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Easy step by step guide to go from silver to gold

MrSc0tty··32 votes·33,299 views

Hey you. Silver player. You have a 50% winrate in silver, but you understand much more about the game than your teammates normally do. You're frustrated-you try to be the nice guy, you try to fill and not troll, and you still can't budge your win rate. You just want to be friggin gold already, you have beaten golds, and you know you're just as good.

Well, let me tell you something you'll like: you are, about half to a third of the time. Now let me tell you something you don't like: you're also bronze level half the time. Let me explain.

Think of your brain like a computer. You've got all the important information on your hard drive, all the things you need to do tactically and strategically to play the game. But you've only got so much processing power. And when you have to think about how to play a champion, the nitty gritty of their mechanics and landing their skillshots and timing their abilities...you can't think about warding, and map awareness, and team coordination. Unfamiliarity with the champ takes up too much space. That's bronze level play.

Step 1: I need you to go to the website OP.gg. Were going on a fact finding mission together. If you've never looked at this website, start now, it's a fantastic source of info. Search your summoner name and head over to the Champions tab.

Step 2: the math step. Take a look at your top four most played champions. Calculate your win rate when you play those champs, overall. Now, tally up the games from all the champions you played less than ten games with throughout the season. I'll tell you my ratios: 68% and 35%. See what I mean by gold play and bronze play? Your comfortable champions, in silver, in the roles where you know what to do and you do it well, are always going to be better than filling to avoid rage, or a "great" counterpick.

Step 3: The game plan. First off, you will always call your comfort role or roles in ranked. Call them, but if someone else is ahead of you in pick order, let it slide. If youre ahead in pick order, say "Sorry X, I'm going Y " and if they throw a hissy fit, let it slide as well. If you have 2 comfort roles, you should get them 9 times out of 10 if you follow these steps particularly if one of them is support/jungle.

Step 4: Find your backup picks. When forced into the roles you are not comfortable with, you need to have a SAFE, EASY fallback champ whose mechanics you are comfortable with. I use Heimerdinger mid, Maokai top, and Caitlyn ADC. These games, you want to cultivate a zen attitude. It's out of your hands. You're not going to carry, you're just going to be one member of the team who absolutely does not feed. That's your objective, a nice, even 50% win rate. Much, much better than trying to carry in a role you're bad at and getting hammered and losing the game for your team. Just maintain a positive atmosphere, and be totally chill-you know it won't be your fault if your team fails here, and hey, with you making sure you don't feed they have good chances of winning too.

Step 5: Watch your winrate rise to be much closer to that of your best champs. This was it, for me. I went into the site, saw " oh hey, I have a 74% winrate with Rammus, a 65% with Thresh and a 80% with Leona. I'll just call supp/jungle every game and play them no matter what" and I was gold in 25 games from Silver IV all season.

30 Comments

Tocosamuri11 votes

I don't get what was disrespectful about this thread? He is giving smart and good advice to help people get ahead. This is seen way too much in this community, why is that guy so sensitive? You realistically cant give your team tips anymore because people are ridiculously over sensitive and accuse you of being toxic, by then there is almost no changing their attitude and its going to be a rough carry.

Ex: ping bush ......ping bush..... ping bush... "supp can you please ward that bush so we can have vision in the river and not get ganked?"... "omg stfu scrub" this is whats wrong. Please people just understand someone is just trying to help you out.

Mayor Stubbs6 votes

Actually pretty good advice, I do this exact thing.

MrSc0tty3 votes

Actually pretty good advice, I do this exact thing.

Not intended to be disrespectful at all.

I am not a Plat+ player. I have the game knowledge and strategy to play at a gold level, but can't apply that when I have to apply concentration and thinking to an unfamiliar, complex champion or a role I am less familiar with.

Therefore, playing Riven top I would be a Bronze level player, and my games would trend my MMR towards bronze.

However, playing Thresh Support, my MMR trends towards gold.

If I want my MMR to be gold, then, the clear and easiest answer is "never play riven, actively avoid top if possible, always call support and pick thresh regardless of matchup."

I promised a quick and easy way to get from silver to gold. This method required me to learn no additional champs, change nothing of my in game playstyle, and exhibit only minor attitude adjustments.

OhBoyItsaMegaman3 votes

I feel I need to squeeze in the warning that "Correlation does not imply causation."

There are a huge number of potential small issues that may cause someone to have higher or lower win rates on certain champions, and these add up. Certain things that cause you to have a low win rate may be what's causing you to choose the champion.

For example, let's say that you usually only pick Jax to counter Tryndamere, and you're a decent Jax, but your team usually loses because Tryndamere is a really strong pick at your Elo, or is overpowered on the current patch. Enemy Trynd causes Jax, Enemy Trynd causes loss, but Jax doesn't necessarily cause loss.

Another hypothetical example: Malphite is more commonly banned at Bronze V than Bronze I. You play Malphite when he's not banned, and you're a decent Malphite. You lose more often at high Elo than at low Elo. High Elo causes Malphite, High Elo causes loss, but Malphite doesn't necessarily cause loss.

These are extreme examples, but even a whole lot of small influences can add up to a very high or very low win%. Avoiding Jax and Malphite is not really necessary because they're simply correlated with losses. They're not causing them.

Pudii Pudii2 votes

This guy gets it, keep the champion pool small and the roles to 2-3 and you'll climb in no time. The less you have to think about your champion the more you can focus on other things in the game to help the rest of your team.

I went from gold 3 to Plat 4 this season playing Fizz, Fiora, Lulu and pantheon. I might get called a one trick pony but as long as I'm winning and having fun I could care less.

Honestly if I had the time I probably could have kept on rolling with this strategy all the way to at least plat 1 or 2. But with recently graduating college and starting work full time I've decayed quite a bit nearing the end of the season.

Hope to schedule my time better for season 5 and finally reach diamond.

NightEfx1 votes

I expected to come and see something not disrespectful but..wasted my time.

MrSc0tty12 votes

I expected to come and see something not disrespectful but..wasted my time.

As a demonstration (no insult intended here, my own page looks almost exactly the same) you played about 470 ranked games.

231 with your top seven most played "comfort picks." 55% winrate overall here.

Approximately 240 (my math may be slightly off) games played with other champs. Mostly <10 per champ. Overall winrate for these games: 33%.

Had you played only your comfort picks, you most likely would be gold pretty quickly and easily. I would recommend prioritizing calling jungle, with your general picks being Amumu for tank, or Xin Zhao if the team requires damage. Otherwise, prioritize Braum support, taking Karma if he is banned or picked. This is a handy setup for you, as Xin neatly counters Amumu, and Karma counters Braum-a lucky coincidence.

loseriamaloser2 votes

I don't think it was disrespectful, in fact I think the advice here will help me. I'm not ranked yet and mostly play ARAM, but even still: when I roll an OP champ, even one I've only played a couple of times, I sometimes push myself to carry and that often ends badly. I think the advice about just concentrating on not feeding with unfamiliar champs is helpful. Thanks, OP!

ChimeiTekinaNasu1 votes

Well, let me tell you something you'll like: you are, about half to a third of the time. Now let me tell you something you don't like: you're also bronze level half the time. Let me explain.

Think of your brain like a computer. You've got all the important information on your hard drive, all the things you need to do tactically and strategically to play the game. But you've only got so much processing power. And when you have to think about how to play a champion, the nitty gritty of their mechanics and landing their skillshots and timing their abilities...you can't think about warding, and map awareness, and team coordination. Unfamiliarity with the champ takes up too much space. That's bronze level play.

Step 2: the math step. Take a look at your top four most played champions. Calculate your win rate when you play those champs, overall. Now, tally up the games from all the champions you played less than ten games with throughout the season. I'll tell you my ratios: 68% and 35%. See what I mean by gold play and bronze play? Your comfortable champions, in silver, in the roles where you know what to do and you do it well, are always going to be better than filling to avoid rage, or a "great" counterpick.

Step 4: Find your backup picks. When forced into the roles you are not comfortable with, you need to have a SAFE, EASY fallback champ whose mechanics you are comfortable with. I use Heimerdinger mid, Maokai top, and Caitlyn ADC. These games, you want to cultivate a zen attitude. It's out of your hands. You're not going to carry, you're just going to be one member of the team who absolutely does not feed. That's your objective, a nice, even 50% win rate. Much, much better than trying to carry in a role you're bad at and getting hammered and losing the game for your team. Just maintain a positive atmosphere, and be totally chill-you know it won't be your fault if your team fails here, and hey, with you making sure you don't feed they have good chances of winning too.

So what would you say about my champions?? I already know a bit about mine but sometimes it's nice to get an opinion from another person's point of view. I'll explain some of my highest played champs and 50% winrate champs first though. Volibear/Renekton/Shen are my mains for top lane. Mostly Volibear/Renekton are my real main champs. I know everything in and out about them. Can beat most top laners with them, too. However, I felt Volibear kind of fell off. I just don't feel like I can carry matches with him the way I use to, or maybe the way to do it has changed. I don't know. Usually use him top lane, kind of want to put him back in the jungle recently but meh. He's my real main champ. Over 400+ normal matches with him. Kind of dropped him after a bit of using him in ranked though. Renekton got me from Bronze to Silver in 20 games. For some reason, couldn't do that with Volibear. Then I dropped Renekton ever since his ult nerf and other changes, I don't know, but something has felt wrong with him since. I remember when I had 100 health and died to turret shot just barely. Kind of wished I had that early HP of his ult back. So lately, I've been using Fizz/Maokai/Skarner/Lulu/Nami. Each had about 50% winrate until about recently. Sometimes I feel like my losses with Lulu/Nami is cause we needed a tank and we didn't have one. My Ahri is good but I don't use her match. I have 100% winrate with Sona in the 3 matches I've used her but she's so boring to play as. I seem to do consistently well with Janna, but meh. I've also won both my Irelia games so far. Maokai/Skarner got me out of low Silver. As I climb higher in rank, I've recently felt that my Fizz needs a bit more work and that Maokai/Skarner get easily countered. Lulu/Nami/Janna, sometimes I feel like we need a tank instead but sometimes get bored of only using Leona.

So yeah. From your point of view, what would you say about my champions?? Curious to see another person's opinion about it.

MrSc0tty2 votes

From my point of view, you might have to go the hard route of "get better" to get gold. Your winrates are pretty dang close to 50% on all your major champs except for Fizz.

It's a common practice for silver players to learn all the in game knowledge required for gold, then get frustrated because they're still stuck. This is because they can only apply that gold level decision making on a champ they're exceedingly comfortable with, and they cling to the silly idea that they need to play "OP" champs or "counterpick".

My guide is just a quick and dirty way to squeeze out Elo by playing at your absolute peak of skill. It's not an actual improvement as a player, it's more like unlocking your potential if you're frustrated where you are.

If you cut out fizz and incidental Counterpicks from your ranked play, I'd be willing to bet you shoot up to S1. Gold may take some time and luck but you could do it if you stayed consistent. Statistically Leona is actually your strongest pick. I'd say due to how similar in playstyle he is to voli and how strong he is in soloQ, your Skarner jungle may hold some solid potential

Akeito1 votes

Good stuff, I knew that Silver Jungle and Sup is so bad that it pain me to look at them play so i just forced myself to play it for the sake of having good jungler and result in my team being 4 very, very normal silver teammate. I'm also that type of guy who hate adc even more than Teemo. I reject the fact that I'm actually a better player in playing adc more than Jungle, Top and Mid, I'll try to follow what my stats said and try vayne and lucian so see if they can carry me out of silver

shalexade1 votes

Solid advice Mr. Scotty.

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

Based on your advice I'm better off playing support and adc. Problem is that my friends and other players highly recommend that I play ADC more to get out of Bronze.

MrSc0tty1 votes

Based on your advice I'm better off playing support and adc. Problem is that my friends and other players highly recommend that I play ADC more to get out of Bronze.

My advice to anyone stuck so low in bronze is this:

Pick a champ. Maybe Trist ADC for you. Go into normals. Play 10 games, with TB it should be easy to get 10 in a row with that champ. Focus solidly on improving your farm and reducing your deaths. Not increasing kills-reducing deaths. Then go back to ranked and try calling that chl every time.

Once you start to learn the mechanics by heart (for instance you find yourself instinctively hitting your Q and E every fight as it starts, you're not screwed up farming with E passive, and you never save people with R) then you'll start to think more about what you're doing and where your enemies are and what you want to accomplish in game than you spend time thinking about trying to get that CS or land that jump.

Matt The Hero1 votes

This is extremely great advice. Any chance you could check my stats? I've played a large amount of ranked games this season (it was my first ever ranked season, and I had just hit level 30 at the beginning, so I spammed games--and lost a majority of the early ones).

MrSc0tty1 votes

This is extremely great advice. Any chance you could check my stats? I've played a large amount of ranked games this season (it was my first ever ranked season, and I had just hit level 30 at the beginning, so I spammed games--and lost a majority of the early ones).

Easy. Call jungle/ADC. Play Zac/Jinx. If forced to fill you will probably support, play Thresh. Avoid Lucian, I suspect that like me, having a dash on an ADC when you're used to having fallback cc (like when you play Jinx/Varus) leads you to be cautious when you don't need to be and cocky when you shouldn't be.

You don't have absurdly high winrates with those champs but Jinx is obviously a solid comfort pick. Learning her in and out will allow you to easily learn some of the more important strategic concepts in lane phase and beyond, so you can consistently stomp lane. Helpfully, Jinx is a really solid soloQ pick.

Chortle1 votes

If you have a champion that you do really well with and can also fill multiple roles, you will always be able to fill and yet help carry the game due to your understanding of the champion.

For me, that has been Sejuani .

Top/mid/jungle/supp

Chances of me getting any of those are really high. Build changes depending on the needed role. I got from Silver II to Gold V in 41 games (actually less because that includes some TT games I played with friends).

Also, I suggest watching streamers on Twitch if you want to learn better mechanics. This really helped me iron out my rough roles (jungle/top).

Bionic Avian1 votes

I used a method of "what am I doing wrong?" Or scarra's "I suck" method. Sure, you can say you're good, but going into a game and losing should be equally as affective in teaching someone like winning a game.

Colossus Hunter1 votes

it is pretty good advice i will start to implement these tips into my game.

spawnman621 votes

So If possible, can you explain what this info means to me in my case? I want to play support, usually get forced into jng. I'm 100% with nunu in jng but 50% or less on supp. Does this mean I should jng main?

MrSc0tty1 votes

{quoted} So If possible, can you explain what this info means to me in my case? I want to play support, usually get forced into jng. I'm 100% with nunu in jng but 50% or less on supp. Does this mean I should jng main?

You have way, way too few games played to make that call at the moment. You have 2 wins on Nunu and you're considering maining jungle?

At the moment, I advise you to take a step back. If you're like me, you're heading into ranked too early and don't have enough experience in any one role to truly gain any benefit from 'maining' it. I'll tell you in the lower Elo levels, the best supports are the ones who can be tanky disruptors and who can hard carry botlane if necessary. If you haven't yet tried Leona, I'd advise picking her up as she's easy and extremely powerful.

I'd say if you want to avoid dropping your MMR into bronze like I did (you do) you should go play 10-15 normals in a row with your favorite champions, learn their ins and outs and most importantly how they make a team win, then try ranked with them.

spawnman621 votes

So I shouldn't play ranked then? I've played yi, nunu, and lux since i've started. yi changed, nunu got a new kit. i've been support since lvl 21.

MrSc0tty1 votes

{quoted} So I shouldn't play ranked then? I've played yi, nunu, and lux since i've started. yi changed, nunu got a new kit. i've been support since lvl 21.

How recently did you hit level 30?

What happened to me was I hit 30, played ranked, placed into silver IV and absolutely TANKED my MMR until I was in basically bronze. Then it was a frustrating climb to dig myself out because I didn't have any way of tracking my progress as I was gaining very little LP and losing a lot. It's not something Id like anyone to have to do.

spawnman621 votes

Understood. I hit 30 early November. I placed silver V. I checked my MMR and it was at 1300ish, where average silver V is around 1285. I learned to play support in the team builder option with me getting friend requests from gold players. Haven't got to play with them lately, which is why I've been doing ranked. It's a lot more challenging than normal team builder. It just happens to be quite a bit more toxic as well.

MrSc0tty1 votes

{quoted} Understood. I hit 30 early November. I placed silver V. I checked my MMR and it was at 1300ish, where average silver V is around 1285. I learned to play support in the team builder option with me getting friend requests from gold players. Haven't got to play with them lately, which is why I've been doing ranked. It's a lot more challenging than normal team builder. It just happens to be quite a bit more toxic as well.

Yes, it definitely is. You're going to be playing with a lot lower quality players, which is kind of why I would discourage Soraka (lux should be alright) and encourage Leona.

I'd say go back to spamming TB support for a while. You'll have a better time, and you can start fresh in ranked with the new season after the initial month of craziness is over, and you'll have the edge over other S5 players. Don't think of normals as a waste of time, think of them as a way to get free skill level increases without hurting your ranked MMR

spawnman621 votes

Alright then, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one. I'd much rather learn from someone else's mistakes than to make the same ones myself. So just do TB until season starts up again? What will happen to my ranking now?

MrSc0tty1 votes

{quoted} Alright then, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this one. I'd much rather learn from someone else's mistakes than to make the same ones myself. So just do TB until season starts up again? What will happen to my ranking now?

Just like everyone else, your MMR will "reset". It will go halfway from where you are now to Silver V (so in your case, not much of anywhere) and then you'll play your 10 placements again and get placed. I would advise waiting at least two weeks after the reset to run your placements-that time period is notorious for tossing you into some crazy matchups because it'll be like "okay my team is a former bronze V, me, a former silver 2, a bronze 4 and a platinum. This should be interesting"

After that though, your rank will never go anywhere. I got mine to Gold V for the rewards, then just switched to TB because I find it more fun and just left it for 4 months so I could get my victorious skin.

WoodenIncubus1 votes

I ruined my ranked seasons for a while because i started in S3 as soon as I hit 30. I now main ADC, not because I like it, but because I'm good at it. Don't ruin your stuff until you find somewhere and someone you are comfortable with in each lane.

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