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A common jungler problem.

Nosnide·5/11/2015, 7:38:13 AM·1 votes·630 views

I main Wukong jg and usually play that role. I usually check to see what the stats on the enemy team are and compare them to my team so i know who is strong on my team and vice versa. Sometimes i notice that my bot laners are less experienced or not as good of players as the enemy bot laners so i would think 'ok, i should try and camp bot and help them out so they dont tilt', but then what usually happens is i ignore them because opportunities mid/top appear where i can get a kill or get a kill for the laner. But then usually bot lane ends up feeding (sometimes really bad) either the enemy jg or their bot lane. Then late game, unless the lanes i helped get fed are good and dont fall off we have a really hard time vs the enemies that fed off of my bot laners. My question is: Should i focus more on helping my weakest lane or my strongest? If a lane is feeding i read you dont gank em and try to get your strongest lane to snowball, but this is also assuming that the lane you help get fed knows how to play and can carry you late game.

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AyRe CoNteMpT5/11/2015, 9:09:33 AM2 votes

there is no simple answer to this. generally, you want to see which lane has the best players for your team and the weakest players for the enemy team. you can do that in the first three to four minutes while clearing your jungle and then decide where to gank. also, ofcourse, make your decisions depending on the laning champions. ganking your vladimir against the enemy hecarim is probably only the second best idea.

also, if your botlane has caitlyn janna, ganking them EVER is probably also just a very big waste of time while if they have graves leona, you could definitely try doing it if they can stay at 0/0 even when losing lane. tho only do that if you feel like the chance of success is high enough, because ganking botlane also holds a higher risk of you dying for nothing.

also, never gank a feeding lane. they are not worth much gold anymore and the chance of them having not enough damage to follow up your gank and you dying to the enemy laner or a countergank is massive, so its usually not worth it except if you are allready as fed or even more fed than the fed enemy laner and are sure you can take him out 1on1.

so, what i usually do is find the best laners on my team or the worst noobs on the enemy team and gank the shit out of them to get myself and my respective lane some sweet gold and then proceed to abuse our power TOGETHER. this means, if i ganked toplaner and hes 3:0 now, i will usually do more action with him as in diving the enemy midlaner 3on1, invading the enemy jungler or even ganking botlane together.

if it was the botlane i got fed, i will usually keep protecting them by pressuring mid/bot jungle and warding for them so they can keep pushing and pressuring the bot towers, dragons or even rotate midlane with them.

also, later in the game, it is very important that you decide what your role in a teamfight should be. this has so many nuances that its impossible to tell you what you should do without a specific example, but one thing to generalize is that if your ADC is very fed, you should use all your focus and strength to peel for him.

TotN Titan5/11/2015, 12:26:21 PM2 votes

I can honestly say that I don't look up all the summoners on each team to decide where I should put my focus. I have found all too often that the information I am looking at doesn't tell me the current mindset, champion selection, or game conditions that effect how their lane is going to go. Instead, I prefer to look at the match-ups as I start my first clear.

I watch how the lanes are pushing or if some lanes are trading more aggressively than others. I read the chat for summoner spells that have been used. I read the minion waves to see if there is a good opportunity to follow up on my own teams engage. I watch health bars of both my laners and theirs to see if there is a weakness to exploit.

Part of jungling that I love is that each game is different, even if you have the same people or the same champion match ups. Every game is going to be a different challenge and reading the game as you go is part of that challenge. I know that as a jungle Wukong, you need to be exceptionally aware of what lanes you can get a kill and still keep yourself from feeding the enemy laners, but if you are able to, you have an incredible influence on how the game is going to play out.

Commit Sudoku5/11/2015, 9:03:44 AM1 votes

it depends on the champions if your mid is a control mage and your top is a tank they wont be able to kill the fed enemy adc late game so focus on that bot lane, everything is situational.

if you have a riven in a favorable match up top get her snow balling and they can deal with the ADC late game or if you have leblanc or zed mid.

ValyrianBlade5/11/2015, 9:27:35 AM1 votes

Other posts have said most things. Just a little to add: Pay attention to which lanes are trading heavily. If mid and bot are barely trading and are even around 80% health at level 3, but top has been trading excessively and both are around 25% health, get to top. Whichever jungler gets there first is getting a free kill.

If you notice bot Lane going all in and you even know your team is going to win the all in (but survive on under 50% health) it's probably a good idea to head down there. Don't waste time (ward, do the crab) but just be there. I can't tell you the number of times as adc i get a double kill on the first all in, intend to just clear the remaining 6 minions then recall, and get ganked within 15 seconds. It's definitely worth you missing a jungle camp to make sure your adc gets to snowball off of that all in (and if your bot Lane is getting solo kills you are going to have a good time letting them carry).