Questions about jungling

61413860_DEL·8/18/2015, 3:26:06 PM·1 votes·866 views

I'm new at jungling (well not completely new, but fairly) and I had some questions. I play junglers like hecarim, evelynn, Malphite, and amumu.

What should my jungle path be? I usually go gromp, blue, wolves and then back. And then I do the other side of the map.

When should I gank, level wise? I usually don't gank much bc I can't clear very fast.

How much farm should have by a certain point in the game?

When should I group up with my team to fight?

Thank you :) all answers appreciated :D

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61413860_DEL8/18/2015, 3:41:26 PM1 votes

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DartFeld8/18/2015, 4:11:54 PM1 votes

Hecarim can have an impactful (but difficult) gank at level 3 in the right circumstances. But it becomes much more devastating at level 6. With hecarim I will typicall get a hard smiteless leash at gromp. This allows you to get his W, and while at blue, you can use W+smite to get a decent heal. The key to his jungle routing is to always finish off the camp with a Q when your next camp is right beside it. This keeps the Q passive alive when you reach the next camp and saves a few seconds on your clear time. typically I go gromp>smite-blue>wolves>raptors>shop*>krugs>smite-red. From red you can head mid or bot, and if no oppurtunities are present, go back to wolves/gromp and look for oppurtunities top/mid, or go grab the baron scuttle.

*before going back to shop, check the map. If everyone is in their lanes, and you know for a fact their jungler isnt on the bottom side of he map, go get the scuttle by dragon. It's a bit of a gamble, but it gets you some extra shopping gold for an early pink ward. Just make sure you pay attention to the map and retreat if someone starts to roam your way because you'll be pretty low on health at this point.

TurquoiseYoshi8/18/2015, 6:41:39 PM1 votes

Amumu main here. I usually go with your jungle clear path, unless I want to gank earlier, which then I head from wolves to raptors, then red buff, then back (unless I'm feeling ballsy enough to go for the krugs). Another path is to take Scuttler after gromp->blue->wolves, then backing.

Normally for ganks, I wait until Level 6 for fully planned ganks (including a full setup of warding). I can gank earlier if either my team's lane is heavily pushed in, or their opposing laner is very low on health.

Your farm should be ahead of your jungling opponent's farm, unless you have been ganking (and succeeding) more than them. If either they have had more lane influence than you and are ahead of you in farm, you're doing something seriously wrong.

You group with your team to fight when there is a global objective to fight for, like a tower or dragon. Early on, you can go back to farming afterwards, but late game, you stick together to go to another objective (unless you're recalling).

PerfectSavage8/18/2015, 8:34:24 PM1 votes

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I'm new at jungling (well not completely new, but fairly) and I had some questions. I play junglers like hecarim, evelynn, Malphite, and amumu.

What should my jungle path be? I usually go gromp, blue, wolves and then back. And then I do the other side of the map.

When should I gank, level wise? I usually don't gank much bc I can't clear very fast.

How much farm should have by a certain point in the game?

When should I group up with my team to fight?

Thank you :) all answers appreciated :D

I don't know about Hec, Eve, or Malph, but I do know Amumu. If you smite Gromp, do you're blue and drink both of you're pots half way through blue, you should be close to full health (but not completely). You can still run over and do you're red and smite for the health bonus and then go back.

With Amumu just farm for level 6 ASAP. If one of you're lanes are losing and they start complaing about you, just ignore them. A farmed tanky Amumu who has ult will give the enemy team nightmares and its not you're job to win the lanes.

Amumu and Malphite are really good at starting fights that your team can win if you time their engages right. Always be looking to group up because unless you're really fed (and depends on the enemy team) you won't be able to do much by yourself. Grouping at around 20 minutes is about the average, but it depends on how your lanes are doing. Some top laners will push their lane non stop and when the enemy go to stop him, your team needs to capitalize on the open map and get another objective.

Also don't be scared of buying wards. Place them in the enemy jungle if you can or help out your laning team mates and hope they can see the enemy jungler coming.

blkKalameet8/19/2015, 1:30:20 AM1 votes

Start wherever side of the map ti get the stronger leash, bot side normally.

Start with a smite at whatever camp it is gromp/krug, take a pot, and then rush to the buff camp and take a pot. If you're at your blue go grab that scuttle crab, then if you're at very high health hit wolfs or raptors, then the other crab, then the second buff killing it with smite. If that last camp was red you should have health left for one more camp before you back.

You take the skuttles early for the extra cash/xp and to heal a bit before the next camps. This early they shouldn't be contested either so it's normally safe.

With amumu alwayse start at gromp, you need that blue buff for the mana regen to make a full clear. Im sure about they others, but Evelynns pasive can easily keep her mana up to do a krug start, and I think she benefits more from it than the others.

Dont worry about ganking with these champions too much before your first back. Except Evelynn, with her you might be able to get an early kill to start your snowball. But that's a bit more tricky to pull off.

And as for grouping. that depends on when laining phase ends, and what champ you are. With the others you can be a strong initiation and tank. With evelynn you're often better building moboots and roaming for picks on people out of position, don't go too far off tho. Her ult is still useful in a team fight.