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HOW TO FREAKING IMPROVE MY MMR

Incarceration··1 votes·1,189 views

My mind is like dafuq. I am a pretty decent, if not good, player, but as the result of my ability to only carry if my teammates have half a brain cell, which most of them don't have, I lose more games than I win. What do I do?

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OhBoyItsaMegaman4 votes

A glance at your ranked history reveals these three things:

  • You buy less than 1 ward (greens and pinks combined) per game.
  • You almost never upgrade your trinket.
  • You consistently have more kills than deaths, even in games that you lost, and your assists tend to be lower than your kills.

I assume that you are decent mechanically (enough to murder Bronze players without getting murdered back) but that you lack a ton of knowledge about the post-laning phase, and you especially do not know how to deal with fed enemies. I suspect that whenever the enemy top or bot is doing well, you actively avoid them and try to pick off the weaker players. This results in you having many kills and few deaths while providing no real support to your team. You take the attitude of "I didn't create that Jinx problem so it's not my responsibility to solve it," and since you're the only person on the team who has the potential to solve it and you won't, they wind up beating you.

I am only making guesses based on stats, but that is what the numbers suggest to me (as well as your description of teammates with half a brain cell). Your idea of how to win the game after towers fall is so backwards that it actually negates your decent laning/mechanics. Look at the history of the Bronze 4 Braum from your recent Orianna game. Like you, he also rarely buys wards. Like you, he also rarely upgrades trinket. But his K/D/A is noticeably worse than yours. On top of that, he doesn't take Flash as a summoner spell very often. He has a support game with no Sightstone and a couple of games without boots. Despite all this, his ranked record is nearly identical to yours. That is because your knowledge of what you should be doing post-laning is so bad—even for low Bronze—that it brings you down to his level. Accept that "not my problem" is not a winning strategy, accept that you have a really poor idea of what besides kills gets you closer to winning, and look to actually improve instead of worrying about who you can blame. You will see immediate results from this.

Incarceration1 votes

What do I use to counter this? Like roaming champs? And why is it that I am as fed and as strong as the enemy, but I manage to be weaker. Please go in depth about what I should do besides improving mentality or warding?

OhBoyItsaMegaman2 votes

There are hundreds of things that you can do better. It's hard to know which things you immediately need to change, because everyone is different.

If you're already coming out of games with good KDA, I would advise you to make better use of your lead by pushing. Immediately after you kill someone, look at the map and your health, and quickly determine whether it is safe for you to push as hard as you can. In order to do this, you need to already know who their jungler is, how well he's doing, and how easily your champion can fight or escape from them. If they have a jungle Nunu who is not doing especially well, and you are Zed, you do not have to leave after you kill the midlaner even if you're at 200 health. He cannot follow you when you shadowswap or burst you down fast. If they have a Vi, the same does not apply. Also watch out for either lane roaming to mid, which is where those wards come in handy. And don't stay too long, because you want to recall and get back in lane not long after your mid opponent returns.

There are a million little things like this, too many to possibly list. Watching informational videos or streams can help a lot. You'll be exposed to ways of playing that you might have never considered before.

S2C2Xd9KOy1 votes

Glad you said it and not me :)

Angry Monster3 votes

Means that you are not at good as you think you are.

You play a lot of gimmick champs. Xin, singed pure AP cho. You are rolling the dice to see if you are going to be ahead or not. Ahead you get strong and win but these champs almost never are able to play from behind. So you steam roll through cause your ahead.

Then you builds get questionable when comes to builds. A jungle xin going straight for a bork when Item is not completed, another xin with IE...., a sight stone on lee but places 8 wards, tri force and ER on a MF build.

You may be able to out play people in b5, but your item and game choices are awkward.

Incarceration1 votes

Isn't that good when I get ahead and win? IF you say that I can outplay these guys, why shouldn't I use those champs? When those champs get ahead, they can 1 vs 1 champs like irelia and fiora. When those champs get ahead they carry, otherwise, lost games.

The ie is used to help me 1 vs 1 that irelia. It was much easier to carry that game. The ER was to manage my mana probs and the triforce was used to help her spells.

Angry Monster3 votes

First off you are not out playing. If you think xin out plays you have bigger problems than you think. Getting a head is fine, but your playing b5 and your basically cheeseing it. Your either going to be ahead or not with what you are doing. It so binary it is sad.

You do not seem to be able to come back or even play even. The fact you are not winning earlier in your game with those score is a tad sad.

IcyPepper2 votes

Are you too focused on trying to carry your team that you forget to work with them? You don't have to carry alone dude, it's a team game and it feels great to win as a team than to solo carry.

Oh, I see, you main mid. You're focused on killing the enemy team. Yeah, I suggest playing other roles as practice to understand different roles beyond the surface and learn other mechanics and strategies that midlaners don't really practice or have the opportunity to.

Also, in your latest game as Annie, you put down 4 wards in 30+ minutes. That's... terrible. If you want to get better at this game, you need to look beyond the KDA. You are not pretty decent if you do not have good warding habits, especially if you want to climb higher elos where people ward. Buy wards, get pinks, all that crap.

If by any chance you're not going to ignore my advice, I present some tips so you can improve and climb:

  1. Play support to get better warding habits and map awareness. I'm not suggesting this because it's the support's job to ward (it's not, it's everyone's job), I'm suggesting it because sightstone replenishes and it's easier than remembering to buy wards all the time. It's good practice, and you learn how to lane with someone and communicate and cooperate with both your adc and the jungler for objective control. It's also great for learning how to play defensive as well as offensively with certain kits (Hint: Don't spam Leona or Blitz, play Braum and Soraka as well. It helps).

  2. Play jungler to reinforce map awareness, timing, objective control, and global pressure. Also really helps with teamfighting.

  3. Play adc to learn how to be a little more team and positioning reliant. Learning how to rely on others, and to return the favor, is a valuable skill. Of course, you can't rely on everybody, so make sure to use good judgement and find that one guy in the game who makes the plays or whatever. And stand behind the tank.

  4. Upgrade your trinket at level 9. If you need to finish an important item, it's okay to delay the upgrade. Otherwise, 20 extra AP just isn't worth skimping out on vision.

  5. Get sightstone, or at least buy wards. I see your "support" Annie game where you set down 8 wards in 37 minutes. The enemy team set down more than double your team's wards, it's not a surprise at all you lost that one.

As a final note, you're too focused on solo carrying than helping your team. Your vision control is abysmal. Vision is an important part of the game, just as important as KDA can be especially in higher elos, so if you want to be a decent player you need to learn how to ward.

TheHypeGoku2 votes

You went 11/8/3 as Annie.

  1. 8 Deaths in 30 minutes is giving the other team a lot of gold.
  2. You bought a catalyst but didn't get the Rod of Ages. In terms of itemization, you HAVE to rush the Rod of Ages early game in order to start the passive stacks early on, otherwise don't even bother buying the item because then it's a waste later on.
  3. Like others said, upgrade the trinket. You went 8/8/5 as Corki.
  4. Again, 8 deaths in 30 minutes is too much, especially for an ADC
  5. Buy the orb trinket once you're out of lane phase so you don't get stuck in situations where you feel you have to face check with no vision. This allows you to gain temporary vision without being in immediate danger. You went 6/1/7 as SUPPORT Blitzcrank.
  6. You're support. Your job is not to pick up kills and do insane damage, it is to peel for adc and initiate strong fights. Upgrade that face of the mountain if you need to keep adc alive or get the token for a team speed up to help initiate fights or disengage fights.
  7. When you buy a sightstone, you don't need your yellow trinket anymore, buy the sweeper. You're wasting an 'item' slot by keeping it. You went 14/6/9 as Orianna.
  8. This was a good game for you and maybe there was nothing you could do.
  9. On the other hand, look at your itemization. You have a tear at 41 minutes in. Why is this not upgraded? This gives a LOT of AP.
  10. Also, maybe try an Athene's/Morello's for your first item instead. It allows for lower cooldown which is extremely important on Orianna. You went 13/6/4 as Ashe.
  11. Nice game, good KDR.
  12. Let's go back to itemization. Why BT after IE? Ashe's damage doesn't scale well without critical strike items. If you feel you need sustain, then maybe get a vamp scepter or just keep health pots on you. But you should stick to the basic build path of IE > Phantom Dancer or Static Shyv > Last whisper.
  13. No reason to waste gold on a QSS vs that team comp. Only really need it for things like Nasus wither, supresses, and Zed ult. If you want to get a defensive item early, get a GA or Banshee's after your static shyv/phantom dancer. You went 14/9/12 as Kassadin
  14. Nice game in terms of kills, bad game in terms of deaths.
  15. I understand the reasoning behind the thornmail but you should also realize that thornmail does not work for these following conditions: You do not have a high health pool The enemy AD's have life steal / MR to counter it
  16. Try Randuin's/Frozen heart. They have no way to really counter an item that lowers their Attack Speed, which in turn lowers their damage potential. Also give a lot of health/armor, which is nice.

Hope that helped.

Incarceration1 votes

I went 6/1/7 with blitz because of the fact that the jinx and i rekt bot lane, and my dmg was enough to steal the kills. The reason we lost that game was because I had to afk and help my mom so ....

The 8 deaths with annie was because I was being cocky and I admit i should have been warding for the j4.

The corki was because the nidalee was like me with blitz but atleast when I supported the jinx had a lot of kills to support herself. I think I misplayed a lot.

The orianna game was bc the braum was being cocky and he said to invade when all of us didn't want to invade but he showed himself to the enemy and resulted giving first blood to the ezreal. I could't roam down bot bc the rek'sai was camping bot and ezreal proceeded to destroy us. His ult took half of my health. I almost made many mistakes like not landing my ult.

It was my first time ashe so I didn't know about that.

I didn't have enough gold for the frozen heart.

The thing about the vision part is that I believe it is not as useful as it can be when you have a decent team. I win many games warding very little. I win many games warding a lot as well. However, in ranked many people around my mmr don't take advantages. For example, when I was playing Zed a long time ago, it was a 4 vs 5 and we managed to ace the enemy team bc of my attempt and my team's as well. However, instead of pushing the towers, everybody went and just started doing buffs instead of pushing towers. I think that they were thinking that I would carry the game or something, but we eventually lost. Now on to the point. If I ward and we could do a play, I'm pretty sure that we would misplay it or we wouldn't even do anything about it. Option 2 is usually what happens. Yeah, you could prevent an ambush, but even when I ward and pinged that an akali was missing and it was even visible on the map, they usually don't do anything about it until it faces them.

I want you to tell me how to get out of bronze 4. I can get out of Bronze 5, but I have alot of difficultly in bronze 4. I occasionally win some games if we manage to use our brains, but that's it. So, you're telling me that I just have to put wards down and try my best to see the situation as fit? I will try that out but if I don't win the majority of the games I have, I don't know what to do. I will play a couple of ranked games and try those things. But what do i use to get out? What champs, what knowledge etc.?

S2C2Xd9KOy2 votes

Stop making excuses for yourself. When you're getting constructive criticism, listen. Don't make excuses. Accept what the person helping you is saying, ask questions if you need but don't say "Well, this happened" or "But I was gonna eventually do that" etc. Admit to your mistakes and fix them.

TheHypeGoku2 votes

Here's how you get out of your elo. Realize you're one player on a team of five. You are responsibly SOLELY for your own actions. At the same time, you have to understand you will not get higher in ranked unless you are actually better than the people you are playing against. I'm Plat 5 and I see no difference between when I was Silver and where I am now. That is because what ever elo you are, if it's Bronze or Challenger, your opponents will be the same skill level as you. At the end of the day, you have to be willing to make minor improvements. They might not seem big, but they make a huge impact. Using your gold correctly for maximizing item potential is important. If you're support, buy the support item that helps your adc/team the most. Like the token, gives you ability to engage/disengage. Locket gives you a chance to give your team a shield. Frozen heart reduces enemy attack speed. It's the little things that make the biggest difference. One ward can change a game. Every time you die, or make a mistake, you have to tell yourself "That just changed the momentum of the game, that might have lost the game, I won't do that again." Every play matters, every minute counts, you have to make the best decision in EVERY situation.

But also understand if you're not above the skill level, in terms of mechanics, as your opponents, then you have to rely on strong decision making. It takes time to improve, there is no magical answer. If there was, everyone would be Challenger.

S2C2Xd9KOy2 votes

To improve mmr, win games :D qq

Incarceration2 votes

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude I have a brain. I just wanna know how the fuck I am supposed to win? But i am winning

S2C2Xd9KOy1 votes

It was a joke. "I wanna know how to win, but I am winning". What?

Rueian1 votes

then keep winning. There isn't much to an automated rank system.

Randomonium1 votes

Yeah, you've lost 4 out of your last 5 but you're still sitting at a 55% win rate over your last 20 games so its not too bad.

Your KDA and cs per minute are pretty good but you're horrible at buying wards. I'm also guessing based on your post that you go on tilt easily. My advice is buy more wards and work on staying calm even when things go bad.

Oh, and in games where your KDA is 4 or higher your win percentage jumps to over 80% so I would focus tightening up your mechanics just a little more because it seems like one or two extra deaths per game is costing you a lot victories.

And watch your replays! You'll be surprised how many mistakes you catch yourself making that you didn't notice during the game.

Incarceration1 votes

I don't think my computer or internet might approve of that replaying stuffz. Both are really slow...

How is KDA measured? And what mechanics do you mean? Can you like spectate me and help me?

Randomonium1 votes

KDA is just your (kills+assists)/deaths. I usually shoot for a KDA of 4 in my games though around 2 is average.

SkinSpotlights Replay is the software I use to watch my games. It basically records any game I play in spectate mode. Its a fantastic program and I don't notice any drain on my system when I use it.

I'm always looking to help people. Right now I'm a little slammed because I'm trying out a bunch of people for our teams and trying to stream a bunch of games. I'm hoping in a few weeks things will calm down. You can check out my videos and let me know if you like my style. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2EZm50wNGmfJal7IHM_b8Q

Incarceration1 votes

Thx started using ur tips it is working but i am fighting against bronze 5 and not bronze 4 so ...

Incarceration1 votes

But I can't help them because if I leave the opponent without watching it properly, it can do something devastating. If it can't push the tower, then it can probably farm and try to catch up until it catches up with me entirely, and even if I kept the jungle there, I can't always guarantee a successful gank. Maybe, I need to buy wards more, but most of all I need a decent team.

TheEvilQueen1351 votes

thing is your jungle might be willing to gank MORE if you had a ward up. also a support can leave the adc for a couple of seconds to ward a nearby bush. plus that gives you an opportunity to gank bot lane(blitz grab). an adc is usually only good if the support is good and vice versa. jungle is best and most helpful when there are wards and map awareness. no one else pinging and you see shaco going top? ping no matter what role you are. it helps. ping for mias. WORK WITH YOUR TEAM. You are only as good as they are because the team is a unit.

Incarceration1 votes

The thing I have for buying wards is that I want to buy some other stuff like more dmg more tankiness. Also, I've always wondered what the point of vision was if my team and I don't even pay attention to the map. For example, in my mf game, I was dived by this garen and he survived with minimal health, and the shyvana went after him to secure the kill. However the garen put up a good chase and ekko went to help the garen, but the veigar on our team was in lane and all he did was ping mia. If he went to help shyvana the moment ekko was missing, it would have been a successful skirmish, but it was not and someone else had to join to clean it up. Veigar had vision and he could have easily saw that ekko was helping garen, but all he did was just farm and ping mia instead of paying attention to the map and the reason why ekko was mia

IcyPepper2 votes

The thing I have for buying wards is that I want to buy some other stuff like more dmg more tankiness. Also, I've always wondered what the point of vision was if my team and I don't even pay attention to the map.

Then you know what you need to work on.

Wards cost 75 gold. That is a fraction of what the cheapest items in the game are worth. You should at least by one ward every recall, and then upgrade your trinket as soon as you can for 250 gold. It's cheap, giving me "I want to buy damages and tankiness" is an excuse. Not to mention that you don't even use your trinket all that much, so you really do need to work on it. Telling me you're a decent player and giving me the old "I need damages" excuse is a bit contradictory. Learn how to pay attention to the map a little better, then start learning how to ping appropriately (not too much, not too little) to compensate for teammates' blindness.

Since you seem like you prefer AP carries, a ward costs 17% of what the cheapest AP item costs: item 1052. Let me tell you, vision is worth a lot more than 4 AP, just going off gold costs alone. It can be a game-changer. You need to buy vision. It doesn't delay your build, trust me I've tested this. It will prevent ambushes, help you set up surprise plays, and help set up and control objectives. It does a hell a lot more than the equivalent of 4 AP would do.

I'm not saying you should be spending all your gold on vision. This is part of the game where you have to manage your gold appropriately. Just spending gold on items is pointless, especially if you find that you often fall behind. You want to reduce your deaths as well as maximizing your gold, and wards help that.

If you're willing to at least try to improve on a part of the game that you're lacking (you can only improve your mechanics so much against opponents of a specific skill level, so you need every edge you can get to climb and have stronger opponents), take it slow at first. Start by using your trinket more often. Try to use it every time it's off cooldown. Start by dropping a ward at a jungle entrance in the beginning of the game, then dropping the second ward in your lane bush ASAP (timed right, junglers are just about to leave their jungle for ganks around 3-4 minutes, just in time to ward).

Try to get an average of 1 ward every two minutes. IN a 30 minute game, you need to put down at least 15 wards. If you find you can't do this after ten or so games, try to buy one ward (75 gold) every five minutes starting at your first "safe" recall (when you weren't killed and you just want to buy items).

If you find that you buy items but never have enough wards, it's not the end of the world. This happens often, don't worry about it. There's a few ways to compensate. If you were going back to buy items, but know you only have enough gold for specific items, just last-hit three more minions. That oughta do it. If you find that you're the kind of person to buy five health pots against a non-poke champion, consider improving your mechanics to compensate for only taking 3 pots and a ward (or maybe grab a flask, pots add up over time). Or shape up your items a bit. Sometimes you can grab item 1052 item 1004 item 1004 item 2044 instead of a item 1026. You sacrifice 20 AP temporarily for mana regen and a little safety in lane.

And on support, please buy a sightstone. I'm the last guy to say something like this, but it's a great tool for warding at an incredible level of gold efficiency.

Also, please respond to people's comments on the boards. You get notified because it's your thread, but if you don't respond nobody gets notifications and won't see your comments. Hit the reply button on the bottom left of a post to reply.

Incarceration1 votes

I don't really approve of ap champs. The mages have barely any mobility and the assassins like ekko and leblanc are really hard to itemize with because of their mana probs. (Maybe I am just too aggressive.) I like ad champs like Zed and Riven. i can itemize and even with the ad champs with mana, their mana probs aren't so serious. Where do I put the wards down? Like against aggressive teams or the type of jungler that camps or a specific champ like xin, who just charges from nowhere, etc.?

Incarceration1 votes

Went 15/4 zed 18 wards tho ... improvement don't u say...?

Incarceration1 votes

Wards and the shrooms op teemo mid 16/4/5 AWESOME 15 wards i think?

Incarceration1 votes

How do you get out of bronze 4? What do you notice about most of these players and how to take advantages of their common mistakes?

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