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"This is Just Norms", "I'm playing for fun", etc.. (Negative attitude/mentality)

FierceSTEAK·5/31/2015, 7:24:31 AM·16 votes·3,360 views

I see that all the time whenever I play norms. I see a feeder and when one of my teammates confronts, complains, or w/e, the feeder says one of those two, talks back, or just ignores.

The problem is really not the feeder, but the attitude that the feeder has.

Some people ONLY play normal games, and normals to them are like ranked to a lot of us who mostly play ranked games.

And when the feeders or whoever is doing bad have/has this kind of mentality or attitude, they are not only being inconsiderate, but they are also not making the game enjoyable for the rest of the team because they do not care much about winning.

Rhetorical Questions 1st question I have is, how exactly is feeding fun? (feeders who say i play for fun when confronted with complaints/toxicity by their teammates)

2nd I know it's 'just a norm' but do you not want to win? I mean you would rather win than lose, right?

In Closing I know a lot of people who only/mostly play ranked will take normals a lot less seriously such as myself, but guys let us still do our best in normal games for the sake of our teammates, and hey, I would ALWAYS rather win than lose :D

Have Fun and Good Luck!

35 Comments

qetzel5/31/2015, 11:08:19 AM12 votes

Your "feeder" isn't intentionally feeding. Probably.

They are just being beaten by their opponent. When someone complains they try to diffuse the situation. "Calm down mate", "It is only a game", "It is supposed to be fun". They aren't saying "I don't care because this is a normal game", they are saying "Relax a little, have fun while playing, let me have fun while playing too,"

Of course they are trying to win. Of course they are. But they also want to have fun, and it isn't fun when someone goes off on you because your opponent happens to be better than you are.

Having fun and winning are not mutually exclusive.

Source: Experience. I am one of the people who is trying to have fun.

AyRe CoNteMpT5/31/2015, 8:50:51 AM6 votes

i think people who complain about feeders in normal are more toxic than people who feed in normals

Galdoblame5/31/2015, 7:50:11 AM5 votes

im one of those people who try out stuff in normal and may feed,and i m also one of those guy who think normal game are there for fun. If you take seriously a normal game as a ranked one would be,you may be over competitive and need a break imo.

Dolphron5/31/2015, 8:10:47 AM4 votes

Yeah normal games are supposed to be played for fun, and for the people who only play normal games, they just have to expect that once in a while, there are going to be weird things in normal games. I have tried doing random things like Taric top and Nasus mid recently, Of course I wouldn't want to do it in a ranked game so I'll just do it in a normal game because Co-Op vs. AI doesn't give any real experience with the champion. And of course we'd rather win, but sometimes things just aren't meant to be (When I tried Riven/Garen bot with a friend) and chances are, there will be feeding. But it is normal and there is no permanent record that's why you see people play there for the lulz

GuileRaven5/31/2015, 9:22:38 AM3 votes

Blind pick is supposed to be played for fun. If you treat it like ranked, you may as well play ranked. At least do draft pick or something. Not everyone is good at the game and many people use normals to test out new champions or new build paths. You bitching about someone feeding isn't going to make them play better. Feeding is not fun, playing the game is. When you are not having fun, chances are you going to start feeding. When your own teammates bitch about how bad you are doing, you are going to have less fun and feed more.

Lucentile5/31/2015, 6:08:03 PM3 votes

I wish people wouldn't call people having a bad game feeders.

There's a difference between the guy trying a new character and sucking and an actual intentional feeder.

Lugg5/31/2015, 7:59:18 AM2 votes

Normal is the fun mode, ranked is the serious mode. If you want to play seriously, do ranked. Yes there are retards on there as well, but it is what it is.

KING ATTILA5/31/2015, 8:50:37 AM2 votes

normals don't rank your solo q level though, so when normal players are that pushed to win...it makes no sense to play normals anymore when you can take that desire to ranked play and have it count for something.

But by all means, play to win, but you can also just focus on what you can do to win game...I've seen players in normals feed but come back later in the game and help us win *no one was like omg just stop feeding and sometimes they apologize for dying.

UrgotToBeKidding5/31/2015, 10:59:46 AM2 votes

How am I going to practice new champions if I have to tryhard in normals? Picking new champs is not trying your best. I understand the idea that you should play to win, but the reality is that people need to try inherently strange strategies, and normal is the only place to do that with players. Given that normal is for trying 'odd stuff', there isn't any reason to provoke other people to try harder.

Gym Leader Yaki5/31/2015, 12:31:26 PM2 votes

I agree with you. Of course we play normals for fun, but there's no fun in someone feeding into oblivion and crashing your game. It's not us taking normals too seriously or "it's just normals", it's the fun being taken out because of their attitude. Those people also tent for forget that, despite this being a normal, you can still have the motivation to win. Using their little quote as an excuse for anything and everything is frustrating.

But hey, there are people like that, you can't do much about it, really :s

P.S.: On a side note, I tend to play normals seriously in the event I'm trying to practice my champion pool for ranked. I'm trying to see if I want to change things around. People that say "it's just normals", tend to forget about this too. They're quite selfish IMO.

Red9For LEON26/2/2015, 6:33:59 PM1 votes

I got banned from ranked for yelling at feeders in norms because they don't care about winning. This forces me to play norms, where people don't care about winning, which causes me to be more upset when they feed, which causes me to yell at them, which causes me to get more bans from ranked.

Its a vicious cycle of rage and stupidity. Sometimes I don't know if rito actually knows what theyre doing.

xo Violet5/31/2015, 12:36:09 PM1 votes

As long as they aren't intentionally feeding/doing bad, I don't feel like it's a big deal. If you are going to take normal games that seriously, why not just play ranked and not face the problem?

a call beyond5/31/2015, 3:00:40 PM1 votes

OP is toxic /thread

Decrous5/31/2015, 3:35:17 PM1 votes

I play only normals. I hate people who complain after I pick something non-meta or I have a bad game. Usually I just ignore everyone if they start being toxic, but it also comes off as the "normal tryhards" being toxic or having a negative attitude if they start criticizing you for the champion you pick or something like that.

TMIT6/1/2015, 2:29:07 PM1 votes

You have to try new stuff somewhere, and using it against bots will not give you a representative picture of how it will work in ranked. If you try something new in normals and it doesn't work, there's a good chance it'll result in poor performance/feeding. I feel like a lot of people don't articulate that well, or try to deflect rather than just saying it like it is.

I've had some bad games were teammates are starting to get toxic, and had them back off completely when I just say stuff like "I jumped that direction in a panic reaction and screwed up" or "It's not like I'm sucking this game on purpose :D". I find most players will, if you acknowledge you're playing poorly, leave it at that (for my part, I try to have as few bad games as possible ^_^). Then you have some people who are just completely unreasonable, those you just don't talk to and ignore. There's not sense beating your head on a wall. The majority of people are just frustrated with bad play because they want to win though.

All that said, in ranked or normals it's annoying when you play well but someone has a spectacularly awful game, just keep in mind that they're probably not having a bad game on purpose and that there's no realistic alternative for them (except ranked, which would be worse). If you do have the rare intentional feeder, there's not a lot that you can say that will change his mind and make him into a strong teammate, just report that behavior and move on.

Hal Su Ice06/1/2015, 2:32:15 PM1 votes

Does this mean we will start seeing bans for people who say "I'm just playing for fun"?

LordTrevas6/1/2015, 9:05:13 PM1 votes

Stop being so mad and item 3070 so much.

Ih8ucuzurtoxic6/1/2015, 9:25:56 PM1 votes

Question 1: I've seen feeding be fun. It was friggin hilarious. This group of 5 friends q'd up and had their fiddlesticks try to run to our nexus. If he got there, he would yell TOUCHDOWN!!!! in all chat. His team stayed in lane and farmed incredible cs while fiddle slowely became a worthless kill and ALL of our team ran around chasing him the entire match.

Before we even knew what happened we were behind 3 towers and about 5k gold.

We ended up losing the match and their fiddle never got over level 3. Was an interesting lesson in how much xp and cs matter over kills.

THAT being said, I think "this is just norms" or "I feed cause it's fun" is just a bunch of lame brain excuse for people to justify extreme losses in their mind. The people who say this are very, very rarely the ones carrying the team and are most likely just as bad in ranked.

COWmanLord6/1/2015, 9:54:19 PM1 votes

I always try in normal games. I take them less seriously, but only to the extent that I will go full ap nunu mid or thresh adc in a normal when I wouldn't do that in ranked.