What Should I Do After a Successful Gank?

L3GIT MUFF1N·1/24/2015, 6:52:10 PM·1 votes·1,858 views

So I'm a jungle main, and I've been tying to work on improving my skills and I thought that the best way way to capitalize on a kill (in laning phase) was to push the wave to the tower in most cases and get some hits in on the tower. However, I've been playing with some of my friends lately and they always tell me to never do that as it makes the wave push up too far but I feel like if I don't, no experience/gold gets denied and we miss free hits on the tower. So my question is, what is the right way to capitalize on a successful gank as a jungler?

5 Comments

redniwediS1/24/2015, 6:54:15 PM3 votes

If it's a lane that has good roaming potential help them push down their tower.

If not and another lane is in a good ganking position go there.

If not go back to farming the jungle.

Truly Prideful1/24/2015, 6:56:51 PM2 votes

It depends on where your laner/s are after the successful gank. If it's just you and they're back in base you have a couple things to look at. If the lane is going to push toward your turret on it's own, leave it alone and it will be ready for the laner to farm. If it looks like your creeps are going to end up pushing it generally ends up being better to push it into the enemy turret so it resets for the lane and denies the farm. If the laners are still there, obviously take dragon if bot or push the turret if they're willing to.

ValyrianBlade1/24/2015, 9:31:17 PM2 votes

First, be aware of lane taxing. A jungler can tax lanes, which means take their cs. If you take the kill on the gank, just leave unless the laner pings for help pushing - you took kill gold so don't tax. If the laner got the kill, they're ahead due to that kill gold. So you can tax - anywhere from 4 to 6 minions is a good upper bound. If you don't get a kill on the gank but force a recall or make them use flash for example, you can tax 1-3 minions. The purpose of taxing is that ganking takes time, if you gank and always let the laner take the kill and never tax, you'll fall too far behind to succeed in ganks later.

With respect to pushing the lane, your friends are wrong in saying to never do this. It's completely situational whether to push the lane or not. If the lane is pushing against the enemy, it's often good to keep it that way because they'll have to extend to get cs and since the kill gives your laner a lead your laner can deny them cs for several waves and really build their lead (and also you can gank again). If the lane is already pushing against your ally, then definitely help clear the wave and push to turret to deny farm, get turret damage, and reset the wave. With good mechanics you can also push in a way that manipulates the wave to push against the enemy (towards your turret) after you shove to tower, which is ideal as you get tower damage and your laner can deny cs for a few waves as explained earlier.

Also, if you can take the tower after a gank, I think that's often the best decision (unless you can instead take Dragon, gank bottom then take Dragon is best case scenario).

One last note, in general don't push a Lane or tax a Lane where someone is stacking; I.e. Don't deny your nasus/veigar q stacks because it's how you normally jungle. There are exceptions to all rules.

Xela Syab1/24/2015, 7:09:53 PM1 votes

Ok there's 2 issues with this.

  1. You shouldn't take laner cs and exp this can actually set them back. This is sometimes what cases rubberbanding of successfully ganked lanes. Say the sup abandons the adc and he's alone and you gank successfully, now say he stays in lane gets his farm and then outlevels your adc. Then when a teamfight breaks out you guys lose because their adc (who's been ganked alot) plays safely and has more damage and exp suddenly win's mops up the fight and gets ahead. Now this is a rare case of a good adc who comes back.

  2. What objectives should you take? Say you gank bot lane, drag is up, and the wave is pushed? Get dragon because the global buff is more important. You gank top and your mid gets ganked and the top wave isn't pushed, do you push top and get tower or go mid and save tower? If you move fast it's better to save objectives than win objectives, if you push hard and deal good damage then its better to get objectives than save objectives.

Frankly the best case for a jungler is if no one pushes their lanes, forcing the enemy closer and letting you gank however this is risky top and mid lane since they can get their tower damaged. Essentially watch the lane matchups, look at who has weaker matchups, who has the potential to carry the game, and who needs help asap. If your botlane is getting wrecked it may not be a good idea to go there unless you can destroy their carry.

BD Wilton1/25/2015, 12:19:40 AM1 votes

Go get more Devourer stacks