Forever stuck in Bronze V.

The #1 thing to remember is ATTITUDE. DO NOT MENTALLY FF. If you don't believe you can win, you won't win.

Looks like your streak was just broken; congrats on your 2nd win. If you are playing again, I'll spectate through op.gg and post some advice.

I would recommend sticking exclusively to the builds in the item shop's Recommended tab until you have a better understanding of proper builds.

Right off the bat:

1. Rune pages obviously need a little work. My advice would be to work towards having a full set or AD reds+quints and blues of your choice. (MR is the safest bet) Armor yellows are fine.

2. Mastery pages, make em. You hae a single page, with 25 points in defense, and no points elsewhere. It is worthwhile to have a couple of pre-made pages so you don't risk making a mistake making the page in champ-select.

3. Your builds are bad, really really bad. To the point that higher ranked players would likely report you for trolling with those builds.

3a) Boots are almost never optional. Especially on melee champions. Easy guide to boots. ADC>AS boots. Bruisers/tanks: Merc Treds or Ninja Tabis. Support: Ionian boots. Mages: Sorc shoes. Mobis/Swiftness boots are kinda situational.

3b) Jungle items are not optional for junglers. The upgrades make your smite more useful, give you more gold, and the enchants are quite powerful.

3c) General builds.

Hecarim (top): Trinity>tank items. Hecarim (jungle): Warrior or Cinderhulk encahnt>Trinity if your team needs more damage> tank Garen: Full tank (mercs, Randuins, BViel, Warmogs, Thornmail, Spirit Visage) or 1 damage item into full tank. (The new Black Cleaver works pretty well on Garen) Jax: Trinity>BotRK> Randuins>more tank items. Gaurdian Angel is a solid choice. Xin: Typically one damage item into one defense item. Then either go more tank items if you die to fast, or another damage item if you survive reasonably long in teamfights. Mundo: Typically just full tank. You can get a Wit's End later in the match if you want some more damage. Basic ADC build: IE>Shiv>LW>BT>GA. You usually want boots between IE and Shiv. Basic mage build: Deathcap, hourglass, void staff, sorc shoes, Luden's Echo, GA. The order can vary based upon need and the specific mage you are playing. Basic support build: GP5 item, sightstone, boots (ionian, mobis if you plan to roam), Locket, whatever you want after that. I say Locket because it gives you some survivability and tends to be a fairly valuable pickup in most games.

Those builds are likely not ideal for every game or every champ, but they are decent catch-all builds.

4. Your CS tends to be really low. In all honesty, you might find more success if you played champs who have an easier time CSing.

5. Your skill orders are often less than ideal. Its worth looking at a couple of guides just to see if you have the correct skill orders. In fact, checking guides is a good way to get fairly reliable skill and build orders.

so I just looked at your builds, and they're pretty much all absolutely disgraceful.

build the wrong items and you lose games, who woulda thought?

The only advice I can give you is to keep on playing, and maybe pick champions that are specifically better for carrying/pushing, such as Yi, Tryndamere, etc.

If you play enough games and get ahead on those champs, a lot of the time in lower rank no one can stop you. Remember that ranking is a mixture of time spent + luck + skill, so with enough playing, if you belong somewhere higher up, you will _eventually _ get there, even if it takes a long time.

Don't worry about ranked. If it's such a problem, don't play it; most people don't. Getting a different shiny icon doesn't prove anything to yourself.

Honest post section:

Dude, it's pretty obvious why you lose so much.

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During this time. I have played in a party with Plat, Gold and Silver players, and all manages to outperform them. So, I thought when I got to Ranked, I would be on my way to Diamond.... Somewhere during my 4 lost however, I had already given up. ...My friend had gotten extremely depressed... Well. My optimism quickly went down the drain....and generally did not do anyone near as good as I should have...

I predicted about 25 were done deals before they ended. I know, its always obvious.... I just always know that I will lose because either a mistake either I or my teammates made...

TLDR: i give up

You have absolutely thrown 78% of your games, it's not a surprise that you lost. It's really easy to beat opponents who stop playing, so of course they beat you. There is nothing else to expect. It's the League of Throws down there, anything can happen and huge turnarounds happen all the time because nobody knows how to use an advantage so being ahead is next to meaningless. There were 25 games that could've been won if the team kept on. But you, you just automatically quit, so your team is down a member because you've checked out already. It doesn't help that you have a very crappy attitude on top of this. You get all bummed out and give up because you think you are better than you are and won't do anything to help your situation, preferring make up excuses about provisionals being rigged and blaming your teammates like every other toxic bronzie rather than doing something useful like trying to learn how to improve.

If it's such a problem, don't play it. Don't worry about ranked.

Your best way to learn is to continue playing. And don't be dishonest about how terrible you are. The sooner you admit "yeah I'm shit, I'm nowhere near ready for ranked" Then you can start focusing on your problems that keep you from climbing... And while you play. Look up guides. Ask players who know what they're doing to explain things to you. Generally anyone 2.3kmmr+ should be a good person to add and talk to and just ask politely for their time.

Its very hard to find people like me who want to help when they can. Personally I don't play on NA anymore. my last NA account was moved to LAN and now both my accounts that were on NA are now on LAN I have an EU and a KR account as well.

If you want to learn find someone who's just better than you. (obviously any elo above your own) And then just ask them for some scrimming/1v1ing. And then after your game. Ask them (politely) to review what you did wrong and how to improve. Now my suggest is to find someone high elo.. high plat+ usually.

That doesn't mean you HAVE TO. But I would STRONGLY suggest doing that... generally anyone 2k+ mmr is probably going to offer sound advice assuming they play your role. For me I have experience in all roles and prior experience to league. I've been playing moba's since dota chaos/aeon of strife/Dota ALL STARS... So my experience was quite broad coming into league in closed beta. Most kids now a days don't even know what dota is let alone what any moba is prior to league so their mechanics are completely ground zero and must builld on nothing.

This is quite hard to do for any game genre... but usually mobas/action rpgs/RTS are the toughest to get good mechanics for imo.

I think a good way to practice proper mouse movement is to place 3 wards around a tri bush and move your mouse to each ward and try to click the very ward itself (it will highlight when its selected usually by a left click etc)... This will help you learn mouse percision.

Another tip is to practice watching paths a jungler takes. personally I main the jungle so these movements and clearing and thought process are like breathing air to me. But to a lot of newer players or lower elos it's not common knowledge and understanding why and when and how someone is doing somethins is just as important as breathing air if you want to learn anything properly =]

For example. Why did shaco clear his red on bot side of map first with all his boxes? He plans to invade at the enemy red or skip his golems and go right for the enemy at his blue while he's clearing it.

Why did shaco take blue orb instead of any other? because blue orb lets you see them to make SURE they are they aaround 1-3 seconds before you go in. Where as a ward is generally something you cant place until you're already in his face anyway .. you can orb near a wall and they won't see the orb if you place it correctly you'll see the buff getting damaged and they won't be any wiser.

Most decent players will ward to see you coming but if shaco invades and they're too ignorant to run away then you blow their junglers flash and take his buff or kill him OR make him so low he has to recall with flash up and he loses farming time while you take his buff/gank a lane/clear your own jungle....

Another thing to mention is cooldowns are important. Knowing how long until your next ult is important to time when you're going in. If you just ulted.. stop trying to kill people. Its just not going to happen unless your ally has ult or the enemy fucks up badly. Which most likely isn't going to happen. Play aggressive in solo queue but always play smart.

Passivity doesn't win games. its true.

my fingers are tired of typing now/

I'll pop on every once in awhile to reply. If you have questions, ask.

And make sure they're detail and make sure you're asking the right questions. Its a solid chance to gain someones help who knows enough about the game to at the very least help you climb solo queue to diamond eventually\

If you want to play with me on NA I have an account thats on there but its only level like 20 or something I only play with my girlfriend/best irl friend on that account... but I suppose I could log on for the sake of spectating a game you play while we chat on skype or something and I explain to you what you do wrong as you do it and how to do it better next time.

You must be completely open to listening to almost everything I tell you. Even if I sound like I dick, I'm only trying to help. You must be willing to break away from what you think you know and listen and pretend you're learning the game brand new.

I'll be honest. bronze means you're not even slightly below average at the game. it means you're basically new to any moba ever created..like.. fresh baby new.

So we've gotta break you out of your mindset that you're in and start back at zero. And then build on a solid base where you can improve away from the negativity of bronze area.

truth be told.. bronze was made so new players could fall to it and learn with others. But thats not how it turned out, the road to hell is paved with good intentions and theres not much riot or anyone can do at this point, its a place with shit players go to rage... nothing more at this point honestly.

Theres hardly anything to be learned there and if your mmr drops low enough to go into bronze then its time for the equivilant of major surgery to get you on the track of learning the right way to improve.

Add me. If you listen to everything I have to say, you might get diamond eventually. I have to assume this is your first/very little moba experience prior to league.

I can help, but if you don't want to take all/most-of my advice I'm not going to waste my time

Maybe I'll log on and see if you're on later. Maybe I won't. We'll see.

If this happens you can expect me asking for skype info. ASking to spectate your games and tell you how and why and when you didsomething wrong and how and why to improve etc.

I will be completely critical of everything you do and I will not hold back and butter you up. If you won't listen I won't waste my time. You must be willing to understand you are new and therefor suck at the game and everything it involves.

So I must build you up.

Most bronze players have decent mechanics. Some even have plat level mechanics because they are teenagers on caffeine.

Don't play like you expect to be the most mechanically solid player in the game when you are in bronze and you can't climb. Being in bronze is one of the worst places to play like that because teenagers have lighting fast reflexes.

How do you win if you can't outplay them mechanically? Strategy(control baron by baiting bottom lane with a minion train, baron/dragon ambushing, back dooring) and babysitting the players on your team who are also strong mechanically.

Also keep in mind. You have to play a lot of games to climb. But that might also mean winning a lot(after coming off tilt of course).

I apologize if this comes off as rude or critical, as I myself have not played ranked yet, but skimming your match history, I have a question. When you jungle, why do you never upgrade your jungle item, if you even keep it at all? The upgrade is extremely valuable as a jungler, especially for objective control. Two of the jungle upgrades allow smite to be cast on enemy champions, which can be that extra bit needed to secure the kill or objective. Another recommendation I can make is to frequently look up guides for champions. A site I trust is solomid.net, as most of the guides go fairly in-depth on the champion, and build. I personally have not played the new Ashe, but I'm not so sure Essence Reaver is the best item for her, especially as the first item. It isn't bad, per se, but there are more optimal items for her. If mana is the issue, grab a few mana pots, or be more mindful of your mana pool. Hopefully this can help even a little, and best of luck in your games. On the plus side, you can only improve from where you are now.

Honestly, I think you need to look at your champ builds and item buying order. It's not always obvious why you're losing a match-up until you start looking into the numbers. I haven't looked through your masteries or rune pages but I have a feeling there may be areas to improve there as well.

If you want any particular advice let me know.

if you had great mechanics and good map awareness, quite simply, you wouldn't be in bronze 5.

i got to low gold with average mechanics and pretty shit map awareness and now i'm pushing up to plat by getting better mechanics on my main (irelia) and working on my map awareness to make plays.

another big thing to do after important champions are killed or teams are aced is to ping the next target. whenever I ace an enemy team I like to ping dragon, or baron or an inhibitor or whatever is the most desirable target at the time and then people will follow you like lemmings. just make sure to ping warnings when the enemy team respawns to get them to disengage.

First, go to a site like probuilds.com and look at any champion you play. Sites like that will show you exactly how challenger level players build champions, and you'll generally see champions have very similar builds every game, because they always go for the most efficient build paths, with some variations based on what would be best for the individual game. You're building some reaaaaally inefficient items on champions and squandering gold, which is probably making you lose a lot of games you'd just smash otherwise. I can't emphasize enough how much your builds are hurting you - you'll have a much, much easier time winning games if you have conventional builds.

For example: pure damage Xin Zhao might seem like a good idea. Why isn't it? Because while being pure damage gives him extremely high burst and does let him win duels, he becomes completely useless in teamfights because he's very likely to die just to AE damage before he does anything. That's not the worst of your builds by a long shot, though. On fighters like Hecarim, you normally want to do Triforce as his only damage item. That's usually all he needs. If you go more than that, you'll be too fragile and just explode as in the Xin Zhao example. Building damage on Mundo is a really, really bad idea and you should basically never do it. Mundo is regarded as a lategame monster who's unkillable for heavy magic teams, but his threat is based entirely around the constant damage he does with burning agony, the AD steroid he gets, percentage health damage from cleavers. Building damage on him at all is extremely inefficient because it doesn't meaningfully increase his threat significantly compared to just running off his base values and being an unkillable god who runs people down.

So tl;dr - go to a site that lists the build orders of good players, look exactly at the order they bought items for the champions you play, realize why they did it, and then duplicate it. Your play will -immensely- improve.

Your in bronze cause your bad and you should feel bad. If you want to man up and get out of bronze go do it, don't write a fucking journal entry. This ain't "Dear Diary, My team didn't carry me in ranked today and I'm butt hurt." You are one of two things: 1. A troll. OR 2. You have no comprehension of your inability to play this game. Your blinded by the bs some people said that your good. I just looked at your games. No! i'm pissed now after reading your post and looking at your games. If you want to get better you'll accept the friend invite I sent you and let me coach you and you give you tips on how to play the game. That is if your serious, cause you have no excuse to be loosing after you come play with me. I have gotten people out of bronze on a weekly basis just by telling them who to play, what to build and how to do it. BishopTKO. Add him and i'll do normals and review your games. NO EXCUSE FOR YOU TO POST SHIT LIKE THIS.

hey there man im plat and back in season 3 and the start of season 4 I was bronze but I got better. One thing you should do it not blame your teammates, sure there are unwinnable games but don't chastise your team even if they are doing poorly it will just make them play worse most of the time. You can try to give them advice but if they turn it down just ignore them. Using mute is one of the best things in this game if you have someone who is being annoying on your team.

I recommend getting better runepages as well. Get 9 ad marks 9 armor seals 9 magic resist glyphs and 3 ad quints for the basic page. After that get magic pen marks and ability power quints and use them in your second runepage for mages and ap people.

Look up guides and builds on lolking and probuilds and watch a streamer like dyrus or c9 balls. Watching youtube videos and streams on twitch made me a lot better. You should try out wukong top and mid watch allorims wukong videos here: http://youtube.com/AllorimLoL . He is a challenger level wukong main and I learned a lot about top lane from him.

Since I also play top lane quite a bit I can tell you a few ways to easily win games in bronze silver and even gold. Get the enemy jungler to come top by beating your enemy laner but also use a lot of wards so you don't get caught out. This leaves the rest of the map in a 4v3. Also no matter how bad you think your bot lane is each game you get the same chance of having a good bot lane so you cant just blame that.

The last piece of advice I want to give you is try out new champs in top lane and see how it goes and if it goes good try to learn them and then use them in ranked. Peace

So with you doing well in normals just goes to show how low ended your normal MMR actually is. You could continue playing normals to get to harder opponents if you want more pratice.

You need to complete your rune pages, Use all 30 points in your mastery tree, and learn correct/optimal builds. Pre make 20 mastery pages instead of trying to make them on the fly, since i think you have a game play (numbers)understanding issue.

just play strife .. more rewarding and fun anyways.

The first thing to change in these situations is your attitude.

Quit the can't carry mindset, and carry. Every loss is your fault.

I know that sounds harsh, but it's the truth. Every single loss, you could have done something drastically different which could have altered the course of the game. Even minor things can quickly snowball out of control and lead to a win.

Don't get to the post game screen thinking, "Damnit, if we didn't have that feeder Varus on our team we would have won." Instead, you have to think to yourself, "Would it have been better for me to focus getting Varus ahead more, or should I have super pushed in my lane as hard as possible after buying an upgraded Yellow Trinket to ward their topside jungle, and, hopefully, allowing for an early free inhib?"

"Was diving for the enemy adc in that fight really the right call, or should I have stayed back and CC'd/killed the enemy jungler who was diving my own adc?"

"So I bought a pink ward at 10 minutes and stuck it by our blue buff, and it was there until like 30 minutes, sure, that's good value, but maybe I should have repurchased it and put it somewhere more immediately useful."

There is always something you can change (whether or not it would turn a game into a win, lost cause games do exist).

Looking at each game analytically to see how you as a player could have performed better WILL help you improve.

edit: Buy more wards, and stare at your minimap at all times.

Your mindset is fucked up. Fix it then go play Sion. Any role.

gg

You have more problems than this game if everything about it depresses you. Fix your builds, fix your attitude, and ask yourself what goes wrong during every game and what you could have fixed when it occurred.