In Promos to Reach Silver, Need General Advice (This is Long and Detailed, Brace Yourself)

Howldoom·6/16/2015, 3:51:01 AM·2 votes·953 views
  • Lost the first two matches being Vi in the jg. General consensus seems to be that I was okay and at least some people were utter apesh**, but I tend to beat myself up instead, thinking of how I could have overcome that to get the win.
  • Feeling that I do not know how to pressure a game (apart from playing Nasus ), or carry a game from behind; my playstyle is trying to be safe, avoiding situations where I would die and feed gold even if it means giving up objectives; also making picks as a jg or engaging/peeling as a support. Come to think of it, I exacerbated issues in the lost games by trying to blow up the squishies or low-health people in 1v4 situations (poor decision-making on my part). I do well when my team does well, and I go along for the ride, making picks when I can, but I don't consider myself to be very good at early ganking, though IDK if that's the self-defeatist tilt speaking or the actual skill I have at ganking. TL,DR: I don't like risks.
  • My main champions currently (that I know I do well somewhat consistently on these days): Vi Leona Janna. I have no idea how to find out what position I can consider my main; jg was something I mained at first, but then Vi's ban rate skyrocketed. Then I was top, but a losing streak on Sion soured my confidence in it. For top I currently stick to Garen or Nasus, but a number of my losses have been for when I couldn't play as my mains and went with champs that I had winning streaks with in the past (Caitlyn, Vayne, Lissandra), only to suffer badly enough to lose my faith in carrying with them. That said, I need a way to find my comfort zone that I can start finding champions for (what position to main, which champs I can do well with in a passive opportunistic sense, which champs can be used in multiple areas without drastic changes to their playstyles, etc)
  • Also told that I am a REALLY sore loser, the kind whose mood deflates exponentially when I lose playing someone that I like the character of on whom I tried to do cool things with or play well really hard. Hates being told that my best isn't good enough, even if I acknowledge that to be true. Wants help but doesn't want to go through someone else's rigid teaching structure; wants to win learning and working on things alone or with friends, not as a student for some Diamond main. Wants LoL to remain a game, despite the stress of ranked, not a job or class outside my own choosing. Contradictory, but then again that's mild Asperger's for ya: rigid mindsets with slow pace of thought everywhere. I also prefer playing the game itself over chain-watching/taking notes on streams. ALL OF THIS IS SUBJECT TO MY DISCRETION, mind. Mine's just not something I feel confident in at the moment.

I could still use an outside opinion or few to help me see the direction I should be headed now to keep climbing: HELPFUL opinions, not rants about how everything I worked on is terrible and that I should uninstall or stick to Normals without screwing everyone else over. Also aware that "there may not be enough data to give a complete picture of my situation"; LoLKing, op.gg, and Match History profiles are the best I have.

7 Comments

ZergReap6/16/2015, 5:58:22 AM1 votes

Hey buddy you're on my friends list, don't remember from what :P... My other acc is BanelingRushGG if you remember that one.

Being afraid to take risks is definitely a type of tilt, and one that I often go on when playing bad. Being too scared will make you miss opportunities and possibly make you lose fights you could have otherwise won. You need to stop caring about winning or losing and start playing to do your best and focus on improving your game play. It's a sketchy time for you if you need to 3-0 promos, but trust me once you stop caring so much you will see improvements. The fear of failure will definitely hold you back. You need to accept you will lose a lot of games, and most people have under a 60% win ratio anyway.

Try to find your favorite role and champion (usually two different champions for your favorite role) that you love and spam games until you master them. For me it was Draven Kalista Vayne Irelia . I call adc / top pref and 75% of the time I get one of those lanes. You need to make sure that you can fill any role as well. 2 Champs you know well enough to play confidently in each lane. You will find that once you find your niche champ/role you will start winning lane and carrying more games (and also getting carried if your team wins and you lose).

Ignore chat as much as possible, I mute enemy team when try-harding, and mute my team mates if they are talking too much and making unnecessary comments. Let go of your pride; the game isn't over if you go 0-2 in lane and you will lose on your best champ. The key is to not let anything carry over from the last game except what you learned.

I would be happy to spectate a couple of your games and give you general tips such as decision-making, power spikes, rotations, warding, item builds and pushing advantages when ahead. Knowledge of the game will carry you harder then outplaying mechanically. Jungle is my least favorite role, but I could still help you out with that if you wanted. Message me anytime I'm online I have you added on my smurf for sure idk about this account. If you want record some games on op.gg and we can spectate together. You are gonna have to accept that you will probably lose your promos. Just go in with no expectations and do your best.

Level 0 Magikarp6/16/2015, 4:33:51 PM1 votes

Hey! I'm only silver 1, but add me and we can play casually together! Something I noticed between bronze and silver games is the amount of shot calling there is. Bronze players rarely shotcall, but it makes all the difference imo. I played on a smurf that had low bronze mmr and went 10-0 with provisional matches (majority of games were adc, a role kind of reliant on the team) and I'd like to think it's because I communicated with the team a lot and pinged a lot, securing objectives that way. There might've only been 2 games where I felt like one of my teammates were exceptionally skilled and if I remember correctly, they were playing jungle (makes a huge impact on the map everywhere). I also told my friend who was climbing from b4 to practice doing that too, because honestly people in that mmr (and silver too) sometimes don't know what to do during certain parts of the game so shotcalling would actually help them. Right now hes b1 or b2. Other times people just have negative attitudes and give up because they don't know what to do.

But anyway, I think learning some flex pick champions would be a good idea. For instance one champ you can play in multiple roles, such as Annie top, mid, or support. Or volibear top/jg/supp. The goal is more of learning the champ so well that you feel comfortable taking it to a different lane even if it's off meta.

Rossonious6/16/2015, 5:28:27 PM1 votes

For the short term objective of winning 6-7 games and hitting silver stay support. I just checked your op.gg and it doesn't look like you do well carrying lately but have in the past. You're on tilt and too concerned with not making mistakes I bet. Myself and many people do well carrying until opposition becomes good enough to make you pay for your mistakes...then the natural tendency is to become risk adverse.

My football coach fixed that mentality in me real quick "IF YOURE MAKING A MISTAKE MAKE IT FULL SPEED!!!!" Just make your mistakes full speed if you're stuck on a team that is forcing you to carry. Otherwise, in the short term just to get to silver and get your breathing room id tell you to support cuz you're very good at it. I'm literally in same boat as you right now and gonna try to climb tonight and the next few days. Feel free to add me I'll duo with you. Good luck

TheNoxusWarrior6/16/2015, 8:20:45 PM1 votes

I got outta bronze by playing Sion Maokai Nasus Chogath playing them pretty much everywhere but adc obviously and I am the type of player that likes to win lane by out farming and pressuring the lane by pushing to the tower (while i have wards up). I noticed that most people in the bronze/silver elo cant farm under tower also your lane opponent can't roam without losing a good amount of cs or even a tower. Then what I do is make it where the wave pushes by itself and roam and help team. That way you're there for the team fights but if nothing happens minions could take a tower. If you run tp (this is mostly top lane (my main)) you can push wave and tp down for a teamfight and take a dragon or tower. This is my play style its not for everyone but it might be worth trying for you.

P.S. if you have high damage top laner or jung maokai/cho'gath mid is AWESOME!

TotN Titan6/16/2015, 8:38:08 PM1 votes

I have noticed that you are a big fan of Vi, a champion you have posted several times on and asked for help/insight as to why you have been having losing streaks with her. Your sentence about playing passively as such an aggressive, early pressure champion reveals a lot. If your playstyle is less about pressing advantages and being aggressive, you should be avoiding champions like Vi. Assassins and bruisers require you to have a little taste for blood and pressure the enemy with aggressive plays (while not throwing kills at the enemy carries). You're better off with the undying tank champions like Nasus, Malphite, Maokai or even Sion for top lane/jungle, who are all champions that have fairly simple mechanics, but have strong presence in the late game. These champions let you peel really well for your carries, provide some reasonable damage, and build advantage without needing to be aggressive and bloodthirsty for kills. To climb, you need to find champions that allow you to contribute to those late game team fights for more than just a quick dive into the enemy and a single Ultimate before they send you to the fountain.

Howldoom6/17/2015, 4:30:04 AM1 votes

So I think I'm getting the point of the responses: I just can't carry as a bruiser with my playstyle. I won one game as Nasus in Ranked, then lost twice in Normals as Shyvana and MonkeyKing. In both of them, laners lost horribly, and in the Wukong match I couldn't kill Ekko because I didn't want to risk him killing me under his turret; that, and Fiddlesticks kept ganking. Then Ekko was building Sunfire and RoA so I couldn't burst him down; then starting roaming everywhere, getting kills with the help of the fed Quinn and Ziggs. I did well KDA-wise, but either my team would start/get caught in teamfights when I wasn't there, or the enemy team would rotate and split-push the turrets down when I tried porting in to help.

That all said: I'm gonna stick to Nasus top and Janna/Leona supp in Ranked, then screw around in Normals on the side, trying out those champs you've suggested and saving up for my hopeful-key-to-victory Maokai . I like the look of his kit.