Some things Ii've noticed while trying to climb.

Aboylova92·Mar 20, 2015·1 votes·952 views

As I've been looking at problems I have, mainly not cs'ing properly, not using item actives (ie randuins active), and not roaming/rotating correctly are big things I've noticed. I've also noticed some of the things others just don't seem to do.

First is optimizing your build. Whether it's just what you get going into lane, or simply your item build, sometimes it just doesn't make sense. For example in one of my recent games I had a Cho top. For some unknown reason the fiora and kat switched so it ended up being a Kat to face him. Whether it's not being able to land his abilities, or more likely his extemely offensive build, he manages to lose. Now instead of building tank and just stopping her every fight, he proceeds to build damage, blowing up every time.

You see this against all ad teams where no one buys a FH, or pretty high AP teams with no locket. Simple items like these can win you games.

Second is teams give up waaaaayyy too easily, and start attacking their teamates. Something didn't go according to plan? Yelling at everyone will do nothing, even if it is their fault. All it's going to do is make them play worse, or just start attacking you.

Third is people need to start looking at what their team is comprised of, and use it to their advantage. If you have a team with Tryn top, Nid jungle, Zed mid, and some assorted bot lane, teamfighting probably isn't your strong suit. However it hurts me to see things like Maokai splitting top while his team is getting destroyed fight after fight. Obviously every team isn't going to be perfect and may have some mix and match, but do what you can to make what you have work.

Obviously I'm not the best player, but these are just some of the things I've really noticed that people could use to maybe help them, and try to improve just like I am.

13 Comments

MrPerson10Mar 20, 20152 votes

Wait...your cho...lost to a Kat? LOL I'm sorry, that's too funny.

arcinexMar 20, 20151 votes

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Wait...your cho...lost to a Kat? LOL I'm sorry, that's too funny.

This x1000000

Aboylova92Mar 20, 20151 votes

Oh believe me, I have no idea how that happened. A lot of these things are pretty basic, peeling for your carries, disrupting channeled abilites, ect, but people just don't seem to get it at times. Again, I'm sure I can find numerous things I can improve on, and have been finding that, but when you try and suggest some of these things, too many people don't listen, or take offense to it.

MrPerson10Mar 20, 20151 votes

It's not even that - they swapped lanes into stupidity - cho literally shits all over Kat.

His Q and W both screw her right over, W stops her without delay and Q knocks up her ult - rendering her useless so he can just walk up and hit R for fr33lo stax.

missouMar 20, 20151 votes

Why? It's a skill matchup. It favors Cho, but the Kat winning isn't unusual, especially in a 5v5 rather than a 1v1.

MrPerson10Mar 20, 20151 votes

In absolutely no way is that a skill matchup. Cho wins it, hands down, every time.

missouMar 21, 20151 votes

lol

turtlecoonMar 21, 20151 votes

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In absolutely no way is that a skill matchup. Cho wins it, hands down, every time.

I'm a master/challenger Cho main. Katarina is by no means a free win lane.

XonraMar 20, 20151 votes

I'd say, as far as giving up too easily goes, people also don't know when they should be hitting surrender, learning from a bad game, and going to the next.

Nothing says stubborn like having 1 turret down, enemy team has 5-6, all the dragons in the game, currently has baron, more than double your kills, but 3 out of 5 people refuse to surrender because it is ranked, and no other reason. Giving up after 5 deaths, that is dumb, but refusing to after 50 to 12, means you need to surrender, go get a snack, and try again.

missouMar 20, 20151 votes

Here's another thing for you to learn. Don't be so confident about the nature of a lane matchup you yourself don't know how to play. Cho'Gath is by no means a hard-counter to Katarina.

Additionally, AP Cho is the standard Cho buildpath. Tank Cho is extremely lackluster in the current meta. I'm not calling the enemy Cho good - chances are, if he was in the same game as you, he wasn't - but if you don't understand the win conditions of a specific champion, don't mock its players for making choices you wouldn't expect.

Think about it like this:

You're laning as Teemo into Tryndamere - a matchup traditionally understood to heavily favor Teemo. You abuse him heavily in the first few levels and go for a close but straightforward dive, but just barely miss the kill because you underestimated his Q heal and end up dying to the turret. Sucks. Happens though - you see failed dives happen now and then to players of any skill level.

Now you head back to lane, down a few hundred gold, but ready to abuse him again, because the matchup still favors you. Unfortunately he came back with a Vamp sceptre, and the enemy jungler is chilling in the top jungle, so you can't go aggressive enough to push him out. He hits 6 right before you and blindly dives you for a kill.

Well shit, now what? You're 0/2 in a lane matchup you were heavily favored to win. You played it pretty well early but got unlucky on a short dive. You came back and played it to the best of your abilities, and had the map awareness to realize it was too dangerous for you to go very aggressive. Then you died once more because he hit level 6 first. You played alright overall, but lost the lane, because things just panned out unfortunately for you.

Is that an unreasonable loss that you should be ridiculed for? No, it happens. The Cho vs Kat example is a MUCH softer lane counter than Teemo vs Tryndamere. The lane can easily swing in Katarina's favor from just a couple small mistakes or differences in jungle pressure. The fact that you're sitting here mocking that Cho'Gath for losing lane is ridiculous.

What's more, his build isn't even bad or unusual. He's going for a very standardized ROA-CDR tank setup. You're literally just salty at a loss and masking your finger-pointing as constructive criticism. But it isn't constructive at all.

Aboylova92Mar 21, 20151 votes

If you're going to go and attack me for some reason, at least read my post before going into some long diatribe explaining how I'm wrong. Look it came down to him going for an extremely damagey build, while also not being able to land abilities. If you can land your knockup into the silence, by all means go for it. He couldn't and didn't know how to trade correctly.

This has nothing to do with being "salty" about a loss. I've long ago stopped blaming my team for something happening. While it might actually be their fault, I'll never play with them again, thus not concentrating on their mistakes doesn't matter. I mean I stated before issue's I've found in my gameplay, and also issues I've seen with others.

missouMar 21, 20151 votes

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If you're going to go and attack me for some reason, at least read my post before going into some long diatribe explaining how I'm wrong. Look it came down to him going for an extremely damagey build, while also not being able to land abilities. If you can land your knockup into the silence, by all means go for it. He couldn't and didn't know how to trade correctly.

This has nothing to do with being "salty" about a loss. I've long ago stopped blaming my team for something happening. While it might actually be their fault, I'll never play with them again, thus not concentrating on their mistakes doesn't matter. I mean I stated before issue's I've found in my gameplay, and also issues I've seen with others.

That's like hating on a Teemo for building AP. AP Cho'Gath is far and away the standard Cho build.

The rest of your post is relatively accurate, so I have nothing to say about it. I'm correcting where you went wrong.