Fizz main Having quite trouble laning

Sodokios·9/10/2015, 11:59:33 AM·1 votes·923 views

Hey Like the title said I main and . I've seen alot of Yasuo mid recently and I cannot lane against them like can't even cs. I want my cs to improve aswell as my pokes because I do not know how to trade with . When I play fizz all I do is wait for the late game and hope I do well. I would love if I could improve my laning phase with these 2 champions. I'm trying to climb but I just cannot. I do dodge skills but I can't cs or they will poke me to death. Last thiong I want to learn is how to fear my laner. Make him think twice about csing.

THANKS :D

4 Comments

The Bearded Bard9/10/2015, 12:02:46 PM1 votes

Good.

TotN Titan9/10/2015, 2:17:33 PM1 votes

I'm guessing he is a Maokai main and he likes that you suffer from laning as a Fizz. A lot of the community think that Fizz is an unhealthy champion and would much prefer to never see him again. You picked quite the champion to main, my friend.

That being said, I do not have a lot of knowledge about Fizz, his mechanics, or the kit that he is built with, but what I do know is that as a Fizz much of what you do in game is based off of his incredible roaming potential. Whenever I have problems as a top laner with a particular match up, I tend to retreat to my tower. I let the wave push to me. I don't go for every CS (especially against a strong bully) and I just make sure that I stay within EXP range of each dying minion that I miss. Practice CSing under your tower and making the most of the safety of your tower against difficult match ups. Fizz can scale really hard with enough EXP and once you've picked up enough gold to start getting your core items, push the lane back out and start to roam.

If you have teleport, look to make plays in the bottom lane. If you have ignite, look to move down the river and help mid lane with a surprise gank. Getting an assist or a kill can help keep you on even ground with the Yasuo, particularly if you can time your roam with a moment that he can't punish your gank with damage to your tower. Even pushing the enemy mid laner back to the Nexus to heal could help put your team ahead and give your mid laner a chance to roam up and help you kill your lane opponent. As Fizz, it's important to look at the entire map for advantages, as opposed to just winning your lane one-on-one.

Crumpled Garbage9/13/2015, 2:38:10 AM1 votes

First off I really don't play summoners rift anymore and no longer play my ranked account, So my advice might be "meh". But when i did, Fizz was always my main pick. I am going to assuming you don't care about picks bans and team composition, so I will just ignore that. The truth is fizz can almost always be poked out of lane and for the first part of the game you are often trading health and mana for cs this is normal (try and make smart trades). Now that doesn't mean you will lose early and be down cs you can still win lane and win early.

The real advice for trading in lane actually starts here
So no brainer here if you can get some good all in ganks you should win lane.

The key to trading in lane and csing without just getting crushed against a smart opponent is watching their skills and trying to trade when key skills are down, or also trying to trade by juking a key skill with playful trickster, if you can juke the skill and land on or better yet slightly behind them perfect, this can also be used to cs. example Tibbers not up but Annie still holding onto that stun just for you, bait it out playful trickster right behind her urchin strike through her (or to a minion away assuming she stunned you with the other spell since even if you juke the q stun she gets to keep the stun... for some bull**** reason).

Capitalize on any mistakes they might make know what they can do to kill you. example That LB just use w to clear a wave and trying to harass you with q, juke it and hit her she's used 2/5's of her all in as long as she's pushed out and you're not being ganked you should win the trade.

Also don't be afraid to use abilities to cs (do it as sparingly as possible since your mana pool is tiny)

Now for Yasuo, he is actually a pretty difficult opponent for fizz, when I was still playing summoners rift I only encountered a few. From my experience he is gonna shove and its gonna suck. It's much easier to fight him outside of a minion wave and you need to pop his shield before you all in (not true if you're really fed). Honestly I find catching him and killing him isnt a big deal but laning against him was very difficult and if you have trouble trading while laning just try and keep your cs up. More current fizz players may have some outplays for him but this is all i have for you.

this is all the advice i have some of it might be outdated but most of this actually works despite the champ you are playing as, just different abilities used in a similar fashion.