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Level Beyond 30

Riot··5 votes·213,693 views

We’re removing the level 30 cap, and the new cap is… infinity! We’re also replacing the IP grind with a revamped rewards system that levels up with you.

Level Up, Get Loot

Instead of getting IP after every game, you'll now receive an unlocked chest each time you level up. Capsules contain champ shards and blue essence, and if you hit special milestone levels, you'll earn special rewards like gemstones or rare emotes.


IP Turns Blue

To tie all these changes together, we're connecting the leveling and loot systems by merging IP and blue essence. The newer, bluer essence will work in all the places IP and BE worked before, including loot and the champion store. And everything in the store still costs the same as it did in the old, IP-based system—for example, it’s still 6300 BE for a newer champ like Kayn.

These are major changes to some of the oldest systems in League and we’ll be keeping a close eye on them. We’ll continue to iterate and improve these systems to ensure the new foundations of League remain strong.

As you level beyond 30, let us know how the new system feels and remember to open your capsules!

534 Comments

AlysonRuby181 votes

Personally, I dislike the new Blue Essence system. It requires you to level up in order to get BE, and you miss out on 30 levels worth of BE if you are already level 30. Unless you are brand new to the game, this system does not work out in your favor well. It is substantially harder to do things like gain Mastery levels 6 and 7 for champions, and buy champions. What set LoL apart from other free games was that it wasn't a 'pay to win' game, skins are just extras. Now, LoL's currency system works just like any other mobile game. Level up, get rewards quickly at the start. Reach a certain point, leveling becomes slower and you gain less and less rewards over time. At that point you either grind, grind, grind for hours on end, stop playing the game because of its lack of consistent rewards, or buy what you need with real money. The even sadder thing is that it's a gamble every time you level up, you can either get champions you don't own, expensive champion shards, or cheap champion shards that won't give you much BE. I loved the feeling of wanting a new champion, then playing games and watching my IP grow more and more until I had enough for that champion. And it took a while too, but it was a worthwhile grind. Now you're just grinding for an unknown amount of BE. Was Riot's IP system really holding back on their profits? Is 1,628 million (and counting) dollars worth of transactions not good enough for them? Riot is constantly releasing new skins, and there will always be people there who want those skins. I have heard that many people might leave the game because of its 'pay to win' feel it has now. I am sick of playing game after game and looking at my BE just stay where it's at. If Riot made it so you would get an amount of blue essence after a game (maybe, half as much earnings you got from IP, or even a quarter), then people would know that they're earning something from every game they play, which is what keeps them playing. I kept playing because I wanted that new champion. Now you can't do anything but hope that you get good champion shards on your next level up (which is very time-consuming). Hopefully this will be fixed, maybe after the BE store shuts down, this change has made me pretty angry, along with many others.

Frostedelixer9 votes

agreed

dubz982 votes

no you don't the mission at the beginning of the update gives you a lot of BE

imjchiang42 votes

That is just the mission in the beginning though. If there were missions like that once a week I wouldn't be complaining, but I personally leveled up to level 32 within the past 3 days and got only 500 blue essence worth of champs that I already own. Now just to give you an idea of the time comparisons. I played 20 games averaging 30 minutes in the past three days. This resulted in approximately 500 BE. Now if you look at before the update, I could earn around 500 IP (or now BE) in two wins on separate days assuming the games last around 30 minutes. So do the initial mission benefits outweigh the grinding necessary to meet the conditions before the update? No, not at all.

rbaajla11 votes

Totally agree with this. I just hit level 35, I expected it to be a better reward as mentioned above, but all I got was 3 champ shards...This is making it really hard to get the champs I want. [sg-lux-2] So what are the levels where ill actually get something good?

MissCheesecake27 votes

Can I copy and paste this into lol facebook page? It's exactly how I feel! Every word of it!! I am so mad about this change. It's absurd... they should make some other way for us to be able to get BE because this is BS

Zushi Sama69 votes

I wish we can turn a bunch of Hextech Key to Hextech Chest. I got 23 Hextech Keys and a bunch of keys but no Hextech Chest.

SOH HellBoy28 votes

My problem is the other way around, I have like 15 chests but no keys... Wish I could turn some chests into keys.

R0GER16 votes

same here, 33 keys with not one chest

Nayr42rox39 votes

I recently got my 27th key... My problem it's that I am a dirty one-trick and never get any chests. Can Riot help out is one-tricks? I understand they want us to play diversely, but I still think there should be a different way to get chests.

FatedWolf42 votes

So... You're telling me that veteran players who've played thousands upon thousands of games get NO levels added at all? o-o What kind of... Perhaps it sounds petty, but I feel like my large amount of time in the game should reflect my level, instead of showing the same as some player who just hit 30. wasn't an issue when cap was 30, but becomes one now.

RadMedusa27 votes

You have champions, skins, legacy content, all kindsa of crap from playing over the years - as well as something essence can't buy: years of experience playing the game. Go out and pwn.

StiylMagnus9318 votes

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IAmTheEvolution18 votes

I agree, veteran players get nothing out of this update. IF anything they get a disadvantage.

TirenNight34 votes

My issue is the "Essence store" is crap.. like half the stuff on there is just Decore..Can not use it for skins beside Chroma.. like really thats what we get ? Like for us Vets that we spent money on pages or even just other things I feel like it is a joke... They made the "Essence Shop" too be some big hype with all the essence you get and I could care less for any of it.. Okay.. Icons..Okay wards......

Zoalf43 votes

What, you don't want to spend all the essence you just got on a single poro emote?

Huracań6 votes

I would if I actually have them, played for 2 straight year day and night non stop every second I'm free id be on league and at the end I only get like roughly 300k IP and with the champs and crap id be lucky to buy a emote, had to take pic on my phone and flash it every time I want to use the emote lol

Essence struggle*[sg-miss-fortune]*

RedstoneRailroad14 votes

I mean I only got like 20K BE so I just went for some odd champions I haven't bought yet. Plus a mission gave me another 12K BE. What sucks.. Bought some chromas and a champion, legit like 50 essance from own Tahm Kentch >.< I have to level up (almost 10 games) to just get that tiny amount of essance... then I need like 3900 for M7 Nami. [sg-janna]

Sidewalk25 votes

RIP IP 2009-2017

Very Hard Engage24 votes

we've been bamboozled, the rate of blue essence gain is lower than what IP used to be. you will not be buying 6300 champs ever again.

tdhansen3 votes

You can buy mystery champions for 3950 BE (at least for now). So if you've unlocked all of the champions, you can get them as they are released for pretty cheap.

TheCharmingCharm11 votes

Unless they changed it for season 8, mystery champions give you a random champion shard, even if you already own the champ.

Whitedog3543 votes

Re-rolling my good friend.

Lunar Confusion8 votes

I think they said somewhere that you can't reroll Champs anymore... Can for skins still though

Zac x Me22 votes

Great, I already avoid opening Honor Capsules because they contain permanent champions that instantly unlock and add to your roster, now we get leveling capsules that do the same thing gg. No more ingame currency to be earned for me, as I don't want flippin champions forced onto my account that I do not even want to play.

Odd Gnome35 votes

Because the world is just going to end if you have more than one champion. Maybe to help pick someone else's champion in draft? What a significant inconvenience.

Vacuum Chamber41 votes

I'm guessing this person likes to play ARAM and doesn't want champions in their ARAM pool that they don't play. Please think before you post.

EXTREME15368213820 votes

I feel like Riot is making it seem like it's a good thing that influence points are gone. I am level 30, so leveling up is not easy task. Every time I do level up, I had better get quite a lot of blue essence to make it worth my while...

CannaBill9 votes

just got my first levelup capsule for 31... decent champ shard but it didn't contain any BE at all despite per match rewards no longer existing. gotta love getting a champ shard I didn't own but no way to craft it into an actual champ

SHIMOxxKUMA1 votes

Your suppose to disenchant the champ shards you don't want to get the BE to craft the ones you do/ buy them from the store at full price.

Xelace10 votes

By that logic someone could spend weeks getting 10+ levels and still not be able to unlock the champion they want, depending if they keep getting cheap champs. Not loving the gambling aspect of it all. You used to be able to work towards specific goals at least, and be able to figure how long it would take you to achieve them.

koalamaster1116 votes

HOW THE HELL DO I GET NEW CHAMPS NOW?!?! since you aren't receiving blue essence at the end of game and you can't re-roll champ shards it is ridiculously hard to get new champions please fix rito

slowkillin14 votes

riot i love how you take away all the ip i would make playing lol only to get B.E when i level up. will it = the ip i would have gotten playing the same amount of games? i love how u say all chromas are on sale but their not all on sale. i love how the champ shard that used to cost 1700 ip now cost 3950 B.E. i also love how to level a champ to level 6 mastery used to cost 500 B.E now cost 3250 B.E and to make them level 7 went from 600 to 3900. you dont think 150,000 B.E isn't alot for a Warwick skin? 50,000 for an emote plz. it turns out riot only wanted to make it so we the players now will have to buy rp to get anything worth while

Mister Domino13 votes

Literally, Happy Birthday me. 31 today, as will my account.

Drakn Stagson13 votes

"And everything in the store still costs the same as it did in the old, IP-based system—for example, it’s still 6300 BE for a newer champ like Kayn."

Except the Hextech crafting shards are 3950 when they were 1700 before the patch. Why was that cost increased? And why was it not mentioned?

RovinKnight12 votes

Riot, the blue essence store just opened, and I was so excited...until I saw that not every chroma was available for purchase with BE. Most disappointingly, all the ones that I actually wanted (like pool part Lulu), aren't available. I worked so hard to get as much BE as possible before the season ended (got 178,436!) just so I could run around buying everything. This makes me so sad. 8(

Will additional items be added on as we go? Or later on? Cause so far, the store's a big let down.

HeroFluff12 votes

Now that there is an infinity level cap, will that change match making? Will a level 28 get put into a game with other level 28's and the level 124 will be put with other level 124's? [zombie-brand-clap]

lovemycereal12 votes

I am almost level 40, currently level 39, and the nine level ups have produced about 6000 BE. I have not received a champion worth 6300. i got three 4800 two of which I already own and one 3150,the rest are lesser value. Getting multiple of the same champ or in some cases only receiving one champ shard in a level up capsule is RIDICULOUS!

Pse10 votes

15-25 games to level up to get the chest to get BE. Well what if I'm at 6299 and needed a quick gain but am nowhere near leveling up?

xRiven9 votes

If they almost always have a Champion Shard, what's the benefit when I have all the champions?

Hadlem8 votes

Blue essence

JamesDrake92 votes

And then?

GamingEelektross6 votes

Blue Essence is the new IP, and you'll be able to buy more than just champs

Crelyon9 votes

This update makes playing games feel unrewarding because I got so addicted to watching that ip slowly grow and now after 11 game i got what 700 BE for my shards and it just felt terrible, unrewarding and slow.

NaiTheKnight448 votes

They need to look at how Dragon Ball Dokkan came out with the level missions. If you were level 200 you got all the rewards for hitting level 1, 5, 10, 15 etc when the update came out. That was you aren't being punish for already being a high level when the update hit. Please fix this because I know getting to level 20 would have got me some nice rewards. Thanks.

Prefëct7 votes

I like the patch and all, but the leveling up for BE...I don't really like it. What if I really want a champ, but I don't have enough BE, and I'm not even close to leveling up? does that mean I gotta grind even harder to level up and get BE? We need a better income system :/

TheTrueNepho7 votes

I'm really not liking the new blue essense changes at all

THEMAXONICKING7 votes

I don't like the idea of only getting essence and chest by leveling up at all!This will take significantly longer to get essence and chests as you level up and that only seems like its giving league itself an advantage by making it more difficult for already high leveled champions to get essence and in turn champions. [zombie-brand-clap] [sg-ahri-1] [slayer-jinx-unamused]

BlueNoize7 votes

level up rewards are a joke...you get BE way slower than IP. love the new rune/mastery stuff tho

firewhisprer7 votes

We dont get nearly enough BE when compared to the rate of IP gained from previous seasons

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