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As a toplaner who always goes duo with a jungler!

Caharin·1/16/2015, 11:25:15 AM·4 votes·1,321 views

Hello everyone!

I'm Inanis Iridis, a toplane main on EUW!

I just came here to share my thoughts on junglers and toplaners, and also WHY. So, let's skip the extensive writing and just hop on it!

  • If I'm a toplaner, I never ask my jungler partner for ganks. Very rarely he ganks me.

  • As a jungler, he only ganks mid and bot. He only ganks me if I'm in deep and need to get the pressure off.

So, why am I sharing our DuoQ experience with you guys? And why would a poor Silver player know anything about the game? Simply put, toplane don't need ganks. Most of the time.

The reasoning behind this is that if the enemy jungler ganks me and I survive (90% of the time) the jungler just wasted cooldowns and time up here. Now that he's here my team can:

  • Contest a 4v3 drake in their favor.

  • Go 3v2 in botlane.

  • Go 2v1 in midlane.

  • Get tower mid.

  • Get tower bot.

  • Ward their jungle.

Usually I end up playing Rek'Sai, Udyr or Nasus top, and ganks won't bother me because all I do is farm all day. Maybe get a kill or two. If I play Riven, I find myself camped as hell, just to keep me from snowballing. And I love this. Because we stall the game, I get items, I still wreck face. So in the end, ganks toplane doesn't matter. I play it safe anyway.

And I believe players who go top should not expect ganks, because mid and bot can carry alot harder, at all times in the game. And this is my personal experience with about 300 DuoQ games with him.

TL;DR: The only point I want to make with this thread is that a jungler can do so many more things than gank toplane. DOn't be selfish if you're top, just let your jungler give your carries the potentiall TO CARRY! Discuss!

13 Comments

Leti the Yeti1/16/2015, 12:01:21 PM4 votes

I gank top for my own sake it so happens that there is easy money up there frequently and im broke and rather carry games myself than rely on cancer bot

I gank mid cuz mid laners seem to have a higher IQ than bot laners for some reason idk maybe its cuz they buy all these books they are also likely to carry

Bot lane can go fk itself cuz its got cancer, ebola and everything nasty its also heavily warded by the other team while your team dont have sweepers or pinks its dangerous as fk cu anytime bot lane needs those ganks...it cuz they fking suck and theyre losing ganking bot is like 1.5 v 3 in their favor

Dominnion1/16/2015, 4:42:18 PM2 votes

I find top lane the easiest to gank, personally. Mid laners are too close to tower, and bot laners are more likely to have good warding.

Drunk Rummate1/16/2015, 5:03:25 PM2 votes

an early gank top before dragon is a viable objective can often set a huge snowball rolling. top laners are typically very good duelists with big snowball potential (like Riven) so i almost always like to direct my first gank towards top if possible.

after that early stage you're correct though, going top is dangerous due to drake and the threat of losing both of your bot lane to a dive.

Gray Fanchon1/16/2015, 10:48:19 PM2 votes

Lotta people blaming teammates for being bad in this thread.

I think it really depends on the match; yeah, if bot lane is down 0-3 apiece and the enemy ADC has all six kills I might not bother, but that just means other lanes get the ganks instead. :D

Sometimes you want to get that Riven top fed, sometimes you wanna hook Yasuo up with a kill or two mid so he can snowball. If they use that well, they can win games. If they get camped, that's awhile before they can really contribute. Bot's a very advantageous lane to gank in a lot of cases, but half the fun of being a jungler is making it up as you go each match. :)

Grimspeake1/16/2015, 6:28:52 PM1 votes

cant counter gank when your bot lane is just dying over and over 2v2

FedAsFuk1/17/2015, 5:21:31 AM1 votes

As a former JG main my theory was generally, top can't take towers as quickly as bot or mid even, usually if its a snowball lane I will give 1 MAYBE 2 ganks top (2 usually if flash is blown to punish it) pre6 but besides that very few top lane match ups are WORTH ganking for.

Grimspeake1/16/2015, 6:03:31 PM1 votes

when i jungle i camp the shit outta mid from the 2:30min mark on Shaco

Grimspeake1/16/2015, 6:05:05 PM1 votes

bot lane never sweep, freeze, ward and are usually overextended plus feeding. welcome to bronze.

edit: also if getting your top a kill will give them lane dominance its usually worth giving an early gank, this isnt high elo so its not like the other team will try a 3:30drake if i go top. everything is situational, in your elo you prob need to play like that, in mine i do whatever i want as long as my ganks r better i win

Akeito1/16/2015, 6:25:09 PM1 votes

In a Jungler perspective, I never gank bot lane, not going through Tri bush and river at least. I always go bot ( through the bushes in the lane itself and wait ) when the lane was pushed all the way up to the enemy's tower if I'm a using a good dueling jungler, same case apply to mid and top.

Why ? Because the other jungler will most likely gank that lane, I'll be sticking nearby to counter gank and turn the fight around. People keep giving idiotic tips like if a lane is pushed, don't gank there. This is why Bronze and Silver jungler, or even gold can't do well, they just leave if a lane is pushed, they doesn't bother finding out the concept of countergank. In higher elo some people even refuse a jungler gank because they know that the lane will "Turn" because the other jungler will be there and they'll get wreck 2v2 or 3v3?