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Controlling friend that is consumed with "advantages"

SuicideJ·8/26/2015, 3:02:36 AM·2 votes·1,167 views

Okay, so here's the deal.

Friend plays support. Likes to be SUUUUUUUPER aggressive. I like to play ADC more passive/aggressive. He likes to take advantage of every situation (regardless of whether its good or not). I like to let my opponent make the mistakes so I kill them or zone them out. I tell him before the match starts, how I am going to play the match til I get a feel of how the enemy team plays. He agrees or whatnot. We play my strategy til we get a couple kills. Then he goes ham on them without me and dies and is yelling at me. I proceed to tell him that he didn't follow the strategy and that is why he died (He doesn't ping or even tell me since we have chat and are talking to each other). I had myself positioned, but the enemy doesn't stay still.

Repeat process. I tell him I won't go in recklessly, just because "we have the advantage! total and utter advantage!" He will scream this til he foams at the mouth, while being about as effective as Aquaman on Robot Chicken.. It doesn't matter who he plays. It could be Volibear, Braum, Leona, Thresh, Jana, Soraka, or anyone else that does support.

He. Will. Go. Ham.

I understand certain Supports are designed to be aggressive, that being said, I also know that they can be played passively until the enemy team can't do anything about it. (This is really shocking how it works IRL application.

I tell him to try one match the way I want to play. Just to see if it works (Because I know it works, because I do it all the time). He knows it works. We try it my way. He follows it for 6-9 minutes. then it's back to the usual foaming at the mouth. He gets very bossy. If I don't do EXACTLY how he wants me to do it, he will leave voice chat, go to a different lane (after feeding them), and foam about no one listening to him. He disconnects at the end of the game and pouts.

Switch to different lane (for me).

I'm jungle WW and have been helping lanes by picking off or helping pick off enemy champs. I tank damage for people to let them get away. I kill creeps fast to get to where I need to be. I gank almost perfectly (According to the response I receive from my allies, not because I say so). Friend is playing support for a pug (We were in a low level match helping a friend). Proceeds to foam when ADC (Super noob) doesn't play like the guys on youtube. Yep. You heard me. The noob didn't play like the guys on youtube. Shocking I know. I understand he had a terrible ADC. But he tells me I'm terrible at Jungle, when I'm 13/8/18 and he is 0/15/21. All because I misclicked on a Dragon Smite. He then proceeds to go from mid (with their entire team between him and Dragon) as we come down from base through mid and into the Jungle from closer to Blue Buff. I tell him that we need to kill off their team before starting Dragon. So I hide in the bush above "obvious bush" Their team is in bottom mid bush. He runs up to their bush and gets ambushed hard and drops like a bag of potatoes. I ask him (in a very incredulous voice) why on earth he would do that. He said "to ward, you need to see where they are." He said this as if talking to a child that doesn't know how to breathe properly. And he said it very seriously. Now warding is important. But, we KNEW where they were. It wasn't like we saw them go into the mid bush and go "gee, I wonder where they went?" So we proceeded to lose that fight and got hammered the rest of the game.

Sad part is that before he went on a "youtube binge" about LoL, we did fine together. We worked together. We won all the time. We were complete noobs, yes. But we had really good synchronization. Now he claims he "knows more about league than me" and wields the fact that he spends countless hours on LoL (while I have a job) over my head then proceeds to tell me I'm not very good at LoL. He will post YouTube video after YouTube video of what he has learned about LoL on my page, as a silent lecture. Here are some of his arguments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmj-p1B8V-w

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/954437-league-of-legends/69479590?page=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6szLBmyh804

Now, I think the guy in the Videos sounds smart and all that. But, letting a YouTuber be your judgement in game, Seems really dumb to me. If you can't play like them exactly then, practice first, then try it out. If it doesn't work then don't keep doing it. I don't want him to be a drone of mine that does whatever I say. He is too busy being a drone of the YouTuber's for that. I want him to work with me. I am not the normal ADC. I don't gloat or taunt my enemy. I don't get upset when Support gets a kill. I praise my Support when they do good and/or get a kill.

Keep in mind he has this suicidal (oh the puns) tendency to charge into the enemy "in order to save" me. I'm already out of their reach and have been continually pinging for him to retreat. He dies "for the cause". I know have to face tougher opponents. "But I'm only worth a creep". That is his argument. We lose the match and he blames it on me. We win the match and he is awesome.

I would appreciate thoughts on this and the playstyles that work versus the playstyles that "ideologically" work. He has "best case scenario syndrome". I have "worst case scenario syndrome". Help would be appreciated!!

(Sorry about the long post Dx)

21 Comments

NemeBro8/26/2015, 8:39:29 PM4 votes

Have you considered beating your friend up?

Crunchyfied8/26/2015, 4:40:54 PM2 votes

It is situational to have an aggressive support like that. With vision on the map and an advantage, it is better to be more aggressive towards opponents but still, do it smart and cautiously. Your friend probably needs to stop playing league for a bit before the rage consumes him and perma ban gg.

Alljoy8/26/2015, 4:18:50 AM2 votes

Sounds like your friend honestly doesn't feel like he's actually any good deep down so he tries to overcompensate by trying to be a playmaker.

Trying being the keyword there.

Ra1d8/26/2015, 3:36:41 AM2 votes

All i can say is your freind needsto stop watching youtubers, they gibe good advice but if youre not following it you wont grow as a player and since his playstyle doesnt seem to evolve then hes not learning

Valderis Vandala8/27/2015, 1:19:26 AM1 votes

Talk to him, tell him the truth, he is terrible at the game and its no fun to play with him the way he acts now. If that doesn't work then he's not much of a real friend so just stop playing the game with him. There is no use on wasting your time and energy on this, he needs to come to grips with what he has become, if he can't see or accept what he is doing to other people then there is little hope for him.

Good luck, I hope he can come to his senses.

illusydara8/27/2015, 5:08:45 PM1 votes

Honestly, your best bet may be to just do whatever your friend says, and just find a way to live with it. As hard as it is to eat shit and pretend that it's delicious, it maintains stability. If you're roomates, then most of the solutions for dealing with a controlling friend stand the chance of directly impacting your life. Most of the time, control freaks don't have constructive discussions where they set ground rules for their behavior. They're crazy people. You can't beat crazy people with logic, or rationality. You can only beat them with escalation. There's no telling how that will turn out, because there's no telling just how far you may have to go in the game of escalation. It works, but it takes a toll. And, for that reason, I believe that the path of least resistance is to just let him annex the Sudetenland. So to speak.

Tyren8/26/2015, 4:10:40 PM1 votes

I have a friend that is obsessed with kills. So much if we don't get a kill bot lane he blames me. I'm like dude, we pushed them out of lane just farm up because 15 ish cs equals a kill. It doesn't grasp the concept of you can win your lane with out killing them by having a much higher cs score than them.

Code8/26/2015, 7:12:23 PM1 votes

tell your friend to stop running ghost on volibear :p

blkKalameet8/26/2015, 10:53:10 PM1 votes

My advice is to stop playing with him as much if he's going to drag you down like that. There's no point to continue playing with him if he can't keep himself under control.

Pushing an advantage is normally a good idea, but if doing So puts you at a great risk to lose the advantage then it's normally not worth it. Its better to maintain your advantage and do your best to deny then cs and to make the advantage more noticeable.