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i need help with strategies in fights and laning

kamui chidori··2 votes·681 views

Hi, im a s5 player that wants to learn more on the positioning and higher strategies to winning a ranked or even laning against someone. I want to know if any higher elo player can help me out with this or to even learn more advanced laning procedures and overall a better understanding of the game and what to do in most situations. Thank you taking time in reading this. Any help with be gladly appreciated.

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DarthSpectrum3 votes

There are quite a lot of nuances in the laning phase, so I will just list some general ones.

**1. AA's draw minion aggro if you are close to minion range. ** This means that you should not AA someone within a minion wave. At level 1, the minions will guarantee do more damage than 1 AA and 1 ability if you don't clear them first. However, this also means that Ranged champion have a tremendous advantage against melee champions early on. If you can, position yourself to not take aggro and poke whenever you can.

2. Ward the entrances from the Jungle This is really important. I can't emphasis enough that you should ward the river. Try getting a pink ward every time you back.

3. Manage your minion wave Don't let the minions push back and forth, control the waves. Assuming the enemy does now know these general techniques, here is how to control the minion wave.

  1. Kill enemy minions to push the wave to their tower.
  2. Leave one or more minions behind, get aggro, walk just in front of your tower range, tank the minions, and let your next wave aggro onto these minions to push the wave towards you . (You can also lead the minions into the river to make your wave miss the enemy's wave.)
  3. You can bounce your wave off the enemy turret by moving ahead of your minion wave, tank the enemy minions, clear them before the two waves meet, and have your wave clash in to the enemy turret. The wave will then reset to the middle.

Using these strategies, you can manage the minion wave and position yourself to not be vulnerable to ganks. There are many ways to use these basic strategies, for example, if the enemy starts a camp before coming to lane, you use strategy number 2 to lead the minions into the river, so most of your first wave miss the enemy minion wave and clash into the enemy tower, making your opponent miss a wave of CS.

Generally, use strategy one when you want to leave the lane. Use strategy two when you want to deny CS, bait the enemy for a gank, or farm close to turret. Use strategy three if the minions are moving into an unfavorable position and you need the lane reset.

4. Have a general understanding of your opponents kit and how to play around it Just search up the enemy champion while the game loads, and consider how you will play the match up. Some match ups such as Jax vs Vladimir or Yasuo vs Akali requires immediate level 1 action on Jax/Yasuo's part before they get countered into oblivion. If you miss that opportunity, you will probably lose the lane.

As well, consider what items you will buy. No single build works for every game

5. Don't move pass the mid point of your lane without wards and an advantage over your opponent If you are past the middle of your lane, that means the enemy can flash into his/her turret if he/she has to, but you can't flash to your own. It leaves you unnecessarily susceptible to ganks. Of course, in some match ups such as against Ezreal, it is probably a good idea to push the lane.

If you find that the lane is constantly getting shoved towards the opposing side and the enemy laner is playing too safe for a kill, just roam to another lane.

For team fighting, it really depends on what champion you are fighting. Some champions such as Tryndamere are better off split pushing. Just learn and practice a few champions for team fights.

Although a general guide lane is that, Assassins: 100-0 enemy ADC and cause as much damage before dying Tanks: Peel off enemies from your carries or engage on enemy carries and lock them down. ADC: Don't get caught, just attack whatever is the safest. Mages: Chunk the enemy team with long range spells or provide heavy CC or peel in an engage. Fighters: Focus enemy carries, or try to distract the enemy team from locking down your carries. (Depends on the champion you are playing.)

kamui chidori1 votes

wow, thank you so much sir. this is incredible to me. now this is just the greatest. thank you so much. this helps a lot because i am focusing on adc a lot more

DarthSpectrum2 votes

I highly recommend learning Jinx to rank up. I used her to carry myself out of low Silver.

Jinx can punish all the high difficulty ADCs such as Vayne and Kalista due to the range on her rockets. As well, all of her counters except Graves need practice to be played effectively.

At low ELO, games often drag on because players are not coordinated enough to end sooner. This is great for Jinx because she is one of the strongest ADCs late game.

Edit: I forgot to mention to buy wards. A lot of ADCs don't buy wards or upgrade their trinket, which is really a loss on their part. Just get a pink ward now and then if you find you have gold left over and switch to the 2nd tier yellow, red, or blue trinket ASAP.

The Greater Stealth Totem can prevent enemies from juking you with a bush. The Blue trinket has a similar effect, except it can also be used to scout enemies out for your Super Mega Death Rocket. The Oracle Lens basically counters Vayne, Twitch, and every champion that relies on stealth.

kamui chidori1 votes

sweet thank for you putting your time into this, if i may ask, is there any way you can spectate a game of mine as adc and give pointers on what to do in game. If not, it is perfectly fine. i just want to give my appreciation for the help.

hh the thinker2 votes

for positioning, you have to understand what your champ can do and it's range and what their champs can do and their range really. keep in mind flash engages. once you understand what you can do and what they can do, it shouldn't surprise you if they try something and you will be ready for it. this takes time since their are a lot of different combination of match ups.

if you want help if a few things, i can try to answer any more questions you may have.

kamui chidori1 votes

thank you, i actually have one more too. what do you or other players do to abuse another person in lane like in bot as adc or top, like when is the right moment to freeze and what to do when an ace happens. like what objective to go for. sorry for lake reply, was thinking a lot on what to say

Zmuecat2 votes

In lane, if you are looking to abuse people you are looking for lane bullies.

For ADC, Graves, Miss Fortune, or Varus (if you can land your Qs). Cait can be, Ashe as well. Don't know much about top lane.

When an ace happens, most of the time you should always go for an inhibitor whenever possible. Super minions pushing lanes will let you baron more safely, especially if you don't ace the other time and just pick off one or two of them.

I ask my ADC to freeze a lane if the enemy is too low or too scared to come near the minion wave because of harass, but they are too high in terms of health to dive and kill.

Support main, don't know much about top.

kamui chidori1 votes

thank you for the great advice, this will help in ranked and for me having a better understanding

hh the thinker2 votes

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thank you, i actually have one more too. what do you or other players do to abuse another person in lane like in bot as adc or top, like when is the right moment to freeze and what to do when an ace happens. like what objective to go for. sorry for lake reply, was thinking a lot on what to say

don't worry about late replies, I look back for a day or so.

as for what I do when I get ahead, I abuse the other laners. I will freeze the lane as much as possible and stop the other person from farming. if I'm strong enough to even win in a gank, I will push it to their tower and poke them there so they are forced to cs under tower while also being poked at. either of these things work, but if you push to tower, you have to be more careful of getting ganked of course. it's always safer freezing the lane, and you can almost always do this unless they clear it, and they can only really do that when they are even or ahead.

as for when there is an ace, this is the order: nexus, nexus towers, inhib tower and inhib (it really depends on a solo inhib because it can fall a few times without having that great of an impact on some games, but often an inhib best after nexus towers), two towers, baron, tower, drag. baron and drag help you get more objectives so if you can get two towers right away, go for that. keep in mind though that it's better to do something with your team than by yourself even if they aren't right so if they want a drag when there are 50 minute times, you can help them with that and try for one tower if there is time.

kamui chidori1 votes

sweet thanks a lot man, this is really helpful. hopefuly this can can give me help in solo que so that i can reach gold or so

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