Well I am practicing vayne and played for 40 games this week and no signs of improvement, just consisntently losing lanes due to not understanding all of the different adc matchups, map awareness, descicion making, and positioning. Is there any way or technique where I can take at least less time in order to improve? Why am I so slow on this?
I have a similar problem with orianna. Every champion I've played mid I've picked up in just a couple of games. However, with Orianna it is taking much longer, but I am improving. While there is no short cut to getting better (it's all practice) watching youtube videos of different matchups and how to play vayne in general. Once you know what your doing "wrong" it will take no time for you to get good.
I mained Vayne for a while and went through the same issues you're talking about. Only recently actually have I gotten consistent with her and feel comfortable with her in lane. Here's what I've learned:
If you have a random Support on your team, don't trade early. I don't care what anyone else says, unless your Support shows promise in knowing how and when to poke/initiate, don't do it. Vayne will lose most trades early game. Exception: i have several great Support friends that play with me and we do very well together.
Learn to properly last hit. Learn to use your Q to get you 2 quick last hits in succession. Just prioritize CS early game. Don't worry about kills unless there's a good opportunity for it (i.e. let's say the enemy is overextending and you can get a couple free pokes, or your jungle comes and messes 'em up while you focus for the kill). On that topic, always get CS. You should be aiming to get 70 cs every 10 minutes (it's not easy). Your gear--and mainly your AS gear--is key to your kit, so the more cs you have, the more gold you have, the more you can buy the items that make Vayne the powerhouse that she is.
Learn the basic poke/initiate combo of: Attack>Q towards enemy (attack)>E (condemn) them away/into a wall>retreat (if poking). Your 3rd hit deals true dmg based on their max hp so this is a very effective, and quick, poke.
Learn to bait/notice the enemy support's cc, and how to Q out of it. i.e. Nami loves to throw her bubble around. Learn her patterns and try baiting her bubble so you can q out of it (or towards her/adc if there's a kill opportunity). When vs Blitz/thresh, know that their grab is a collision skill, meaning it'll work on the first target it hits. Knowing this, always keep minions in between you and them and you'll greatly increase your longevity in lane.
For Nami: a little circle appears where the bubble is going to land, before it lands. Look for that and Q away. For blitz/Thresh, there's a half second of their ability making the noise to activate it. Listen for it and notice the trajectory. For Braum, he jumps up nice and high before using his ult, for his Q, you'll have a half second to notice it's trajectory and dodge away, etc.
Know thy enemy. Trist can jump right onto your face, Lucian can dash in, Twitch can increase his range to ridiculous lengths, Cait will always outrange/poke you, Ashe will slow you (or stun you with her ult). Twitch goes invisible to so buy Pink wards. If you can successfully bait/avoid these moves, then you're in a great position for some counter-play.
Don't be a hero. Don't try to walk by an enemy support with Cc just to chase down the adc that needs 2-3 hits left when you, yourself, have 2-3 hits left. Their support will cc you and their adc will quickly come back for the easy kill.
Vayne excels on AS items very well. Her ult gives her the necessary AD that makes up for her lack of AD items (not saying don't get any AD items, just saying you don't need to go too crazy with them). I typically get BOTRK first, then berserkers boots, then Phantom dancer or Shiv, then IE, then Youmu, etc. One important thing to notice though is that you gotta react to the landscape of the game. Don't just stick to a build order because it's the build order you know. If their AP mid is getting super strong then maybe consider a Mercurial Scimitar since it gives you both AD and MDEF.
Know how to use her ult. Her 1 second invisibility is KEY to her ult. KEY. Don't just Q out of an attack and then quickly attack them again. Disorient them. Q out, walk in a direction for a bit (usually you want to attack from your furthest attack range possible), then attack again. Better than that, Q to go invisible, then position yourself so that you can E (condemn) them into a wall. When ganked by 2+ enemy champs and you know there's no running away, Q in all sorts of random directions to disorient all of them--allowing you the opportunity to pick one or two off and creating an opening to run away (or finish the kill, depending on how it's going). Unpredictability is key. If you're running in one direction, Q and run back in the opposite. Also, if you really need to run away: R, then Q, then flash away while still invisible. I've juked many an enemy this way because they sit there waiting for me to uncloak.
In team fights, YOU STAY AT THE BACK AND ATTACK WHOEVER IS CLOSEST. It is not the ADC's job to pick off the enemy adc/assassin. It's your front line's job (Ally Tank with CC, ally assassin, etc). Don't use your Q in team fights unless you're dodging/saving yourself from THEIR front line, or, once their front line is dead, you're finishing up the enemy tank or support. Same for E (though depending on the location, a well placed E on their adc/assasin can shut down their firepower (i.e. if you're all squished in the jungle, the frontline and back line kind of become one sometimes))
Learn how to use your E. It's KEY. I've accidentally pushed enemies away--and subsequently saved them--more times than I'd like to count. A well placed E will secure you a sure kill so many times. Don't just rely on her aa. Know the range it will push them back. Draw an imaginary straight line from you, to them, and then extend it that distance to determine if using E is a good idea or not.
Learn how to stutter step/orb walk. This is the act of moving after your attack animation has started so that the arrow still flies to the enemy, but you are also moving towards/away from the enemy in quick succession. This allows you to kite and chase enemies and provides you with a couple extra hits that make ALL THE DIFFERENCE in a duel. (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+stutter+step+lol)
I kind of said this before but DON'T BE PREDICTABLE. If you're running away, don't run the predictable path because they can line up their skill shots to get you(unless, you're doing this to bait their skill shot and dodge). If you always go into the brush, they'll expect you there and a good Cait will place her traps. Mix it up. Keep them guessing/paranoid.
Know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. You can't win every battle. Know when it's worth helping you allies when you are 3 shots away from dying, and when it's better for you to run back to your base and heal (and you'll probably also get them bitching at you for not helping, but who cares. It's better than giving the enemy a free kill sometimes)
Figure out your own style. I simply expressed to you the things that have helped me develop my own play style. It took me a while to know how to fight with Vayne's ultimate on. That alone got me a lot farther on.
BONUS #15. If you haven't turned quickcast/smartcast on everything, do it now. It'll take some learning to do but do it. Quickcast is the best way to play (i do it with all my champs).
SUPER BONUS #16: Watch Vayne highlight videos on youtube. This will teach you SO MUCH. Don't just watch highlights where she kills, watch full games by Doublelift, Hi im Gosu, Piglet, and other pros and well known Vayne players. See how they play in lane, mid game, late game, etc. See how they play when behind, ahead, etc.
Hope that helps. If you have any questions lemme know.
P.s. The numbers are all in proper order when creating this post, but after I publish it, #5 turns into #1...Don't know why.
That an amazing set of information you got right there, Ive seen some of gosu's flash jukes and they are amazing. A question doe, how would you suggest for me to understand and learn each champions movesets and when to know that I can get in or not? Is it something of experience or is there a technique to understand champion skillsets and cooldowns and such
It is difficult, one has to understand all of the enemy lanes and their support varieties, it just seems as it would take me years to understand this..
I'm gonna plug someone here. Go to Twitch and follow "Briye" for a while. She's diamond, gives lots of advice, maybe she'll have something for you.
Is Vayne the first ADC you've tried to play? If so, you are naturally gonna have a hard time. Vayne requires excellent mechanics and positioning to do well, and she will almost always automatically lose lane because of her low range and limited poke options. You CAN learn the role with her, but it will take time.
The most basic and important thing to do with her is farm. Don't miss cs if you can help it. She needs her items. Late game, she can out-duel pretty much any ADC as long as she isn't too behind (and sometimes even if she is). Rayysai gave you all the important information. In general, try not to die, keep up in farm, and keep practicing.
If Vayne is still giving you problems, you can always play another ADC to learn the role better, then go back to her when you feel more comfortable with the position and all of the different matchups. Also, the more ADC champions you play, the deeper you will understand the matchups against them later.
I used to play Caitlyn almost exclusively, but forced myself to get comfortable with all of the ADC champions. [Except Draven. He has too much micro-management.] It helped me improve and counterpick enemy ADCs or supports, knowing what movements to expect, what their cooldowns are, when I could safely poke, etc.
