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Why is this community so full of ragers? Why don't they try to help feeders instead?

Balareon·2/4/2015, 10:51:33 PM·3 votes·1,021 views

So, I was doing my second placement as zed mid and I lost. I went 0/2 to a malzahar in lane and my blitzcrank just went off on me. He just started raging at me nonstop like I was purposely losing or something, I told him that Im trying to help being behind and all and I did what I could but he just didnt stop. He ridiculed me and raged at me until I muted him, and then when I muted him his adc took over and started raging at me instead. I told them that when someone is playing badly they get angry and raging at them only makes them worse and play worse but clearly they didn't care, instead she just called me a pussy. Like damn, why do people do this? It's a game, youre losing? Cool, don't rage at people for it because it literally does nothing except make your whole team play worse. There is a reason I completely stopped raging in my games about 4 or 5 months ago because I realized all it did was take that little or big chance you had of winning and throw it out the window. Raging makes the rager play worse and the person being raged at and even makes the team not work together. Why cant people get that simple concept and instead of raging help the person. That's what I do when I see someone feeding on my team. I even apologized once to the enemy laner because I was wrecking him so badly he couldn't even sit under turret and live. A lot of times if I destroy someone in lane after the game I give them tips, if someone on my team is feeding I try to give them some tips too, but raging at them does nothing to help. Anyway, this is just what i wanted to say because I definitely believe we could have won that game if we had all stayed calm and tried to help the behind zed (me) instead of getting angry and pretty much afk raging.

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mvargus2/5/2015, 3:07:40 PM2 votes

You already see a number of good answers. But I feel I can still contribute.

The thing you have to remember is that most "children" are growing up in an environment where they aren't taught how to deal with adversity. (I'm old enough to be the parent of most of the pro level players) For years, I've been hearing tales about how school sports don't keep score so that no one is ever on the losing team no matter how poorly they play. We heard that in many schools the lowest possible grade is a 'C' which means that again, no one fails.... ever.

But LoL is a "zero sum" game. In the end the number of winners must equal the number of losers, so people who have never failed and never had to learn from failure wind up losing a match, and they don't understand why. Their immediate and instinctive reaction is to look for a reason outside themselves. It's very had to step back and say. "If only I had done something different. It is MY responsibility for my own play." Instead you get. "Our top lane was feeding" or "My support failed to keep me alive" or "I went in for an attack and this other player failed to follow up."

And when you get the blame throwing combined with an inability to accept failure (due to never having failed before) you get a "rager" who attacks others blindly.

And you are right it doesn't help. Last night I was in a game where 2 of my teammates and I were on teamspeak, but we had no connection to the other 2 players, and we ended up with a very inexperienced player in one of those spots. We ended up losing badly and during the match I had to listen to one of my partners complaining about the inexperienced player's bad item choices. The one nice thing was he didn't go off on the player, he just ranted verbally as we did our best. IMO this is "good" venting, as it did allow the player to get rid of the stress without making the other player defensive. But I will admit I worried that it would end up in chat.

There is no solution. Most players will hopefully eventually learn that they play better and win more often if they stay positive, but many have 18+ years of never having failed which builds up a barrier they have to overcome if they really want to handle the game better.

Reynard the ƒox2/4/2015, 11:00:55 PM2 votes

I'll tell you why. When someone feeds or does poorly, blame starts to circulate. The people who play this game have fragile egos. God forbid that someone (even rightfully) point out their mistakes and lower their self esteem. So, in an attempt to take the focus away from their own poor play, players start to blame and rage in hopes that the team won't flame them, but instead target someone else. This happens on a subconscious level.

Why do people rage at feeders? They want to isolate themselves from that person so that they cannot be associated with them at all, and are therefore safe from blame. This preserves their ego. i.e. 'I did great, but that guy fed and we lost', when the truth is 'I did well in lane and was too concerned with farming/getting more kills than to try and help that guy get back in the game'.

It's also why players complain about their teams in /all chat. When someone does that, they're basically saying 'hey, did you notice me doing well? I'm worried I'll get blamed for this loss so I need you to validate my play so I won't be associated with anyone who did bad.'

Big Hans2/5/2015, 7:51:45 AM1 votes

Im sad to admit I sometimes get suckered into trying to explain how flaming is negatively affecting our chances to win. Just like the flaming is decreasing your chaces so is arguing with the flamer. The only right thing is to mute before you get the urge to say anything.

This is advice I need to keep repeating to myself more then anything.

Raxicor2/5/2015, 5:24:45 PM1 votes

I think its because the ragers are feeling helpless to do anything about feeders. Like everyone's on the same page if they're winning, but if someone begins to struggle the ragers panic. They can handle winning all lanes, but don't know what to do if there's someone they need to carry. I played my first promotional for s5 yesterday and unfortunately had a bad time in lane. My mid was all up in my business so I muted them and began to build tank(I was top) and buying wards. After my tower inevitably fell, I pushed the lane up and began to roam and ward - I even helped mid out. I'm sure they raged in chat about it, but whatever. 'Can't hear you over my mute button! Lalalalala!' We won. :D I've heard people recommending using mute at the beginning of the game, but I usually wait until trouble starts. And I don't think I could bring myself to mute the jungler. To me the jungler is like the team captain. He calls the ganks/counterganks and does the judgement call on the buffs and monster objectives. x'D

GummyBearWookiee2/5/2015, 5:49:20 PM1 votes

Why is the game so full of ragers? Because the game is so full of teenagers. The best thing about this game is the 5% of the community that doesn't act like a brat....the worst part about this game is the other 95% of the community.

Good for you for stopping with the rage. All you can do is help those that look like they need it....for those that start the rage...all you can do is mute. You can't help those that refuse to even help themselves. They'll eventually become like you and turn over a new leaf, get banned, or leave.

RamboDash152/5/2015, 9:08:28 PM1 votes

All we can do is report those who rage and help those who are being raged at whenever we can. I was playing a game and the support was still learning how to support. The adc was raging non stop, and got extremely saltly in the post-game chat. I explained to him that if he got a lack-luster support in the future that the best thing to do is to give them tips on what to do (Since they seem to know everything, hence the rage =P). He came to his senses, apologized, and I've played a few games with him with no salt what so ever. Some people just need time to calm down and come to their senses.

Balareon2/9/2015, 6:31:09 PM1 votes

So, i just got flamed today by an anivia mid because I died once before I could drop my new wards as support. I literally warded all game including pink wards and told her everyone should buy wards and I can only put down 3 at a time. She continued flaming and saying that noone should ever buy wards but support and that im stupid for even suggesting she ward along with me... Yah, why does every moba community have a terrible community. Ive played Dota, strife, and league, as well as countless of other online games. Mobas are the only games where I see people constantly flaming and raging.

Nucleophilic atk2/9/2015, 8:11:21 PM1 votes

Because if you try to "help" them, they say "stfu nub i no wat im doin" and ask everyone to report you for "toxic".

1 Wing2/5/2015, 3:28:47 AM1 votes

I think it's more that, no one has time in game to write essays on how to improve. Even if you did, as the stages of the game progress, it becomes too late to go back and fix old mistakes. Even if you do successfully train a bad player in a game, then you'll likely never see them again afterwards, so there's nearly no incentive to try to be a helpful player.