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Why isn't Trinity Force a must have on Tryndamere?

wood419·4/17/2015, 7:28:34 PM·1 votes·3,632 views

My usual top lane tryndamere guide forgoes buying an early and for a and then a . This is for a few reasons. 1, I don't care for bork as an early purchase. 8% hp isn't worth it at any stage of the game as your main targets in tf's will be the enemy carries. Even in trynd is fighting a bruiser or tank, his crits will usually be hitting for closer to 20-30% hp, and the 8% from bork does less imo than the extra 80 ad from bloodthirster combined with its 10% extra life steal. Then on to the PD over shiv. This is no contest in my eyes. 100 bonus front loaded dmg that can crit is just not worth sacrificing 10% AS and 15% crit chance. So on an average game ill have PD, Bloodthirster, Bezerk boots, and IE 30 min in. This gives me 90% crit chance at full fury. Enter Tri Force. Against a squishy team, this makes you unstoppable. Replacing in my normal build, bumps me up to a satisfying 100% crit chance even, and giving so much more utility to trynd's kit. Sheen and Phage both synergies ridiculously with his kit, while the only stat he can't benefit from is the +200 mana which is not why one buys Triforce to begun with. Thoughts? I by no means am a great trynd player. What do more experienced players think?

14 Comments

Renaille4/17/2015, 7:34:24 PM7 votes

Because he doesn't weave spells between his autos much.

AwesomeChad4/17/2015, 9:40:10 PM3 votes

Triforce isn't very cost effective on tryndamere since the item has a passive proc with a 2 second cooldown and tryn's abilities have very long cooldowns. Buying it early or even mid game is an awful buy on him. If you're building it as a very last item when ur ridiculously fed, thats fine but theres better items out there.

Axests4/17/2015, 7:43:36 PM1 votes

My trynd build is botrk, into infinity edge, into shiv usually, then the last 2 items and boots are situational for me. This puts me down at 80% crit at full rage assuming i get no other crit (35% passive, 25% Shiv, 20% IE). I find this is more than enough crit to be consistent, and the burst given by shiv makes up for the lower crit and attack speed. As trynd i'll usually only need 3 to 4 autos to kill a squishy late game, and tanks aren't a problem with the rest of the build assuming no thornmail/heavy armor. While i might build triforce as a luxury item it's just too costly as a throw in to the build and doesn't have the stats i want to back it up. Typically my last 2 items will be randuins (especially with the new changes to it giving attack speed) and last whisper (though against squishier teams i may forgo it for a BT).

edit: almost forgot do you rune crit runes? because passive+PD+IE only equals 85% crit and the edition of tri only gets 95% crit. You won't reach 100% with the build.

mye PP4/17/2015, 8:24:33 PM1 votes

It's is a nice end-game item you could make from Zeal instead of completing Statikk. The rage passive is nice too.

However,

item 3078 10% chance to crit 20% attack speed 08% Movement speed

item 3087 20% chance to crit 40% attack speed 06% Movement speed

item 3046 35% chance to crit 50% attack speed 05% Movement speed

GaleWinUnleashed4/17/2015, 10:29:49 PM1 votes

Doesn't Triforce have the same sort of front-loaded damage that you use as a reason to not get Shiv? Sure Triforce hits harder, but your own reasoning seems a tad conflicted on that point.

Quite apart from that, Tryndamere isn't in the habit of alternating betweens spells and auto-attacks much (depends a bit on playstyle, I guess), so it's not likely you'd get the Triforce buff more than once or twice per champion. In the case of any champion where you could possibly get more than 2 procs off, doesn't that mean that they're tanky enough Last Whisper would've been a good idea against them?

StealWolverine4/18/2015, 3:30:44 AM1 votes

Trinity while passable is a waste as the dmg passive doesn't mesh with his kit, health is not something you really need, so isn't really useful and mana is entirely useless. There's almost always a better and cheaper option. Then there is bt vs botrk. First trynd dmg scales much better from as than ad. Second borks active is very useful in securing kills, or in safely split pushing. I do not believe that either should be rushed. The cutlass active though is cheap and worth getting fairly early. Next is pd vs shiv. With the recent pd buffs I think it is much more viable, but I still generally prefer shiv. It is 300g cheaper, and it build path also includes avarice blade, which if you end up sitting on it for a bit this cost difference effectively grows. I also think you are under valuing the worth of 200 magic dmg pole early mid game. If don't stand in one place it doesn't take long to charge. Fishing for a crit with static ready then spinning out does a good chunk of dmg. Late game or if crazy ahead pd is obviously better though.

Hasztalan24/18/2015, 12:05:43 PM1 votes

Cuz it is a trash item on him. Trynda is a melee adc who scales off from raw AD,crit and AS much better than sheen proccsing.

item 3006 item 3072 item 3046 item 3031 item 3035 is what you want 99% in the situations.

Garens Harem4/18/2015, 12:07:39 PM1 votes

item 3035 is needed so much

lB2kGRlc8y4/18/2015, 12:14:39 PM1 votes

I can see why you'd think its good, but the sheen aspect of it is essentially worthless, The changes they're making to black cleaver look like they'll be amazing for him though.

Photos of Ghosts4/17/2015, 7:35:16 PM1 votes

Actually 8% of their HP is more than 80 ad as soon as your target has more than 700 HP. If you crit, 1400. If you crit with an IE, 1850.