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Designers weigh in on Leona vs Diana

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If you haven’t seen already, we teamed up with Nevarky to imagine what a hypothetical fight between Leona and Diana might look like.

But who better to chime in on a head-to-head fight between them than two of the folks who played a key role in their creation?

We spoke to artist Mike Maurino and designer David Abecassis, who shared their thoughts on what might be the results of a showdown between the Radiant Dawn and the Scorn of the Moon.

Who has the advantage in a “real life” battle?

Mike:  It really depends on the situation, right? Whether it’s night or day, where on the field of battle they meet, that kind of thing. I feel like the only way it could be a fair fight is if both celestial bodies were represented. Perhaps an eclipse?

David:  Even their inner natures battle. Could Diana’s wrath overcome Leona’s goodness? Would they even end up clashing at all? Maybe they end up walking away teammates. If all bets were off and a conflict unavoidable though, I feel like there’d be mutual annihilation.

Mike:  There would certainly be an epic clash of sword and shield. Leona has both, though. She can block and still has a backup weapon. Diana puts all her eggs in just the one weapon.

David:  I have trouble imagining Leona truly winning. She might be the last person standing, but would she make that last blow? Would she express doubt? Is she that bloodthirsty killer?

Who has the advantage in-game?

Mike:  If we’re talking purely in-game mechanics, there are a few things to consider. They’re both melee, so they’d both want to get up close and personal really fast.

David:  But Diana’s orbs punish melee characters.

Mike:  Right, but Diana has no CC, and leona has ALL OF IT. And Leona is designed as a support, so she can get work done with a lot less gold. Could that work in her favor?

David:  She is, however, designed to be a team player. Diana has the most tools to be a 1on1 fighter. She can exploit enemies and dodge around. But Leona may be a hard enough target that she’d run into problems.

If you’re forced to choose one -- who would win?

David:   From a purely mechanical standpoint I think it would be Diana. She’s got her shield, a passive to keep the damage coming -- she’s built to win a long fight.

Mike:  From my heart’s standpoint, probably Leona -- but at a terrible cost. If she wasn’t forced to fight to the death, she’d definitely try to show compassion. But if that wasn’t an option, she’d be completely regretful. She’d be ruined. Leona would die, in a way. In that respect, no one would truly win.


Who do you think would win in a showdown? Watch the fight and cast your vote here.

236 Comments

ItsYusif50 votes

Rito you're making a Leona/Diana legendary skin right? Whoever wins gets the skin, just like the Lucian/Thresh battle and thresh got the skin. :oooooooooo

Good stuff! But I think Diana works because she's so broken, and hard to be countered unless Leona builds full tank, then Leona wont have enough damage to kill Diana.

WraecIast132 votes

Will their skins be disabled for a week as well?

blazingspacepup7 votes

*a month

RiotMhija21 votes

The Thresh skin right after was just a happy coincidence! =] edit: but there are Leona and Diana bundles for sale in the game store!

ItsYusif4 votes

It would be really great, though!

I thought about it mainly because I've seen a YouTube video about old concepts of Legendary skins for Diana and Leona. :o

ItsYusif34 votes

cough cough Eclipse Leona and Bloodmoon Diana cough cough Just look it up. xD

PseudoCake3 votes

Eclipse Leona and Daybreak Diana sounds like a kickass bundle to me. Pls Rito?

Mayønaka12 votes

I hope Diana wins if that does happen. I main Diana and she's really fun to play for me. [slayer-jinx-wink]

ErisDM12 votes

Obviously the "bad" guy would always win because league players are edgy memers reaper mains

CasterGilgamesh16 votes

well then if thats the case Leona wins because she is closest you could put to being the bad guy she forces her bullshit belief on Diana and if diana didnt gain power from climbing the mountain diana would have fucking died

IdRatherFilm5 votes

word up. #teamdiana

Ralimak1 votes

Diana is a cold-blooded murderer who slaughtered the leaders of Leona's religion for no better reason than that they would not conform their beliefs to fit Diana's wishes.

Leona is not trying to force her beliefs on Diana, it is the other way around. Leona is simply trying to preserve her people's beliefs as they are, she has never tried to force anyone to believe the same way as her unless they are actually in the same religion. (saying, if you claim to be part of this religion, this is what you are supposed to believe).

Warlord Dienekes1 votes

Yeah that was the old lore. New lore Diana was taken over by a space parasite into doing the killings and deeply regrets it and new Leona wanted to murder Diana for talking.

Ralimak1 votes

"Diana was appalled. How could the elders reject what was so patently true? How could they turn their back on revelations brought from the very summit of the holy mountain? Her fury built at their willful blindness, and blazing orbs of silver fire spun in the air around her. With a scream of rage-fueled frustration, Diana’s sword swept out, and where it struck, silver fire burned with killing light. Again and again, Diana lashed out and when her fury ebbed, she saw the carnage she had unleashed. The elders were dead and Leona lay on her back, her armor smoking as though fresh from the forge."

Pantheon is the only Aspect who is truly taken over by the Targonians (space parasites). Leona, Diana, and Taric were all given knowledge, power, and purpose, but were left as themselves. As shown in the above quote from the new lore, it was very much Diana - of her own will and her own rage - who decided to murder the Solari elders.

Leona had no hard feelings towards Diana until she murdered Leona's friends and colleagues (and almost Leona herself) in front of her eyes.

Warlord Dienekes2 votes

You're missing the very next sentence where Diana is appalled at what she had just done and goes away desiring peace but is still haunted by the half memories of the past.

You're also missing this bit from Leona:

"Leona brought Diana in under armed guard, for her warrior instinct sensed something awry in the girl’s demeanor. Presented to the elders, Diana spoke of the Lunari, an ancient and proscribed faith that venerated the moon, and how all the truths the Solari clung to were incomplete. She described a realm beyond the mountaintop, a place where the sun and moon were not enemies, where new truths could show them fresh ways to look at the world. Leona felt her anger build with every word Diana spoke, and when the elders rejected her words and named her a blasphemer, Leona knew it would be her blade that ended the heretic’s life. "

This is before Diana did anything wrong, she's just talking of what she discovered, and Leona is growing furious just at Diana talking. She's also apparently fantasizing about being an executioner. So much for the once noble paladin who IronStylus said would be so heartbroken to have to kill this girl.

And yes the Aspects are parasites. They're not gods, yet establish people to worship them as such. They have mystical cosmic power, but use it to enslave their allies. They've spread across the entire galaxy and yet still possess people to do their dirty work for them. Leona even says in her color text

"The being she had joined with atop the mountain longed to burn these men with its cleansing fire"

The space parasite is inside her now. And what's worse it's apparently a pyromaniac sociopath.

Really the entire race of Space Targonians sound like a bunch of jackasses. The one exception would be The Protector, because unlike The Pantheon and the sun and moon aspects it doesn't seem to do any weird crap messing with Taric's head. They just seemed to talk for a bit, gave Taric a bit of direction on how to do a job Taric always kind of wanted to do and then buggered off.

Zerana5 votes

They should do a tournament style 1v1 battle between 200 people who each choose to play either Leona or Diana. When the 100 battles are over we can see who would really win accurately and the winner gets the skins. But they should both get an eclipse skin with one of them being the blood moon or blood sun skin as the victor.

MVpmack2 votes

mechanically diana pretty much wrecks leona. in a 1v1, leona would have trouble farming at all, and diana has a shield and strong burst in an all-in situation. as they said above, leona's a team player who depends on her allies to deal damage while diana is a fighter/assassin who is practically built around 1v1 and small skirmishes. it's not really fair to leona to base this on game mechanics.

that being said, i voted for diana because she wrecks leona 1v1 mechanically, in addition to liking diana and disliking leona.

HyperionXD4 votes

I voted Diana because, (for one thing) Diana is (to me) a better person. Diana didn't fit with the sundips so she found the shrine and posted a new religion on Facebook, then all the angry sun-lims started blowing up in her stuff. They sent her to a camp to make little girls less "musical", so she screwed some stuff up, now the Sun-pope wants to defeat her honorably and make Sun-shtianity the only elemental religion. Shurima's next xD

heuheuHUE2 votes

yes rito we want a victorious diana skin!!! and some legendary diana skins!!!! more diana skins!!!! and icons!!! and wards!!!!! PLZ RIOT!!!

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Hakumele14 votes

A set of eclipse legendary skins would be really cool, where the two ladies' roles would be reversed: Leona would be clad in dark (black/white) armor, representative of a solar eclipse, and Diana could be a vibrant reds/oranges representative of a lunar eclipse.

Warlord Dienekes12 votes

Oh, IronStylus/Mike, Leona isn't a loving heartfelt person anymore. She was the person who was looking to execute Diana before she even did anything wrong.

But that's ok. I like to ignore the new lore too.

Aproxima5 votes

Amen to that. New lore shows no real kindness or goodness in Leona, so she'd probably murder her without hesitation.

Project Zadd10 votes

Project Diana skin?!?!?! Anyone? You know we need it.

PureLuna2 votes

YESSSSS PLEASE- DIANA MAIN

Peach Tree4 votes

Also, they can give Zilean a blood moon skin, but not the SCORN OF THE MOON? Rito pls.

MotorMouth3751 votes

he has one.

2bias F88 votes

I don't think you read that right

Yunar 9 votes

Hextech Bard????? Bard Bard

YaJpTpOg4C9 votes

Definitely not Diana and Definitely not Leona skins

Peach Tree3 votes

Where Diana is Leona.

Count Buffon2 votes

Diana could be some hooded Solari cultist impostor (presumably on an assassination mission).

Leona would probably go with something goofier.

woodvsmurph2 votes

special forces skin: grapnel hook and riot shield for leona

BrownPancakez8 votes

This article really considers both points of view, but i still think Diana will win

Vistha Kai8 votes

You heard it here first, guys.

IronStylus said, Diana has no CC.

Bow to Mommy Eve8 votes

Gods, I just love everything about Diana <3 Story, gameplay, everything. When I first started League, I noticed how amazing her splash was. It came off with such a strong and stout presence, but a pained one as well. The first time I ever played her was on freeweek and I fell in love. Her jokes were the topping on it.

I do love Leona too, and I adore their conflict. I like the old lore, but the new one I think is more of a satisfying story between the two, how Leona realized later on that maybe there can be justice in questioning it. She became a much less 3-dimensional character afterward. I also love how they emphasized the celestial avatars within them, and while, as they said above, are even internal opposites, they're also the representation of Balance. Personally, Diana is still my favorite and always will be, but more than anything I'd love to see them friends, speak things out face-to-face.

Lowkey I'd love them to be more than friends, but y'know~ I CAN DREAM item 3070 item 3070

SHSLdiva2 votes

diana is so gorgeous. like holy shit she's so pretty? her splash arts are amazing and i love her backstory. have you listened to her theme song? it's GORGEOUS.

leona's okay but i'll always love the moon more.

(also im laughing at your name + the comment about them being more than friends)

Remery7 votes

I would have to choose Leona, in this 1v1, he cc can stop Diana from achieving her combos, and W mitigates Diana mag and phy dmg, and also hurt diana also and last for 6 secs. I don't think Diana can kill Leona fast enough and in a long battle she will get stunned every 6 secs, while Leona keeps buffing herself with her W.

El Von Hresvelg7 votes

I think Bard would win.

ThisDique6 votes

There is no Way Leona would ever loser to Diana, just build item 3074 and the rest tank. Then take wtf ever runes you want while taking grasp of the undying and a couple points into ferocity. No matter how much of a fight Diana puts up it will always end in Leona using Diana item 3070 as lubricant for self pleasuring. This is in-game and in lore, Day or Night, Eclipse or not.

I'm a strong advocate for Leona so pick me up for that 1v1 brah?!? Don't be Scerrrd.

DatGrackle4 votes

two words, magic penetration.

Black Time Lord4 votes

ITS TIME FOR A DEATH BATTLE

Add Me After4 votes

Mike: From my heart’s standpoint, probably Leona -- but at a terrible cost. If she wasn’t forced to fight to the death, she’d definitely try to show compassion. But if that wasn’t an option, she’d be completely regretful. She’d be ruined. Leona would die, in a way. In that respect, no one would truly win.

I don't feel like Mike has read up on the recent lore.... Diana found the truth of equality, she tried to share this truth and was sentenced to death for it, she never wanted anyone to die... Leona readily believed the corrupted rule of her elders will to have her silenced and wanted to kill her before she even killed in self defense!?!

Leona is the mislead killer, Diana the herald of truth... plz don't spread lies about her being the more righteous of the two.. :(

IDK about Mike, But I'm more for equality and truth than a corrupted system of belief and being put to the death for questioning it...

Warlord Dienekes1 votes

Mike was apparently instrumental in making the old Leona and Diana and had plans for where they would develop but has nothing to do with their new lores. You can forgive a man for talking about the stuff he actually had a hand in.

Add Me After2 votes

Mike: From my heart’s standpoint, probably Leona -- but at a terrible cost. If she wasn’t forced to fight to the death, she’d definitely try to show compassion. But if that wasn’t an option, she’d be completely regretful. She’d be ruined. Leona would die, in a way. In that respect, no one would truly win.

Like I said, I don't think Mike has read up on the direction the champs took Lore Wise... I think the champion designs are cool and interesting in-game (looking at the upcoming Leona changes) but I just disagree with his heart's standpoint on who would win

You can forgive a man for talking about the stuff he actually had a hand in.

I can't tell if this was an aggressive statement, but I just really don't understand/agree with his standpoint, this doesn't mean I'm upset with him for talking about anything, the question of Diana vs. Leona was a question asked to the community, and this was my personal response to the question and his standpoint,

EMBRACE THE HERESY!

Chaos Druid3 votes

Leona can burst diana without even trying to trade*[zombie-brand-mindblown]*

Mryoseblee3 votes

Yasuo

Shahamut3 votes

Leona: Spirit Visage, Wit's End, Hydra, Trinity Force, Frozen Heart, Merc Treads. I would bet she could beat Diana.

Leona's burst is underestimated, and her CC is undeniable. Even before the proposed changes on the PBE: R, (prime W), E, AA/Q/AA combo, W explodes, AA.

That whole thing can happen to a target in a VERY short amount of time with very little (if any) reprisal.

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