Yep this is every player on all my teams. Even if they are 10k gold over full build they refuse to upgrade trinket. Its actually some sort of mental block. I can't afford it or its not worth it or its not my job.
I don't understand. wards make money. Why is this hard to comprehend?
People always get mad at me for not getting the Sweeper when I jungle (and I jungle a lot) and then I have to explain that it is pointless because A: The enemy team has no wards. Know how I can tell? They have no open slots, no sightstone (except the support) and their trinkets are always off cooldown. B: None of you (my team) are warding, so it is better for me to get a yellow trinket and a pink ward here or there than to waste switching to a sweeper when we need more wards anyway.
If the enemy team does start buying wards, I'll buy a sweeper and a sightstone and be on my way. Until then, either shut up and ward more or mind your own business and don't question my choice in vision.
I was adc one game and I literally bought like 10 wards the whole game... guess how many the support bought... none. No sightstone no nothin
After the third consecutive 3-4 man ambush on bot lane.....
Leo babe, you planning on buying a sightstone anytime soon?
uhhhhh...? I'm buying items to rek the other team with....
/rolls eyes uh huh.........
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how is that working out so far?
jinx stop trying to tell others how to play, if you want vision then buy some wards, you're trinket isn't even upgraded jeez, I'm not spending gold on wards cuz I need items!
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look i'm just sayin 3 mins ago i was 6/1/4 and luc was 0/4/1, now he's 7/4/3 cuz we've been ambushed 3 times in a row because we have no vision (not a nary ward has been given this game save jinx's trinket) and you can't upgrade trinket until lvl 9...........
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LOL they have no vision, this is so easy! Their red is up, lets camp bush and wait for Udyr.
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can we please get some vision on the map now guys?
stfu if you want vision then buy some wards
I'm not wasting my gold on wards
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me either
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why are there 4 top?
this jinx....
Your turret has been destroyed
Your turret has been destroyed
Your inhibitor has been destroyed
/facepalm ok well i've tried asking nicely, I'm not leaving the base area until we have some vision
pings lets push top
ok
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Enemy team triple kill
Wtf jinx come out here and help (pings drag)
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(while gunning down the super minions at base) told you guys we need vision
stop trying to tell everyone how they should play, you can buy wards you know
I've already spent over 500g on wards, I could've had my IE by now but I guess I don't need damage......
(pings two lanes of super minions at base while watching the team run back out to each lane after revive)
we need to push
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omfg jinx would you do something!
da fuk?!? (while spamming everything she had on 4 superminions inches from the nexus turrets)
I think you should get a bonus 50 ip if you place 10 or more wards in a game. The only way to get dumb NA kids to ward is to give them cookies.
In urf I can place 3 wards with un-upgraded trinket... OP
I have been in games where we were getting out rotated repeatedly and falling behind. I told my team, OK guys, let's all upgrade our trinket, grab some pinks, and get some wards placed.
Suddenly it's comeback season.
Everyone should at least upgrade trinket and 1 pink, and if you are an assassin or support and not warding nonstop then you aren't doing your job and any successful plays you make were because of luck, not skill.
Yeah, most of my games have me throwing down between 30-50 wards while the rest of my team barely breaks 10.
Except for games with friends where we get lax due to skype communication.
just a friendly reminder that 
is cost efficient to an overpowered level. just do the math, it costs 800 gold, 400 of that is the ruby crystal (which is used to determine the value of hp), so the first 400 gold is cost efficient. the other 400 gold is 4 initial wards -> 75*4=300. there, just after buying it the sightstone has a value of 700 gold. and gives up to 300 free gold every time you back. now whats your excuse? go out there and get some light on the map :D
I love picking up a trinket at level 9 with my extra gold and it pays itself off within five minutes just from wards, not even from lives saved
yet, at 35 minutes in, I'm still the only one with an upgraded trinket and the only wards on the map are from me and the support
they all have the trinket, but after 8 minutes, they never even think to use it again
YOU MEAN THAT THE AMATEUR NOOBS SAY 'BARD WON'T HELP US WIN'?
YEEEEEEEEEEEAH!
(im jk i love bard the one bard which supported me did the bestest please dont down vote)
I got one too: "Who cares about drake"
I think that is the general thought process when you are getting rofl-stomped as more vision probably won't help if you can't fight the enemy team anyway.
I would suggest asking people to ward more before the game really gets going.
Oh also I once got told by my support to stop buying wards as an adc.
As a support, my first back item is always a sightstone (unless I suck and died before I got 800 gold), and after I get the sightstone I switch to a red trinket. I keep that river warded at all times and ping until I piss off my ADC to ward one of the two bushes in lane. Though even if I can see the enemy coming the gank and I'm sending warning pings to the ADC and I start trying to back off so the ADC will get the message, sometimes they just really aren't paying attention, and if they die then they yell at me "WHY WASN'T THAT WARDED?!" and I'm just hugging turret like ".-. bro..." A lot of people just completely lack map awareness and there is nothing I can do about it, even when I am doing my job.
Though my favorite complaint is when its aroud mid game and everyone is grouped mid (except for the top laner, I dunno why they always stay top so long), and the top laner gets ganked and yells at me "SUPP SUCKS, NO WARDS", meanwhile I have the area around mid completely warded because that's where the group is pushing and that's where I am. Can't be everywhere at once.
That's a silly statement. Good luck trying to win if you can't see the enemy team!
It's because it is a consumable item that gives no statistical advantage to either yourself or someone else on the team. For someone focused on "doing all the damages", it seems insane that someone would want you to have to keep buying something that doesn't help you deal damage for the WHOLE GAAAAME. They don't have any concept of the subtle advantages that you can gain in LoL.
Basically, it's the same thing that causes young kids getting into pokemon to always have pokemon with 4 damaging moves. If it doesn't make the enemy pokemon's health bar go down, why is it good for me? Even if you could use a move that does zero damage to make the other guy incapable of actually doing anything.
This is just one of the many cases of rationalizing one's own mistakes. There's plenty of evidence to back up the fact that warding positively impacts your win rate. Usually the rule goes "if the entire elite of SoloQ and the entire competitive scene do something a certain way, then that way is superior than any of its alternatives unless proven otherwise by those two establishments". Why is Hecarim so good? Because he has a high win rate in top-tier soloQ and competitive games. Don't go about trying to list cooldowns and stats, as that would lead to a complicated web of statistical comparisons that will become entirely irrelevant at the first-next patch. This is similar to warding. Sure you can say "it spots enemies and the reward is bigger than its cost", but how do you know the reward is bigger than its cost? Does it even matter what the reward is? If you can confirm something works well, you should leave it at that and include that in your own games.
So, next time people tell you to "ban <insert non-meta champ> because he's really strong" or "warding won't help us win this game" or any other nonsense, just think of this analysis.
One last thing I would like to share is how I would deal with this. Unless there's a specific reason not to - for instance when someone asking for a ban has already made clear to be a behaviorally disoriented child by screaming mean things in your team's chat - simply ignore it. You can ask people to do something, but you can't teach them to reason properly, or teach them how to play the game. Not much else to do than to sit back and relax.
I am bronze 3. I have been playing support a lot. Generally I start with the ward trinket and the item appropriate for my champ. I wait until I get enough for a sightstone first time back. At which point I get rid of vision trinket and get sweeping lens because I now have sightstone. Initially I use the sightstone just to keep myself and my adc safe in bot lane. But I only get three wards from it anyways. I don't generally see a lot of other wards out there. I then start getting "hey get your wards out". I have been more than happy to, in fact all three that I can are on the map already. I will get vision wards and place them, but you can only have one pink ward out anyways, that's 4 wards. Not enough, but no one else really uses that trinket they have already even once, no one upgrades them. Three per champ just in stealth wards is 15, then one each pink, that's 20. We don't need them all, just a fraction of those would be nice. Don't rely strictly on supports and junglers.
Well some people in this game are kids who don't understand how the game works.
You (top lane) buy a ward. 75 gold.
You place it somewhere good. It spots the Udyr scooting up towards you. You fall back, not giving the enemy team a kill. (what, 200 gold?) You just made 125 gold over the enemy team. Times the amount of times the ward spots a ganker.
Rito just wants you to think wards are necessary to win. They are just a waste of money. http://i.imgur.com/saM5o.gif
I mained support before I played any other lane, so i'm just going to pretend every random I end up playing along side is just ignorant.
This started blaming me for the loss of the game, even though, I did my job, i'm sorry that when you have an annie support, the mid lane doesnt get a lot of kills, and does get more asssist. whatever. Not even my point.
I looked up the history of our match, and I was just like. "You know what? It says that you didnt buy any wards nor place any . Maye that's why we lost." And so he deleted me form his friends list.
