not worth. There has to be a way to get BE faster because it is infinitely slower now. And its very frustrating because as I level up higher it is getting longer and longer for me to champ capsules but It is random what champion shards you get and most of the time it is a 450 which is worth nothing. Sure you get 4 of them. But 4x90=360. And it takes you 12-15 games to level up? Thats insane because, if i played that many games before I would have at least 1000. And this is coming from someone who plays hours a day, I can't imagine what it would be like for who plays casually. They will never be able to unlock all the champs at this rate. Its insane riot. Please do something about it.