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Questions on how to practice CSing

GummyBearWookiee·2/18/2015, 8:38:25 PM·1 votes·4,206 views

Ok, I've read all the guides and I know all about starting up a custom game with no bots and just practicing last hitting with the goal being that magic 100 CS mark at 10 minutes. However, I have some questions about that...let me explain. First a quick background....I always that I was ok at CSing...not good...just ok for my level of bronze/silver. I'd get 55 CS maybe at 10 mins. Then I got into a game with a known stream the other day for fun...and got punished...HARD. I had about 28 CS at 10 mins..yea...that bad. Then I noticed in a bot game with a friend who is just learning that I only had about 45 CS at 10 mins...terrible...so I decided I definitely need to practice.

I jumped on Jinx at lunch...I figured CSing with an ADC would be easiest. I played two games and had a CS of 76 and 77. I noticed I was getting a lot of mistakes via auto attacking...so I turned auto attack off. I then had games of 74, 80, 84 and 84...with the last one I got that after a terrible start of only 10-12 CS after the third wave.

So...do most of you play with auto attack turned off? I never have before...and I'm curious if this is potentially causing me some issues...or if my increase in score was because I was just getting a little more familiar. Is there a danger to having auto attack turned on or off?

Another question is what is acceptable. I know that 100 CS is the "dream" so to speak (I'm going mid if that matters when I practice). Is 90 acceptable..95? When should I give a nod of the head and so ok...now up the difficulty...add a bot to the game...etc. I did all this btw as basic as possible...standing perfectly still and doing nothing but attacking only on the last hit...not hitting to lower the health etc...only attacking to last hit. Also how do people practice the whole attack/move thing...I assume it's currently just bound to "a"...though I noticed there appears to be no way to hotkey it?

TLDR: How do you practice last hitting specifically? Do you do it with auto-attack on or off? What is acceptable outside that 100 CS for practicing and is there a difference for that number based on role ADC/APC/Top?

6 Comments

Serevas2/18/2015, 9:00:44 PM1 votes

I don't play with it turned off I utilize the "S" key (which is the default set up) which cancels your next auto attack. You can also use the attack move command, which is "A" I if memory serves correctly.

I don't like free csing like in custom games without bots, bot games will work, or go into team builder, I feel it's better practice to have a real person trying to harass you while you CS.

No better way to learn than to dive in head first in my opinion, it becomes sink or swim in those cases. The reason a lot of people will tell you to cs in custom games, is so that you get use to the auto attack animation of that specific champion, some his fast, some wind up slow, but start quickly afterwards, some have longer gaps. It helps you learn where about the hp bar should be when you hit in order to make sure you get the last hit, but it doesn't do anything for csing while being harassed, or under pressure at tower those end up being entirely different animals and your numbers will often suffer when trying to translate it to a real game.

Linna Excel2/18/2015, 9:04:52 PM1 votes

I have AA on and my wheel is attack move, but I also hit S a lot.

Some thoughts:

I suck at last hitting as well, 75 in practice is about my average
Don't use skills to last hit when you don't have to.
Don't push the wave and AA constantly.
Timing is a b---- to get right
Consistency is even more of a b---- (I can get 6 creeps in one wave, 2 the next if things go wrong)
Some champs are easier to last hit with
Expect to lose CS in game conditions as you have to worry about trading, backing, dying, etc. Unless your opponent is content to farm, even the people in diamond and challengers will only get 65-75 in 10 if they are trading a lot.

GummyBearWookiee2/18/2015, 9:55:12 PM1 votes

Any more tips?

hh the thinker2/18/2015, 10:10:00 PM1 votes

for bester practice at csing, pick annie (slowest attack speed) or ori (ori has lowest damage with AA with no ap) with no runes and masters and don't buy items. the harder the practice, the better the practice. if you can get 90 cs mid lane with both of these champs at 10 minutes without any bonuses, you should find csing a lot easier when you are playing adc with runes and masteries and buying items.

The Chin2/18/2015, 10:14:52 PM1 votes

When I practice I only go for 5 minutes (usually vs AI) 10 minutes is way too much of a commitment for me.

The max you can get in 5 minutes is 38 CS

I do these pretty often, if I'm waiting for a friend to finish a game or want to warm up for ranked. The best way to improve is just through repetition, so do one of these whenever you can.

Greenette2/19/2015, 2:43:10 AM1 votes

Let the minions do most of the work. Keep an eye on which and how many of your minions are attacking x creep and kill that one first since you'll lose it trying to dps down one that is being focused less.

Prep your cs with abilities and use auto attacks and spells at the same time to get multiple minions since sometimes 2 will die at once or will die while you're locked in an animation.

Click on the minions you want to kill to track their hp. Your ad is the total auto attack damage you'll do outside of crits without factoring in armor.

At tower, while it is hitting melee's (3 hits) attack the caster's once each so that you'll be able to get the last hit (this is for when you have low ad).