I believe that Irelia is an entirely skill based champion (meaning that she is good depending on the players skill with her), but one of my friend disagrees. It would be lovely if someone could give me a quick answer as to whether or not she's skill based.
And please. None of that "better nerf irelia" crap. I want some serious talk going on in here lol.
TehNACHO3 votesShe's more of an intelligence based champion than a skill one imo.
NorthernDruid2 votesShe does require some finesse, not necessarily mechanical, but rather intelligence like someone else said, this makes her easier to master in theory, than someone like Riven with lots of mechanical finesse to play to it's fullest ability.
Irelia requires more than just mechanics to outplay your opponent. You have to know when you can go in, how long you can stay there, when to use your E for a stun, when to make do with the slow to snag a kill. And so on.
Irelia is the type of character who requires you to make evaluations, and be correct in them. Unlike someone like Riven who has lots of mobility, hard reliable CC and a short CD multipurpose defensive ability (which also works as an initiator).
Irelia needs you to make the correct decisions and if you made the wrong one you get punished hard for it, while this is true for a lot of others, truly mobile champions or champions with shields or other powerful defensive capabilities always have a way of protecting themselves from wrong decisions, and teh difficulty in playing them doesn't as much lie in knowing whether or not you can get out on top from the engagement, but whether or not you can mange it mechanically.
tl;dr: She's not mechanically intensive, but since her skillcap is lower she's got fewer situations she can dive into and do well in with pure skill. Therefore your decision to go in or not matters more.
Direwolfiez1 votesEhhh...isn't she called a ball of stats for a reason? I mean, sure, any champ can be outplayed or wombo-combo'd, but Irelia was nerfed for a reason before Morello went ape-shit and smashed her into the ground.
Roaranor1 votesI don't know a whole lot about her, but from the games I've played she seems really black and white. That is, either you know the tricks and mechanics (w-q to a minion near the enemy as a gap closer so that you get the q reset and phage passive) or you don't.
It doesn't seem like something you'd spend a lot of time "practicing" like Riven or Zed.
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I don't know a whole lot about her, but from the games I've played she seems really black and white. That is, either you know the tricks and mechanics (w-q to a minion near the enemy as a gap closer so that you get the q reset and phage passive) or you don't.
It doesn't seem like something you'd spend a lot of time "practicing" like Riven or Zed.
take some time and give her a shot. she's a lot harder than people give her credit for, especially if you're going to try big plays in top
Roaranor1 votesMy friend has mained her since early Season 3 and he walked me through the basics a while back, so it's not as though I have zero experience with her. Sorry, I should've said that I didn't have as much experience playing her. I'm not aware that she isn't Master Yi faceroll easy to play, but a lot of the skill that you're referring to isn't mechanical skill. It's knowledge based. And, the general connotation for a champ requiring "skill" is mechanical skills (ie Riven, Zed, Vayne). Knowledge based skill isn't unique to Irelia (it's needed for every champ), which is why she isn't considered a skill-based champ.
If you're saying "skill based" as in you have to be a good player in general to be good with Irelia, then you're right. But, she isn't a mechanically intensive champ.
Leti the Yeti1 voteswell...er really difficulty is about how much you can do with your kit how many choices you make, when you make em and all this other nonsense
Irelia, imo is a easy champ because she kinda lacks such choices so her gameplay is pretty straight forward
Q. is your simple gap closer, it does not require alot of brain power or skill at all, its point and click and when you want to use it is a no brainer you cant possibly go wrong other than diving at the wrong time... mistakes not limited to Irelia so we will exclude it The biggest play you can do with this is really just minion hoping/ champ hoping if you manage to alst hit with it
W. is a self-buff, nothing to say.. there is absolutely no reason why you should not use this during a fight or in lane for sustain and damage no thought or skill needed here
E. this is as interesting as Irelia's kit gets, since it has TWO(wow so amazing) effects, stun or slow depending on if ur % hp is higher or lower than theres point click as usual.. no thought or skill needed here either
R. hey look.. this skill takes skill-ish Its a skill shot and to get the best use of it, you should hit as many champs AND minions as you can this requires good position for maximum effect, not that mos tIrelias even care to utilize it to the fullest anyway
2/10 non skill champ
GivMeLampBrother1 voteswell...er really difficulty is about how much you can do with your kit how many choices you make, when you make em and all this other nonsense
Irelia, imo is a easy champ because she kinda lacks such choices so her gameplay is pretty straight forward
Q. is your simple gap closer, it does not require alot of brain power or skill at all, its point and click and when you want to use it is a no brainer you cant possibly go wrong other than diving at the wrong time... mistakes not limited to Irelia so we will exclude it The biggest play you can do with this is really just minion hoping/ champ hoping if you manage to alst hit with it
W. is a self-buff, nothing to say.. there is absolutely no reason why you should not use this during a fight or in lane for sustain and damage no thought or skill needed here
E. this is as interesting as Irelia's kit gets, since it has TWO(wow so amazing) effects, stun or slow depending on if ur % hp is higher or lower than theres point click as usual.. no thought or skill needed here either
R. hey look.. this skill takes skill-ish Its a skill shot and to get the best use of it, you should hit as many champs AND minions as you can this requires good position for maximum effect, not that mos tIrelias even care to utilize it to the fullest anyway
2/10 non skill champ
there are very few basic things that you can do with Irelia, but once you get those down, there's tons more that you can still learn. However, you're right about difficulty involving her kit, and her kit is a very simple one. This also gives her some flexibility in how she maxes her abilities. Maxing her q gives her good farming, maxing w makes her a better duelist, and maxing e (honestly never heard of an Irelia maxing e). IRelia can be a very simple champion if you decide to play her that way, or she can be on the difficulty level of someone like Lee Sin
Leti the Yeti1 votesI definitely dont see the Lee Sin potential in Irelia I honestly dont recommend maxing Q first for farming, increased mana cost is not what you want and it only refunds is static at all ranks you can farm minions with lvl1 Q just fine, due to 1.0 ad scalings lolwat I also max the hitten styyle :T as far as I'm concerned QWE is her combo for just about every fight, and very rarely will Irelia pull off anything with the Q reset, maybe a yasuo style escape
TheKingDodo1 votesWTF is a skill based champ?