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Bronze Problems

Preymaker··5 votes·1,776 views

Ally Jungle blitzcrank. 0/10. Ally Top lane urgot. 1/13. Enemy Support gangplank. 12/2

those were my last three games. Though i've risen from b5 to b2 in 3 days after i stopped playing for six months and decayed from s1 to b1 then played and dropped straight to b5 coz i was trash. Practiced, yada yada, anyways-

I've been playing normals and practicing and i still have a long way to go before I'm 'good' at this game. Right now I'm acceptable, but there are really terrible players in silver and bronze that make you go like... WTF????

So you tell them to maybe practice a little bit before playing ranked so they don't ruin it for others and they take it as a tremendous insult and either start feeding/raging/afking.

Never have i encountered a proactive feeder. Someone willing to get better. /rant

I have 800 games played total (normals and ranked), how many games do you think it takes, if I'm actively trying to get better, to reach, say, gold or plat level play?

21 Comments

FyreNinja5 votes

I played 500 games to get from b5 to s5, I feel the struggle. For the record, I'm struggling in silver now

What happened for me is that everything "clicked." That is very cliche, and doesnt help much, but it is the easiest thing to describe what truly happened. Other thoughts ** 1. csing went from 70-80 at 15 min to about 120 ** 2. laning mechanics improved. The point is for you to have more kills and minions than your opponent out of laning phase. With that said, push hard when your opp. is out of lane, so that most of yours are taken by their turret. ** 3. ** Ward shit. Bronze players aren't completely stupid, they dont intentionally walk into fatal situations, but they will when they don't know that a fatal situation exists (such as a collapse by 3 fed enemies) Even if you are the only one on your team with all three wards placed, chances are your team has more wards on the map than their team does. 4. Midgame is when my playing falls off the most. #1, recognize what you suck at in game and improve it. #2. MAXIMIZE WHAT YOU DO MIDGAME. The reason I say this is because I could have 120 cs at 15 minutes and then 5 minutes later, have 127 cs. I did nothing but roam and look for low percentage kills those 5 minutes, and gained about 300 gold during that time. I could have gotten 40 more cs, and snowballed for my team, without the low percentage kills I thought I needed. 5. Late game is when bronze players struggle, mainly because of poor prioritizing and decision making. People need leaders, and no where is this more true than in League. Be aggressive, type in chat (without flaming). If YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO, say it. Get their attention.

If you do these things without fail, you are guaranteed to escape bronze. Add me (FyreNinja) if you want to duo, I'm currently Silver rn.

Good Luck and Have Fun!

(PS) NEVER, EVER, EVER flame. If you are, it is probably because that person did something wrong, and that same person will not be willing to take shit from a fellow bronze player. In his head, he thinks he should be diamond, and doesnt want to be told differently. Stay positive, never surrender until 2 inhibs are down (why purposely lose a ranked game) and stop playing when you begin to go on tilt.

GLHF!

The Mormonator3 votes

No amount of games simply played can make you better if you aren't learning anything from them :) Try finding out what your weakness are, say asking someone of a higher elo to watch you or play with you, and try to fix them.

StOrmysLIVE2 votes

if you are interested, i'll do a 1 on 1 with you to help iron out the stuff that makes you fail. add me in game stormysbigsword

Preymaker1 votes

I really appreciate that. I'll add you tomorrow, done playing for today :)

Venompaw2 votes

feeding isn't really a problem cause it's a per match basis thing, I can go 0-7, just as easily as I can go 7-0. You don't need to practice to play ranked, that's what elo is for.

AetherKingdom1 votes

everyone in silver/bronze bad. u must b the alpha noob to win

KwangoTango1 votes

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AetherKingdom1 votes

Alright. I know that you're trolling, but speaking as a silver scrub, we're not all bad (i might be ;-;, but not everyone here). All (some) challenger players started in bronze. They worked their way up to where they are now from learning from their mistakes, and used other people's advice to improve. Now, I normally wouldn't say this, but you've been so toxic, so stuck up, on so many posts, that I will.

1v1 me, m8

eat a dick

Venompaw1 votes
    • Cs doesn't matter too much it's all relative. Denying cs is probably more important that getting cs yourself (depending on champs you play).

2- Laning- depending on the champ you play, sometimes you rely on outscaling, other times you have to win early or be useless.

3- Wards are only useful if you plan to do something with the information they provide. As in, don't have vision for the sake of having vision, it alone is not useful at all.

4- Typically my games in mid game involve 3 people walking back n forth in mid trying to get a tower / force an engage, 1 person split pushing, 1 person in jungle.

CS is NOT important, If you're mid don't expect cs, you're being useful instead.

5- get ANY objective, but if you have to choose, pick baron always.

Killer X 121 votes

I'd say that is extremely untrue. I can play a game where mid has 10 kills by 20 mins and i'll have more money than them because they don't farm. Sure how much money you have relative to the other person is what is important, but if you don't focus on getting yourself as much money as possible then you are already behind. I'd say that in lane you don't lose cs in order to deny cs, thats just making it so everyone is more behind, the games will last longer. Then it turns to who uses the map resources better, and low elo players do not use map resources well.

Doesn't matter if the ward helps you, it matters if the ward helps someone. If i'm playing support, and the other lane backs, i'm roaming. When i'm roaming i'm throwing a ward down in top river, or perhaps by a buff. That does not help me, but that might help someone else. You should always be trying to ward, not just "oh i don't need to ward right now because I MYSELF" don't need the vision. Perhaps that is not what you meant, but your statement's content was so blatantly obv that i have to assume what you meant was wrong lol.

You should have between 150-200 cs at 20 when you are a mid laner lol.

Oh, actually perhaps your post was a troll... you did say that Baron > everything else so i have to assume you are trolling.

2 inhib > baron 2 towers +dragon > baron (if the other team cannot respond with baron) There are even times when 1 tower +dragon > baron, if your team is in a position that after you take baron you'd be too low and lose a team fight, or be so low that you'd give up 1 or 2 towers and dragon. Depends on where the teams are money wise and how deep into a game you are as well.

Venompaw1 votes

I'd say that is extremely untrue. I can play a game where mid has 10 kills by 20 mins and i'll have more money than them because they don't farm. Sure how much money you have relative to the other person is what is important, but if you don't focus on getting yourself as much money as possible then you are already behind. I'd say that in lane you don't lose cs in order to deny cs, thats just making it so everyone is more behind, the games will last longer. Then it turns to who uses the map resources better, and low elo players do not use map resources well.

Doesn't matter if the ward helps you, it matters if the ward helps someone. If i'm playing support, and the other lane backs, i'm roaming. When i'm roaming i'm throwing a ward down in top river, or perhaps by a buff. That does not help me, but that might help someone else. You should always be trying to ward, not just "oh i don't need to ward right now because I MYSELF" don't need the vision. Perhaps that is not what you meant, but your statement's content was so blatantly obv that i have to assume what you meant was wrong lol.

You should have between 150-200 cs at 20 when you are a mid laner lol.

Oh, actually perhaps your post was a troll... you did say that Baron > everything else so i have to assume you are trolling.

2 inhib > baron 2 towers +dragon > baron (if the other team cannot respond with baron) There are even times when 1 tower +dragon > baron, if your team is in a position that after you take baron you'd be too low and lose a team fight, or be so low that you'd give up 1 or 2 towers and dragon. Depends on where the teams are money wise and how deep into a game you are as well.

baron > 2 inhib because with baron buff you can snowball the advantage. however, 2 inhib towers might > baron because it gives you the opportunity to fight in an open field.

baron is worth it if you can take it without risk even if you don't need it, just so the other team can't take it.

Killer X 121 votes

Baron does not > 2 inhibs because when you have 2 inhibs down you certainly have at least one of the outer turrets in the other lane down. This puts map pressure and forces the other team into their base to defend. You baron after the two inhibs and make them chose between taking that fight or losing nexus turrets. If they take the fight you just do the dance for alittle while and then they have to back, you get free baron. Or they stay, you get free nexus turrets.

Killer X 121 votes

I think a big reason why the scores are so crazy in bronze (i'm not a bronze player so i can't say for certain), is actually because of all the smurfs. Like, if anyone of us were to make a new account and play with others about level 5 or so i'm 100 percent sure that 7 of the 10 players in that game would be smurfs lol

Preymaker1 votes

But why would a smurf be placed in bronze in the first place?

Elo boosters makes sense, yes. And I can also attest to your statement, that yes, most low level players nowadays are smurfs

Killer X 121 votes

Because they want to play with bad ppl. You level in bot games till 30, lose your provo games (Win 3 or less and ur prolly gonna be in bronze for a new account)

Then you just play till you get 100 ip. Dodge a few games. Do it again. The reason ppl smurf is because they want to play against shittier ppl than they usually would. Why else would you put effort into a second account when you have time and perhaps money into a main one? If you go through these forums, or even on twitch you can find someone showing how to go from bronze to diamond. Someone is doing it literally every day, even LCS players have admitted to internal competitions about getting accounts from bronze to challenger. You just intentionally lose placement games, fucking other people over.

Also, i wouldn't say most low elo players are smurfs. Top 20 percent is gold V is above. That means that 80 percent of the player base is silver and bronze. I dont' think a majority of that are smurfs, i just think that there are a fair amount of people who do smurf at low elo for easy face rolly wins.

Again, I dont' smurf, i'm not bronze, but this is what i see.

Dark Topline1 votes

Honestly, it really depends on how much effort you put into rising above the rest. You've got to carry your team to get out of elo hell, and I don't like to come out sounding negative, but if you want to move up in the ladder, you've got to stay in the mind-set that your team's simply not competent.

I started LoL about three months ago, and League being my first MOBA ever, I dedicated time to watching numerous streams/YouTube guides on how to improve my game, as well as taking into account every tip a better player gave me. Fortunately for me, by the time I joined League of Legends, I already had a group of silver/gold and platinum friends playing who were there to teach me the basics and guide me to be the player I am today.

I've played under 200 normal games, played my first two ranked placements games today, and had to carry both games. You need to feel comfortable in the champion you play, and confident you can carry with them against anybody. To put things in perspective, my team won matches, myself going 6/1/11 my first match, and 11/0/9 my second.

In short, I'm not saying I'm all that of an amazing player, probably high bronze/low silver at this point. But I know that if you duo queue with a friend in a higher elo, accept their tips/tricks, are prepared to altar your play-style and begin to once again play frequently, you'll move up the ladder smoothly to gold.

Best of luck!

Timewinder1 votes

penis? penis.

Direwolfiez1 votes

I went 7/3 as Ezreal, while our Yasuo and Akali tried to 1v3/4/5 and repeatedly dived turrets to kill squishies when they didn't know where the rest of the team was. They were Gold, and I have a hidden elo of ~high Bronze or low Silver (haven't played a Ranked game since the Great DDoS Attack of '14). Our Yi got Baron, then Akali and Yasou went back to their lanes while Yi, Morg and I tried to push.

Honestly, winning games with Bronze players seems to be mostly luck with who you get matched with. I've played with some good Bronze Summoners, but there's a lot of bad ones, too. Not saying I'm perfect or anything, but Jesus, some people I've played with dived 3 champs under turrets and focused the tanks.

Grizzlpaw1 votes

Stop worrying about your teammates. It distracts you from improving because, instead of looking back on what mistakes you made last game, you're focused on that dumb play your allied blitz made when he pulled amumu into your team.

Sure Blitz probably shouldn't be pulling in an amumu when he still has his ulti up, but I'm sure you're made plenty of mistakes too.

If you want to climb, the fist thing i suggest you do is not start arguments with your team. Swallow your pride and accept that mistakes are GOING to happen. I mean, these are real people you playing with,. Nobody is perfect, of course there will be mistakes. But the instant you point out those mistakes either

  1. The person gets mad. Starts Raging/Trolling/Feeding more/ect.

or

  1. They get emberassed and lose confidence, which makes them play even worse.

Good, positive attitudes win games.

Onegarion1 votes

There is no set number of games played because you still have to actually win them. There are peopel that play 50 games and make it to gold+ and then there are some who play 1000+ games to get to gold+. Its completely different for each person. Especially since some roles climb slower by average than others.

Iisa ann1 votes

Play Annie or zed, get near perfect cs' profit.

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