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Wanting to start jungle

Hanana··1 votes·1,280 views

Hello,

I have been playing League for slightly over a year now, and I still haven't really been able to get into jungling - I've mostly played support, with mid lane and adc on the side. The problem is that I'm (probably expected by now) an absolutely awful jungler - my ganks are awful, I forget all about objectives and I completely freeze up the moment the enemy jungler has counterjungled me. I've watched a lot of videos of foxdrop and the like, but I know that only true experience will help me develop my jungling.

I don't like many of the junglers though. So far the only champion I like is Elise, and (correct me if I'm wrong) she doesn't seem to be a very effective pick at the moment, especially not for someone who is already very inexperienced at jungling. My question is: which junglers are generally effective at the moment and relatively easy to pick up? I'm mostly looking for junglers that play a little like an assassin (because it's a playstyle I'm kiiiind of comfortable with), or junglers with strong teamfight / AoE capabilities. I don't see myself playing any of the bruisers.

Thank you :)

Edit: I've been interested in Diana, is she an ok jungler, or more of a laner?

22 Comments

Only TurboInt2 votes

The Jungler I started on was maokai basically right now tanks are really strong and for the most part they have always been mid tier picks at least in solo queue so pick a tank with point and click CC and you should be able to succeed in that role. GL learning jungle and if you want feel free to add me See ya on the rift.

Hanana1 votes

Thank you! Maokai seems fun because he's kind of mage-y , and I quite like that. I hadn't considered his point and click cc, but that sure makes a lot of sense for ganking and skirmishes.

Only TurboInt1 votes

And to answer your edit question Diana is actually decent in the jungle. Has good gank pressure post 6 but extremely dependent on 1st blue. So Id probably look at Amumu if you were going this route unless you enjoy Diana in which case by all means play what you enjoy.

DrathTurtle3142 votes

For "strong teamfight / AoE capabilities" I recommend zac.

For assassins, I recommend Rengar.

Both of these champs have a fair bit of AoE for clearing camps and enough sustain to complete a full clear and possibly a gank with both buffs. Also, both have a gap closer that makes ganking easier. A note about rengar, while he can be built as an assassin, you can also use a more durable build and still be effective. This is the main reason I prefer him to kha'zix, but if you are more comfortable with the bug, he can also be played, though not as effectively for low sustain.

Also, if you like elise, you might try nidalee, they share the transforming mechanic on their ults and nidalee is more popular/effective right now. I'm trying to learn her currently, and I have to say, I hate her. I can't seem to play effectively against her or as her, but I also have trouble with the transformation. If you have that down from experience with elise, she might be a little easier for you to transition to.

A lot of things are viable right now, and if some of the other jungle enchantments get the same treatment as cinderhulk, we could see even more come in.

These are just my oppinions based on my experiences. I play tanks, so I recommend zac, amumu, cho'gath, sion, etc. but the assassins I've had some success with have been eve, rengar, nocturne, and nidalee.

Hanana1 votes

Cool, I actually completely forgot about Zac. Will definitely look into him and amumu has always been interesting, too.

Rengar definitely sounds nice as well, the sustain is something I find very important right now. I seem to fall behind in levels too (probably because my brain is a mess when jungling), so that might help out.

Nidalee I honestly don't like much as a champion, though I've never used her so I could give her a shot.

Thanks!

FlamingFrostbite2 votes

Jungle is a messy role to play and even messier to do wrong. Unlike laning there is no shield from damage besides Health Pots, so managing time spent healing in base, clearing camps, ganking, counter-ganking, and ward coverage is key.

I wouldn't be able to tell you who to play, I feel every jungler has his/her own preference and it can be completely different from how you like to lane.

Hanana1 votes

That's exactly what I find difficult - I feel jungle requires so much flexibility. Maybe that's why I like support so much, because I get to be very in control of the bottom lane, and when in doubt I know I'll never go wrong with peeling for my adc. Thanks for your reply :) I probably will discover my preferences on the way, but the replies here are a big help!

IcyPepper2 votes

Here's a few tips for jungling:

Try to fit the team comp. Nothing is worse than choosing a Fiddlesticks when top is Fiora, and not having a proper frontline. Bruisers are good when there's a top tank, tanks are good if there's a bruiser top, squishies are fine if those roles are already filled.

Buy wards. You're not as gold reliant as your allies, except the support (you're more so). Unless you get fed, don't expect to 1v1 everybody. Rely on your cc and teammates, and secure those objectives. Vision helps.

DrathTurtle3141 votes

Don't be afraid to buy sightstone. especially on tanks that take cinderhulk.

IcyPepper1 votes

I've been meaning to do that sometime, could really aid in my warding.

I managed to outward my team yesterday as Vi... with sweeper lens.

Modern Science1 votes

J4, Vi, Sej, Fid, Amumu, (Wukong?). I've found these to cover most all situations/post-ban picks. Successful tanky or damage if your team needs it. I've found building tanky does more damage than building damage on these guys usually. They all have great teamfight power and are fine alone. They aren't hard to learn and are pretty variable.

junglerboy161 votes

Diana is an excellent jungler right now, she is just a little stronger as a laner. If you enjoy playing her, absolutely take her into the jungle.

Winrams1 votes

Jungle is actually pretty easy, just have to know what camps to hit from level 1-4......after that it all depends on what buff you want from the smaller camps when you smite them. If my team is generally winning there lane early game I try to hit level 6 before ganking. If they are losing or getting their lane pushed in, I will attempt a gank before six.

I always start at gromp and smite it to get the extra aoe damage. Then I head to wolves, Red, golems and depending on what jungler you're using I also gets the birds.

As for what junglers to use, right now the tank meta is working best. So use junglers, such as, Vi, Jarvan, Volibear, Nautilus, Warwick, Udyr, Sejuani (if she is not band) Zac and Xin. I've read every thread that has been posted in your post and they are missing a key jungler who has a ton of sustain CC(especially if you get iceborn gauntletsitem 3025 , increased movement speed and does decent damage. Even when you build him straight tank. That jungler is SKARNERSkarner Plus if you're really good at picking off a champf with your ult and your team is around for a team fight they are usually dead before the ult ends. Also playing a tanky meta champ allows you to tower dive and be a bully to secure a kill and live.

As for squishy junglers, which i do not enjoy playing in low elo, i would only recommend when you have a bruiser top and a tanky support. The unfortunate thing with squishy junglers you can not really tower dive and hope to live if you end up killing the enemy!

Hopefully this was useful to you!

Take Care,

Winrams Skarner

DrathTurtle3141 votes

Skarner has sustain?

I know he had sustain a while back, but riot changed his e so that it no longer health taps marked enemies, and I don't even remember if it still marks them for anything any more...

please elaborate on skarner's sustain. I agree that he is good, but I just have to ask about that one little detail of your statement. also, that passive stun is really strong.

Winrams1 votes

His E, passive stun and increased movement speed (W) make it is impossible to run away from Skarner. Unless you're Udyr

DrathTurtle3142 votes

That is cc and chase potential, but you mentioned sustain. what does he have to keep his health/mana up in the jungle(besides blue buff because that isn't built into his kit)?

Winrams1 votes

Skarner is naturally tanky, i go 9-21-0 into the masteries tree. I can clear all jungle camps besides blue before I go back to buy. His W gives a nice little shield to keep his health in check. Early game until about lvl 8-9 i use health pots. As for mana, I only use the blue buff first time and give it to mid lane after that. I never usually have issues with his mana, unless I stay out far too long, when I should have recalled and bought. Or constantly having to use my W in that lengthy time being out. Also to keep his health in check I buy item 3065 and item 3083 to go with the his health regen points in the mastery tree.

My build usually consists of these 8 items. What order I buy them in depends on how ad or ap heavy they are. As well as if an ad or ap is getting fed.

item 3269 item 3709 item 3065 item 3143 item 3083 item 3102 item 3025 item 3068

I know Sunfire is in that list of items and the passive on that item is no good because of item 3709 But if there team is extremely AD heavy the health is what I am looking for with the armor because of the benefit from item 3709

junglerboy161 votes

His shield is his sustain by blocking incoming damage so you can stay in the jungle longer. It is the same type of sustain as J4.

They significantly buffed the shield's strength when they removed the health tap on fracture to compensate for the sustain nerf there by consolidating it into one ability.

Changsty1 votes

Warwick is probably one of the easiest champions to learn to jungle with. Immense sustain, no skillshots. I would say start with him until you're more familiar with the other aspects of the jungle. Focus on farming/vision/objectives and only gank if:

  1. Your ult is coming off cd soon
  2. Enemy laners are dancing under your turret

If they counterjungle you just clear the camp and ward up, since they're likely to do it again. Other than that try to set easy goals for every game until you're able to do everything at the same time. To start with try to be able to predict the enemy jungler's movement and obtaining dragon control. Branching out to other champions then is just a matter of slightly different mechanical skill and being able to gank effectively more than once every 2 minutes.

VesperNadal1 votes

I learned how to jungle on Udyr. The guy has no skill shots and is extremely versatile in his builds. He's also a power jungler and his clear times are among the best in the game. On Udyr you can focus more on objectives and less on minute nuances of his kit since its so straight forward. Warwick is without a doubt the easiest jungler to learn on. Heck, you don't even need health potions so you can actually start with a machete and a green ward. His lifesteal is strong enough to keep him fairly health all game. Only problem is that before level 6 his ganks blow hard so its almost like your only purpose early game is to farm until you hit 6. But his E ability lets you know when the enemy jungler is on their way so you can leave before getting ganked. Fiddlesticks is the last one I want to point out. He is one of the safest junglers save for his one weakness: mana dependency. If they take your blue buff early on they seriously hamstring you for the late game. But if you get the first one or two blue buffs you will be set for game. His ult makes him a powerful assassin style champion and you can also solo dragon at level 2.

BigIdea1 votes

i've been a jungle main for a few seasons now. i can spectate a game or two if you want. it'll be much easier for me to give pointers if i can see your play. let me know.

Bemapon1 votes

Diana is a fine jungler. I personally prefer her laning, but jungling her can be just as, if not more, powerful.

These suggestions are all opinion based.

For assassins Shaco is my main. He does not always fit into the team comp, dont pick him if you need cc. The only problem is that most of his farm should come from ganks, not from farming. You say your ganks are aweful, but if you take the time to work on that Shaco might be someone to pick up.

Strong teamfight junglers, I play quite a bit of Zac and Sion, depending on the Ad/Ap balance on my team or which fits better. Sion can be a little tricky to gank with until he has his ult. If Zac lands his E and your laner followes up, you are almost guaranteed to get a kill or some summoners down.

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