Cho vs Gnar top

Makior72·7/1/2015, 2:19:42 AM·1 votes·861 views

So just had a bad game as cho vs a Gnar, wanted to pick you guys collective brains as to what I could have done differently. Situation was basically i got pocked out of lane and couldnt retaliate much because gnar wins extended trades with that % health damage. I could not farm fast enough to get the health back so i farmed under tower. Eventually got dived and gnar picked up a kill, jungle came up and gave him another one. Tried to farm under tower again, same result. One of my team mates (who i reported for being a toxic ass hat) said I should just stay and farm under turret.... except that wasnt working..... so what DO you do in this situation? I ended up teleporting bot picking up 2 kills and a dragon, and got back in the game a bit. But people just bitched that my CS was low cause i couldnt stay in lane long vs the gnar. what do?

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SrirachaLimes7/1/2015, 4:22:40 AM1 votes

I can't remember, but I think I've faced against only one or two Gnar's top. Regardless, here's what I suggest.

If you can reliably land Q, max it first. Otherwise, W is better. This is just general rule. I'd try to get as much cs in the early levels when he can't do a whole lot to you and learn to effectively dodge his boomerang. Walking perpendicular to Gnar will make it much easier to dodge his skillshot (true for any champ really).

If he tries jumping onto you, immediately Q on yourself, W him, and walk away, then continue farming (since you said you did poorly in extended trades). Don't try harassing him with Q unless you're doing well and are at sustainable levels with your farm. Save your abilities for disengage and return harass.

If you farm and hit most cs, you should be at sustainable levels of health. If not, try looking at runes and masteries and making sure you have more tankiness (e.g. armor seals and masteries in the 2nd page). Let him push only a little bit into the lane, and then start aa more and use abilities if necessary, since farming under tower makes things trickier.

This is also more in regards to item builds, but I noticed in the game against Gnar you built a RoA. I suggest building Trinity Force instead as your first item by getting Sheen on your first back. This is because RoA gives some extraneous stats. You'll have more mana than you need and your ultimate already gives you a whole bunch of bonus health, so getting resistances is usually better anyway. Trinity force really gives you good utility and lets you stick to targets faster. Followed by a Rylai's if you're doing well (your E will constantly proc it), they can't get away from you. From there I usually like to build tanky items (Randuins, Frozen Heart, Spirit Visage, etc.).

Sohleks7/1/2015, 5:55:58 AM1 votes

E max. Eat the wave with that. When he hits you back off into a brush so he cannot hit or back to your caster creeps. Mini Gnar cannot auto you to death in your minion wave of 6... Mini Gnar lacks enough pushing power to counter. You passive will power you through any harass you do take. Maybe you can do some collateral damage onto the Gnar.

Start cloth armor 5 pots for maximum safety.

E max is a strategy I use to win lanes versus other melee. When I E max I run attack speed marks and AP quints... Versus most ranged I would go standard mage and max W. However Gnar will build magic resist and laugh at your limited burst/and dps. E max grants you the ability to farm quickly.

Mini Gnar does damage overtime. He's too squishy to all in you in minions early. Mega Gnar is pure mostly burst damage. If Mega Gnar manages to engage on you and combo you you retaliate if possible while his cooldowns are down.

In any Cho'Gath lane focus on good CS; it's so important because of the gold and your passive is very powerful.

It's a matchup that favors Gnar by a good amount though... Your best build to lane versus this is double doran's ring + seeker's armgaurd....

3tyson7/1/2015, 5:16:54 PM1 votes

if he divs q him under tower