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[Rundown Question] Toxicity, Muting, and Communication

Nova Skye·3/5/2015, 4:06:32 PM·2 votes·526 views

So I'm slightly guilty of claiming "and muting you" and then not actually doing it for fear of missing vital information (but failing to respond to anything further so it looks like I did - it usually stops the bickering and when it doesn't it gets really comical when it's one sided). I'm looking for clarification on a few things when it comes to toxic players, and I'm going to use one of my most recent games as an example.

I took Sejuani Jungle as second pick in a ranked game. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1750222291/207626066?tab=overview

Everyone seemed really nice in champ select (it was mostly quiet, though, so hard to tell). I made a comment after the last champ was locked in that I "gank to a fault and want an early dragon so always be ready". I basically got several "OK" 's and "Good! Need an active jungler for once". After a few seconds we went into loading screen.

As soon as we spawned on base, the Jax started flaming, threatening me that I better not "Come into lane, take the kills and CS" and "Idiot jungle feeders". I took into consideration that he may have had several bad games in a row with Junglers (which I fully understand), but his language was extremely colorful and toxic, to the point where a few of the others were saying "Woah, dude, chill. Haven't started yet". As I clicked my path into the Jungle, I simply responded with "I won't, don't worry, but chill out or I will be forced to mute you."

It got even more colorful. I had Jax muted before the first minion wave even spawned. Then I gave my mid-laner Velcoz First Blood before the 4 minute mark. From the comments in the chat, I was being defended by the rest of team. I don't know what Jax was saying, but it warranted several "Shut up Jax, she did what she was supposed to".

I generally left top lane alone because Jax was handling himself well. I super-supported my mid laner because He was incredibly nice, positive, supportive, and attentive to everything going on. I started to help out bottom lane, but they fed their enemy duo too fast - to the point where any conceivable ganks would fail. So I ended up having to leave them alone but constantly watching for opportunities. (Bot laners started going at eachother's throats as well, but by that point concentration didn't allow me time to respond to most of what was being said).

By mid game, our Jax started counter jungling me. He would take all of my buffs before I could get to them, even when I pinged I was on my way and to retreat from it. He did it consistently to the point where I had to ask my team mates to relay a message for him to leave it alone (I don't remember ever seeing that message, either, actually).

Then I started to worry that muting the Jax was causing him to not see my pings that I was coming. I couldn't tell if he was being a jerk or didn't know.

TL:DR; Does muting a toxic team mate cause them to miss pings as well? How do you communicate to team mates you've had to mute? Is someone ignoring ping just being a jerk or is there another way to deal with them?

And how the heck do you deal with a counter-jungling team mate? Bronze 5 is terrible for people just walking through jungle and taking every camp even when you've said you need the buffs or when you're obviously 2 levels behind.

5 Comments

FedAsFuk3/6/2015, 12:30:08 AM2 votes

You escalated it is the problem. If you are going to mute someone because you don't want to hear them do so. Do NOT make it a scene, meaning don't do the "muted" shit because it does nothing but actually cause more tension. You actually pushed someone clearly on tilt already further on tilt. By extension you caused every bit of this yourself. If it is bothering you and he no amount of calm messages back saying "I won't" or whatever won't fix the situation telling him "I'm muting you" does nothing but escalate the situation and now the entire team feels obligated to either 1) Defend you or 2) Take Jax's side, either way it causes a rift in the team. So to summarize this loss was your fault.

Also, why in your reasoning for ganking mid is it because he is nice? Him being nice and supportive has nothing to do with the game. Pile the previous comments to Jax and you wonder why he is pissed? You basically poked a bear with a stick then gave all the meat (ganks, help, everything a JG should do) to the mid and bot. So no you were actually just as if not MORE in the wrong than Jax. You were the one "not angry" and letting your FEELINGS of a player dictate what happened in game. You expect that from the person on tilt, it is the definition of tilt afterall.

FHMarshy3/5/2015, 5:20:27 PM1 votes

No, you are just in elo hell

Faith Breaker3/5/2015, 5:33:43 PM1 votes

Yes, all allies will always see and (unless they turn the option off) hear your pings as well. A muted player can still annoy you with pings. It's spam. And wether they see your pings or not counter jungling an ally you're not able to flame bc they muted you is indefensible. I will say if I'm top lane and our jungler hasn't taken our blue, and I see them making ganks bot, mid, looking for dragon, ect, and I ask for blue. Well. After a while if our blue is still there I'm gonna take it. Because he's not using it, our mid isn't using it, and I'm eliminating the chance the enemy can use it.