Bloodthirster vs IE - Math Included

KDP1337·4/5/2015, 10:44:12 AM·2 votes·1,879 views

item 3072 The Bloodthirster Cost: 3500 (1150) +80 Attack Damage

UNIQUE Passive: +20% Life Steal UNIQUE Passive: Your basic attacks can now overheal you. Excess life is stored as a shield that can block 50-350 damage, based on champion level.

This shield decays slowly if you haven't dealt or taken damage in the last 25 seconds.

VS

item 3031 Infinity Edge Cost: 3800 (645) +80 Attack Damage +20% Critical Strike Chance

UNIQUE Passive: Critical strikes deal 250% damage instead of 200%.


Trying to compare these two things is impossible without reducing it all down to quantifiable stats. The obvious solution is to just flame people who don't go the meta route of IE but are you sure your even flaming for a good reason? Let's find out!


item 3031 is easier so let's do that first. It gives a base 80 attack damage. Then it gives +20% crit chance. That means that 1/5 attacks on average should give double the AD which is 160 AD. But wait, there's more! The unique passive actually increases this to 200 AD. If you spread this bonus AD over 5 shots that means you get an average bonus of 40 AD. This brings the total average AD given by IE to 120 AD.

item 3072 is tougher to quantify. It gives the same base AD of 80 but the passives are confusing. The 20% life steal gives you back HP which means it would negate the damage done to you which means it essentially steals 20% AD which is another way of saying it gives +20% AD. So with that added on you get an AD total of 96. Still left is the even trickier life steal shield. It says it can give between 50 and 350 damage shield. The average of that is 200. That means it gives you an average of +200 HP. The problem is it only absorbs once since its HP. It's not like armor where it provides an easy to quantify reduction. The trick is to find out how long it would take IE to catch back up to BT once the shield is depleted. We find that out with an equation of (x * 96) + 200 = x * 120. This makes both IE and BT an even comparison since they are set to equal each other. The answer to the equation is 8-2/3. At the point in which both opponents make 8-2/3 attacks they have both did equal damage do each other. BT average shield (200) absorbs 1-2/3 attack of IE 120 AD which means it gives BT 1-2/3 extra AD which is worth 160 AD. Spread that over an even fight of 8-2/3 attacks and you get around 18.5 AD. Which gives BT a total of 114.5 AD.


Uh-oh.... have you forgotten that the prices are not the same? BT costs 300g less than IE.

IE is 3800g for 120 AD = 31.67g per AD. BT is 3500g for 114.5 AD = 30.57g per AD.


Oh my god! What does this mean?!

Here's the breakdown: IE gives slightly more AD at a slightly more price than BT. They are almost exactly the same worthiness.

Except one thing: BT provides sustain and IE does not. BT not only helps kill your opponent but also keeps you alive. IE only helps kill your opponent. IT doesn't keep you alive.


The clear winner is item 3072.

Remember that this is a purely 1v1 scenario. This is in no way saying you shouldn't ever build IE. This is ONLY saying if you and your opponent each have the opportunity to choose between one of these items...


VIDEO COMPARISON http://youtu.be/qVH3oEVk0mo

Decide for yourself.

19 Comments

DrCabes4/5/2015, 11:36:13 AM2 votes

You should also factor in effectiveness the second item bought.

Example: most adc's buy either item 3087 or item 3046. Now which item was the better choice?

LongHair Fox4/6/2015, 12:49:09 AM2 votes

You need to factor in that crit increases base ad.

disregardable4/5/2015, 11:00:06 AM2 votes

Mhm, until your opponent crits you 4 times in a row.

IcyPepper4/5/2015, 10:58:52 PM1 votes

Eh, I'd rather buy both.

masterdragon4814/5/2015, 11:14:56 PM1 votes

Even more than a 1v1 situation, with cinderhulk and thornmail become a standard on tank junglers, adc's are getting shut down by 3000 health tanks barreling down on them. Bloodthirster is MANY times more useful in these situations. IE first only works when you know you won't be in danger of being dove in team fights.

ZeroAnarchy4/6/2015, 12:26:42 AM1 votes

Well in this meta tanks are really strong, IE is the clear winner here, why? Crits and armor pen kill tanks not just regular AD.

Robin Song Robin4/6/2015, 2:24:29 AM1 votes

Yep, bloodthirster is better on an adc who wants to jungle and solo dragon, IE is better on an adc who knows how to position to avoid being focused and has a tankier teammate to soak up dragon's damage for them.

LilxPaprika4/5/2015, 12:33:43 PM1 votes

Nah, you have to consider that you can build 1 doran and vamp scepter with INfinity Edge for just a bit more gold. To yield far greater returns. Also lifesteal sucks vs tanks, since you do so little damage to them. Unless they have thornmail in which case don't even bother fighting them, and your peel is your sustain technically.

StealWolverine4/5/2015, 3:17:47 PM1 votes

You are entirely forgetting that ies crit chance and crit dmg multiplier increase the effectiveness of any other items, and your base stats.