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Rune Combiner & T1/T2 Runes

Riot··5 votes·169,073 views

Tl;dr – In Patch 5.1 we’ll be simplifying the new player rune experience by removing all scaling and most secondary Tier 1 & Tier 2 runes from the store, reducing and standardizing prices on the remainder, and removing the Rune Combiner from the client. The price changes won’t be retroactive, and no runes will be removed from accounts.

We’d like to give you a heads up regarding some changes coming in patch 5.1 that are aimed at streamlining the rune experience for new players. To clarify, these changes aren’t part of our long-term plans for the overall rune system (still working on those!) and generally won’t affect most level 30s – they’re a quick fix specifically focused on making things smoother for new players.

First of all, we’re slimming down the number of purchasable Tier 1 and Tier 2 runes. These runes are intended to be an introduction to the level 30 rune experience, but duplicating the entire Tier 3 rune roster is overkill given that players will pretty quickly move on to T3 runes. In particular, more advanced decisions like the appropriate use of scaling or secondary (AP marks, Armor glyphs, Crit EVERYTHING, etc) runes are something we think can wait until players have mastered the basics of League. With that in mind, we’re pulling all scaling and most secondary T1/T2 runes from the store and thereby reducing the number of purchasable T1/T2 runes from 88 to just 23. This will be a store-only change so no runes will be removed from accounts.

To complement these changes, we’re also adjusting the remaining T1/T2 runes with lower, standardized pricing that will reduce individual T1/T2 rune prices by anywhere from 55% to 90+% depending on current cost. These prices changes are also store-only and won’t be retroactive.

Finally, we’re removing the Rune Combiner. For the unfamiliar, the Rune Combiner is a tool accessible through the Runes profile tab that lets players combine runes in order to receive a new one. It was initially conceived as a progression tool and a way for players to recycle lower-tier runes, but has ended up being a bit of a trap for low-level players as well as a tool for mischief in the case of shared or compromised accounts. So, we’re retiring it – pretty simple. Make sure to use it before Patch 5.1 if you’re the gambling type or simply want to get rid of some unused runes.


You can see the full change list below (subject to change):

  • Rune Combiner removed
    • Players occasionally used the Rune Combiner to delete excess runes upon reaching the rune cap (700). In the future, please contact Player Support for assistance.
  • Price reduction / standardization on remaining T1 / T2 runes (not retroactive)
    • Tier 1
      • New prices: 15 IP per quint, 5 IP per mark / seal / glyph
      • Previous prices: 80 - 165 IP per quint, 15 - 65 IP per mark / seal / glyph
    • Tier 2
      • New prices: 100 IP per quint, 35 IP per mark /seal / glyph
      • Previous prices: 410 - 820 IP per quint, 80 - 330 IP per mark / seal / glyph
  • Remaining T1 / T2 runes (all flat)
    • Marks - Attack Damage, Attack Speed, Armor Penetration, Magic Penetration
    • Seals - Armor, Magic Resist, Health, Health Regeneration
    • Glyphs - Ability Power, Cooldown Reduction, Mana Regeneration, Magic Resist
    • Quints - Ability Power, Cooldown Reduction, Magic Penetration, Armor, Magic Resist, Health, Attack Damage, Attack Speed, Armor Penetration, Life Steal, Movement Speed
  • Following T1 / T2 runes removed from store (existing owners retain them)
    • All scaling runes
    • Marks – Ability power, Armor, Cooldown Reduction, Critical Chance, Critical Damage, Health, Hybrid Penetration, Magic Resist, Mana, Mana Regeneration
    • Seals – Ability Power, Attack Damage, Attack Speed, Cooldown Reduction, Critical Chance, Critical Damage, Mana, Mana Regeneration, Percent Health
    • Glyphs – Armor, Attack Damage, Attack Speed, Critical Chance, Critical Damage, Health, Health Regeneration, Manacreat
    • Quints – Critical Chance, Critical Damage, Health Regeneration, Hybrid Penetration, Mana, Mana Regeneration, Percent Health

492 Comments

Tacit1087 votes

Why don't they make it so that when you buy a lower tier rune you can upgrade it to the next tier by paying the difference?

Kürama143 votes

Good idea. Rito pls.

Rew71158 votes

So, unless this happens, I'm stuck with useless runes. . . . . . WHY

IthinkthatsKirby35 votes

Rune Combiner removed Players occasionally used the Rune Combiner to delete excess runes upon reaching the rune cap (700). In the future, please contact Player Support for assistance.

Riot support will halp you.

Dubstep Omen20 votes

im sure everyone can agree on a sell at 50% purchase cost tab in store for unwanted champs and runes

Rhomz74 votes

Give this man a medal

DBRAINFREEZE44 votes

item 3096 or item 3301

MadArcher21 votes

LOL ID SAYitem 3105 OR item 3069

DDDDoge20 votes

GOOD IDEA.

patuitar25 votes

Thats a beast idea i have runes from tier one and 2 and there just there wasting space

DorkunedAuras29 votes

WHY THE HELL HASN'T RITO DONE THIS INSTEAD?

erikt51618 votes

This is an amazing idea

FeelNFine37 votes

Huh, well that appears to be easy and just solve everything.

Eryl Fauna12 votes

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tamashinoerufu88 votes

considering those are champs, not runes ... your an idiot

Land Boat75 votes

you're**** summoner 3

MrShishy24 votes

logged in just to upvote this idea. indeed. rito plz.

aQanLszKsT21 votes

And/or they can allow you to sell runes you no longer want/need at a fraction of the price, so they don't just sit there. i.e. People who don't want their XP quints can sell them off for 50% of original price purchased or whatever percentage deemed just.

Mutagenaric42 votes

Hmm. That sounds like a good idea.

Good ideas are not allowed in the rune system, get out.

habilonion9 votes

logged in to up vote this, Riot please take a look at this no one wants to be stuck with low class runes, and saying to talk to customer support is not a help it means a lot of work to do something that used to take seconds

InsaneSamurai81 votes

So they're still useless and a waste of IP once you hit lvl 20? Nice.

Gali29 votes

Seriously? Did you look at the prices? They're like 5-35 IP a piece which is close to nothing. Plus it'll give lower level players a chance to experiment before they blow all their IP on Tier 3 runes they'll never use once they figure out they're garbage.

Ajakson10 votes

T1 Runes will have 33% of the power of T3 runes at like 3% of the cost! That's awesome for new players and low level accounts!

And now T2 runes are affordable! Woot!

Daedalus87143 votes

There was no mention about changing the stats given of the runes, so lets look at it this way:

T1 runes give roughly 60% of the stats of T3 runes. Currently, the cheapest T3 runes are 410 IP. So T1 runes are about 1% of the cost for T3 runes. So you get 60% of the stats for about 1% of the cost.

Using T3 runes as a baseline, T1 runes will be about 6000% IP efficient. Thats not a bad deal if you want to focus on getting new champs over grinding runes.

HarbingerOfKaos19 votes

Seriously. If you bought every single T1 and T2 rune, it would cost 8115 IP. That's like only 2 champions.

Boner of Command58 votes

But will there be a rune sale to complement these changes?

abdulaziz50 votes

will there ever be a change in cost in rune pages because i'm constantly faced with the trivial decision to either expand my champion pool or get my 3rd rune page because to be totally honest is quite high and i do understand there is some logical reason behind their price but for someone in their 1st season they are very expensive and yes they are quite affordable rp wise but most people spend rp on skins and champs

Rhomz13 votes

My comment agrees with you

7ha7guy77710 votes

i heard there was going to be a rune page sale before the end of the year. i'm stockpiling ip since i'll need at least 2 more pages and i'll also need runes for those pages

Zepshun7 votes

It's been postponed to January.

ButterHotDog33 votes

All T1/T2 scaling runes have now become legacy runes

AbodyHUN6664 votes

Quick buy them all!!!

oddeyeoval29 votes

But I was Diamond in Rune Combiner last season...

Kürama28 votes

"Removing all scaling runes" made me think ALL scaling runes, instead of Tier 1 and Tier2 scaling runes at first. >.>

Sub103013 votes

I feel like there should be an option to sell and/or summoner 11 unused runes that you have sitting in your inventory. I have a bunch of tier 1s, 2s and even later runes I do not use.

HashSwagGG7 votes

I just spent 5k IP on runes last night. I'm literally crying.

ballatwenty437 votes

If they were tier 3 runes, then that is irrelevant because this doesn't affect them at all.

WingSpear7 votes

Why can't you make it so that we sell our runes back at 1/3 the price instead of having to combine them... I kinda don't like runes that I don't use sit there. And it's not like you are losing anything, you have to play the game to be able to buy runes, so why not just sell them back.

Also, sometimes when I save up enough ip, I like to go on a shopping spree for runes. If possible, can you add a counter to for runes in the store, I'm kinda stupid and forget which runes I am buying for and how many to get. So for Marks, Seals, Glyphs when looking to buy, in the corner of it or when you go to buy it, it says "X/9 runes owned" since you can only buy 9, and for Quints, it would say "X/3 Quits owned". Anyways just my 2 cents.

GaleWinUnleashed10 votes

It already provides that information. There is an option to buy up to 9 of a rune at a time, and it will not let you set that number such that you would end up with more than 9 total. So if you already have 5 of a rune, for instance, and go to buy some more of it, that counter will not go past 4.

Fishmaster90006 votes

What is the rune combiner?

HarbingerOfKaos23 votes

For the unfamiliar, the Rune Combiner is a tool accessible through the Runes profile tab that lets players combine runes in order to receive a new one.

Did you even read the post?

Nairwick5 votes

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XxEarthDreamsxX6 votes

You mean message?

Deep Terror Nami21 votes

Renekton Lord of the Dessert would like your massage.

IceJunSlowly2 votes

Hey riot .. why u remove my gift skin ... 12/16/17 , i just found out my skin are all missing .... -0- can u gave me back . pls .

Its all Gucci28 votes

Wrong place

loutlinesl2 votes

This price drop amount is ridiculous. All the people buying, or already own full tier 3 rune sheets had to pay full price. This is complete and utter BS. 15 IP FOR A QUINT?!?!?!?!

ballatwenty450 votes

Please read the full thing. This does not affect tier 3 runes AT ALL. This only reduces the cost of tier 1 & 2 runes which were essentially useless before so that lower level players can have some experience with runes without spending all their IP before they hit level 20 & can start buying tier 3. Nowhere in the post does it say they are changing anything with the cost or values of tier 3 runes.

Wind Whistler3 votes

Thats not exactly fair either.

UhmBrock8 votes

What do you want them to do? Never change the game again, so that it will always be fair to those who started playing the game earlier?

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