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I'm not learning from my losses, at all

AstroFerrari ·7/26/2015, 6:02:58 AM·1 votes·1,009 views

I've been trying to apply some past advice I made in a thread earlier this week, but I'm really not learning anything from my losses. While I don't truly feel all that bad, it's hard to tell myself "focus only on what I can do better and try very hard not to blame your team". Today, an adc Vayne on my team when 0/18/0 and blamed the loss on me for not jungling well when he or she lost bot lane right out of the gate. Now what most people are telling me is to articulate this and tell myself "this loss was no ones fault, I would've won if I did my job better". I'm sorry but that's total garbage to be. Granted I'm not the best player but I know I'm halfway decent. While I am still learning to jungle, I can put 2 and 2 together and know that my ganks have to be at least somewhat coordinated, and they shouldnt be done when I'm low on health from farming. All I'm really learning from this losing streak that I'm on is that the other team simply played better than my team did and probably had better coordination. In solo q, the communication is always lacking no matter how much I try to talk or people are just trolls. Should I only play with people on my friends list?

Any advice is appreciated, thank you for your time.

11 Comments

AirSonance7/26/2015, 7:21:24 AM1 votes

I'll leave this bit of advice I found on a different post. Talk to yourself as you play, even just in your head, and say what you're doing and why. For example, "I'm doing 'a' because 'b.'" If you can find a reason to justify what you're doing, then do it. Otherwise, find something else. If you get good at this, you can get more complicated with an explanation of "I'm doing 'a' because 'b.' I could be doing 'c,' but 'a' puts me more ahead because 'd.'"

Something to tack onto this. If what you're doing isn't putting you or a teammate ahead, then it's not worth it. You want to always be doing something to get your team ahead. Got nothing better to do? Get a deep jungle ward. Steal a camp. Push a lane. Take Drag/Baron. If there's truly nothing else to do, group with the rest of your team. No matter what happens, your team is always stronger together.

Angry Monster7/26/2015, 7:35:20 AM1 votes

I am going to address the Vayne thing. What did you do change the pace of the game, when Vayne is losing? Yes the Vayne sounds terrible, but once behind it can be hard for a bot lane (with no chemistry) to make a come back.

First you need to start off how did the bot lane get so out of controal. Was it enemy jungle pressue, wandering mid laner, teleporting top lane, or just getting out played? What ever the answer is; what did you do to help compensate?

Are you trying to turn around the other lane intervention? Are you watching mid turn to leave so you can intercept and pick them off or push down the tower? Are you getting your other lanes ahead so they are big enough threat that vayne can try to farm up at deeper tower while you are 4v5?

Yeah Vayne did horrible and was looking for an escape goat, but that does not matter. What did you do when the problem started (Vayne dying) to try to fix the game. What ever it was it did not work and you should look to what you did and adjust your game play from there ( as jungler).

Xyexs7/26/2015, 1:35:06 PM1 votes

When people say that they don't mean every loss is always on you. What's important is that whenever something fails or you die you think about what you could have done better, and try to do it better next time.

chide da jungler7/26/2015, 1:40:48 PM1 votes

In lower elo (silver or less), you'll find it VERY hard to carry games if you play junglers that depend on teamwork. For instance I have a 75% winrate with jungle teemo on my gold smurf, but when I tried playing it in lower elo it was something like 55%. In lower elo you need to play champions who can make plays often and can turn things around easily ON THEIR OWN because your team is going to suck.

Expect you solo laners never to roam and the enemies' will. You bot lane will not be responsive to your ganks, but the enemies' will. The enemy jungler will counter-jungle you and your team will usually make little effort to help you. You will get blamed for everything because you are jungle; even if someone dies before you finish your first buff (has happened to me).

Use champs like udyr or vi, who can do everything themselves if needed.

iluvalar7/26/2015, 2:37:06 PM1 votes

I don't agree with some comment here. If Vayne went 0/18/0 she was trash. Vayne is a range champion with a good escape. She can easily stay in EXP range and even CS at least at 40% without dying at all. Instead she chose to takes risk, she gave to her laner a equivalent of 270 extra CS with bad decisions and bad positioning.

If you can't every game learn from your small mistakes, at least those of Vayne are big enough to get a lesson from them.

0/1/0 : play safe, the exp range is large you never have to walk into the opponent range, so you shouldn't die again.

0/2/0 : Ok you played safish, but you got ganked. Buy a ward next time it wont happen again.

0/3/0 : Oh gosh.. You wont do damage, you just give kills. So stop building damage, stop giving kills and maybe someone else in your team is less trash then you and will carry you.

0/4/0 : Read 0/3/0 ! 0/5/0 : Read 0/3/0 ! 0/6/0 : Read 0/3/0 ! 0/7/0 : You still have no armor, you still walk into the opponents range, you still burn your thumble and not keep it for escaping. uninstall