How to raise MRR?

Zoz0·Jul 23, 2015·1 votes·1,046 views

I recently dropped from Gold V to silver II.

A pretty big drop in which required a lot of losses. Some of them I deserved, most of them I tried my best but my team let me down. And now I've realized my MRR is absolute shit, and because of that, I'm being paired with people that make more mistakes than I do. It's hard to win when your team is making mistakes that you can't fix. Because I've been playing with Golds and now I'm playing with low silvers, I notice more mistakes and it makes me cringe. I know I do not belong down here and I'm trying very hard to fix my win/loss.

Currently, it is: Win: 87 Loss: 111

Does anyone have any tips on how to win more games? I main mid and support if Mid is taken. Most of the times, I play Ahri and I keep my lane under controll and go postive in score and get good CS. Roaming is a bit difficult for me, but I've been adapting and helping out. I just really need some tips. I feel like my losses are my teams fault because, I don't die that much, I keep a positive attitude (yet they bash and yell at each other), I ward, upgrade trinket, I keep my team alert to when dragon is coming up, etc.

I would like to know how to help my team out and carry myself out of this horrid MRR. Pls

14 Comments

StratJul 23, 20151 votes

It's MMR - Match Making Rating.

The best way to raise you MMR is by playing better. Stop blaming your team - there are some games that aren't controllable, but the vast majority of them have plenty of ways you can win, even as a support player. There's always something you can do better, especially in low Elo.

People in your Elo literally don't know the basics of the game. If you can't dominate them, then that means you don't understand the basics of the game. Study up and revise things by watching YouTube videos on basic LoL skills and mechanics. You'll probably be surprised to find out that there are a bunch of things you're not even aware of.

KirynDawnJul 23, 20151 votes

I was in the same exact boat. What I did was just kept playing and I dropped so far I could hard carry again. Once I was able to hard carry again I was able to get hot streaks and raise my mmr to get better teammates and my win/loss ratio improved.

Probably not the best advice (drop to climb). but its what I did when I was in this position

joebobby1412Jul 23, 20151 votes

To raise MMR you just need to win more. I know it's not that easy, but it is that simple. Honestly, asking for broad "game winning" tips, isn't going to get you anything. If you asked more specific things, people could go into more detail. For example: you mention maining Ahri, ask for tips on build/match ups/power spikes, or how you are starting to roam more ask for tips on when and where you should be roaming.

It's great that you keep a positive attitude in your games, but you have to recognize that every loss is partially your fault. Maybe you aren't the main contributor, but you are part of the team and the team wins or loses together. It's okay to acknowledge other people's mistakes, but you have to try to acknowledge your own as well. Ask a friend to spectate a game and point out mistakes you make, take this criticism not as a "wow, you are so bad." but as a "these are the things you can improve on".

colesyJul 23, 20151 votes

no, your losses are not your team's fault. people are in their MMR because they belong in their MMR. if your team is getting caught out, tell them to try to not get caught out. ping objectives. ping MIA (even for other lanes), even discuss strategy in close games (like tell player x to focus player y in next team fight etc.). then there's just stuff like farming well, making sure your itemisation is on point and roaming. the big thing to note about higher divisions is that you'll see that players roam like crazy in the laning phase. you'll see streamers playing in top lane walk to their lane and then a nautilus support walks out of their brush, locks them in place and they give up a kill. you'll see a bot lane kill one of their opponents and then the rest of the opposing team will all collapse on the bot lane who snagged that kill and they'll get two themselves and then probably a dragon off of it and maybe a tower or two.

Matthias9119Jul 24, 20151 votes

MMR.

I'm being paired with people that make more mistakes than I do. It's hard to win when your team is making mistakes that you can't fix.

Although this is true, your opponents are also those same people, and there are 5 of them and only 4 of your teammates. Statistically, your team should be better simply because it only has four of "them" on it -- plus you.

You may get the occasional teammate who makes so many mistakes (or just AFKs out) that you can't win. But if you're really a Gold-tier player you should be doing a lot more than just "I don't die that much" against mid-Silver players. You should be handily winning your lane almost every game, then roaming and putting massive pressure on the other lanes too. If you can't do that consistently, then I hate to break it to you -- but you're not as good as you think you are.

Zoz0Jul 24, 20151 votes

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MMR.

Although this is true, your opponents are also those same people, and there are 5 of them and only 4 of your teammates. Statistically, your team should be better simply because it only has four of "them" on it -- plus you.

You may get the occasional teammate who makes so many mistakes (or just AFKs out) that you can't win. But if you're really a Gold-tier player you should be doing a lot more than just "I don't die that much" against mid-Silver players. You should be handily winning your lane almost every game, then roaming and putting massive pressure on the other lanes too. If you can't do that consistently, then I hate to break it to you -- but you're not as good as you think you are.

Honestly, I do seem to outplay and win my lane. I go positive and have equal or better CS. I think roaming may be my problem. I heard once from a pro coach that if you're dominating your lane, to NOT roam, unless its ABSOLUTELY needed. He said this because, if you leave your lane it gives your opponent time to cs and catch back up. He said to keep them absolutely shut down. Plus, whenever I roam, It usually doesn't go well. This is why I feel the losses are my fault, but I don't know exactly why. I win my lane, yet when I roam it just doesn't go well. I'm legit just in a mess that I don't think I can get out of xD It's loss after loss, even if I do well.

Matthias9119Jul 25, 20151 votes

I heard once from a pro coach that if you're dominating your lane, to NOT roam, unless its ABSOLUTELY needed. He said this because, if you leave your lane it gives your opponent time to cs and catch back up. He said to keep them absolutely shut down.

You shouldn't roam if roaming won't make a difference. And against high-level opponents, sure, you have to be careful that you don't simply let them free-farm. Going and sitting in the river brush in bot for 60 seconds and getting nothing out of it is a bad plan.

But if your lane opponent has bad waveclear and is missing CS left and right, or you can gank top to help them snowball and win their lane, or the enemy botlane is pushed up to your tower and you and the jungler can 4v2 or 4v3 them and get an easy Dragon -- you should be roaming if you're winning mid.

I looked at some of your match histories, and you might be "winning" lane, but you're definitely not dominating it most of the time. And your CS is not great for a midlaner. Sometimes you're sub-100 in a 25-30 minute match, even when you're not getting killed much. And my God, man. Ward. Ward something, anywhere. You're barely using your trinket, and sometimes not upgrading it.

Zoz0Jul 25, 20151 votes

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You shouldn't roam if roaming won't make a difference. And against high-level opponents, sure, you have to be careful that you don't simply let them free-farm. Going and sitting in the river brush in bot for 60 seconds and getting nothing out of it is a bad plan.

But if your lane opponent has bad waveclear and is missing CS left and right, or you can gank top to help them snowball and win their lane, or the enemy botlane is pushed up to your tower and you and the jungler can 4v2 or 4v3 them and get an easy Dragon -- you should be roaming if you're winning mid.

I looked at some of your match histories, and you might be "winning" lane, but you're definitely not dominating it most of the time. And your CS is not great for a midlaner. Sometimes you're sub-100 in a 25-30 minute match, even when you're not getting killed much. And my God, man. Ward. Ward something, anywhere. You're barely using your trinket, and sometimes not upgrading it.

I may not have that good of CS or anything, still learning ofc. Gold/silver is pretty low elo imo. But you'd be surprised. You said I need to ward? I literally ward more than any lane in all of my games (besides support). So yah i could improve on that some more, but right now I ward more than others.

Matthias9119Jul 25, 20151 votes

I may not have that good of CS or anything, still learning ofc. Gold/silver is pretty low elo imo.

Gold is about the top 25-30% of Ranked (depending on how you want to count players in the bottom of Gold V): http://na.op.gg/statistics/tier/

I don't know why you're expecting to be ranked well above median if you're admitting your skills need work. I mean, I suck, but at least I understand why I suck. :-)

So yah i could improve on that some more, but right now I ward more than others.

Um, no. You don't.

Just working backwards grabbing games, these are the most recent three Ranked matches where you played mid:

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1896792546/203431264?tab=stats http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1896725504/203431264?tab=stats http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1896539263/203431264?tab=stats

You had the fewest wards placed on your team in all of them.

Zoz0Jul 28, 20151 votes

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Gold is about the top 25-30% of Ranked (depending on how you want to count players in the bottom of Gold V): http://na.op.gg/statistics/tier/

I don't know why you're expecting to be ranked well above median if you're admitting your skills need work. I mean, I suck, but at least I understand why I suck. :-)

Um, no. You don't.

Just working backwards grabbing games, these are the most recent three Ranked matches where you played mid:

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1896792546/203431264?tab=stats http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1896725504/203431264?tab=stats http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1896539263/203431264?tab=stats

You had the fewest wards placed on your team in all of them.

I had the fewest cause i use a pink ward... it stays most of the game. .... and when it goes out. i place again...

SHINIGAMlJul 25, 20151 votes

MMR the biggest BS in the history of gaming, something that you dont even know what it is exactly (noone knows his exact mmr cause riot wants to keep secret). Anyway, i still dont get why they cant make ranked based on mmr or just pair you with ppl in your own rank (+ 1 - 1 eg gold 3 with only gold 4 or 5)

Matthias9119Jul 25, 20151 votes

i still dont get why they cant make ranked based on mmr

Matchmaking in all modes is entirely based on MMR. "Rank" is basically a pretty set of labels on top of MMR.

or just pair you with ppl in your own rank (+ 1 - 1 eg gold 3 with only gold 4 or 5)

In practice this is generally what happens, except for players who are in a "V" division and losing a lot but not enough to get demoted down to the next tier, or ones who are winning a lot but getting really bad luck in their promos. i.e. a "Gold V" can really have an MMR as low as Silver IV and not get demoted.

If they were going to make it strictly place you against players in the same division or adjacent ones, they'd have to also move you up/down as soon as your MMR got out of line for that division. Which would go back to the whole "endless grind where every game feels like a promo match" thing they were trying to avoid with the tier/division system.

SHINIGAMlJul 25, 20151 votes

well i am gold v, and in an all gold 4-3 team i had enemy team with at least two silver 3. Anyway, first things first.

ALL MODES??? are u fucking joking. In my smurf account lvl 24 btw i got paired with ppl who are diamond and plat and the "magic" of MMR to balance it gives them a level 6 guys ????????????????? THIS IS THE MEANING OF INSANITY. why do u even pair ppl who are under lvl 30 to guy that are clearly a "bit better"???
"every game as a promo" - well if go on ranked then u should play every game like it is a promo - play to win not have fun, normal (and in my case ARAM) is for fun
why cant i know my MMR? it should be in my profile why keep it secret - maybe cause ppl would actually have proof that the matchmaking is a bit, just a bit, BAD.
IP won /lost is based on MMR, WHY? in which sport this happens? think about it in basketball terms and u see how insane this is. anyway its riot, so i dont care anymore