This is dedicated to all ADC mains

TyWdtSHg1K·Dec 20, 2014·64 votes·7,951 views

I dedicate this message to all ADC mains. Granted, not all adc players might fit this description, but the percentage is so high that I might as well assume it is the norm. This message is not motivated, either, by the fact that out of the 8 games that I played today, the only 2 defeats were due to flaming/feeding adc's who ragequit after the first 10 minutes, eventho the game was perfectly winnable.

So dear adc's, please read: 1- your support does not like you 2- if jungler ganks bot, it's not for you to get snowballed. It's to cause the enemy team adc to ragequit. 3- your jungler doest like you 4- mid laners dont like you 5- if top laners teleport bot, its to squash enemy adc's. It's not because they like you. 6- your jungler doesnt really wana give you the red buff. 7- you are never the sole reason a game is won, yet you are always part of the reason a game is lost. 8- your support is not your bitch 9- the support isnt YOUR support, it's the team's support. 10- you have to ward like every fucking one else. 11- chances are, no one in your team really likes you. 12- whenever you lose your lane, you give up like a little bitch. No one in any other lane gives up like that.

13- if you're part of that 0.1% of adc's that does not flame/afk or intentionally feed, I salute you.

My experience with adcarrys through bronze 4 up to platinum 2 (where I am now) has always been the same. They will quickly spam surr, blame support and jungler, feed, afk, ragequit, and be total dicks.

Dear ADC's, most of us dont like you.

103 Comments

AlljoyDec 20, 201458 votes

To be fair, I think no one really likes anyone in YoloQ.

TonyTonyMordecaiDec 21, 20143 votes

YoloQ LOL XD Thank you for reminding me about this one! It was hilarious the first time I read it, and it's still funny! I mostly play normals now, but after some more practice and watching other people play, I started getting a better handle on what ACTUALLY goes into winning a ranked game (solo or team): Work as a team. No one can single handedly carry the game because the players queued up with you have a rather better understanding of the game, and what they need to do in order to kill you without putting themselves in danger.

AlljoyDec 21, 20145 votes

I don't know, after five months of playing support and jungle I've only come to one solid conclusion.

I think I've come to genuinely hate most if not all the people I tend to play with and while I do my best to bottle it up, toxicity or otherwise, and I'm sure I do it fairly well because I haven't been banned yet, I doubt it'll change. And were it not for the fact that I find League so much fucking fun, I'm fairly certain I'd have left after my first month here simply because of the community.

I mean, lately all I do is mute everyone in a game right off the platform and pretend it's a bot game.

TonyTonyMordecaiDec 21, 20143 votes

That's a good strategy, but I sometimes like talking to my teammates, especially if they seem like fun people. I've been banned once just because I constantly left games because I was either doing bad, or they were being toxic. I don't really remember much since this was a couple years ago when I first started playing. And I hated jungling, not only because I tried to help out everyone equally, but every five seconds, when I would go help top after I helped mid lane, bot lane was crying for a gank, even though I clearly didn't have teleport, nor was I Pantheon, so I couldn't just hop down there in a second. I also could barely get the hang of the whole camp clearing in a timely fashion down, so I barely go there for practice very often, and I got Yi specifically because he was considered a strong jungler, and I thought, "might as well start somewhere :I" There needs to be some sort of attitude improvement in the community, or else less and less people will want to try League (or first time playing a MOBA for that matter) because their friends played it, and since friends aren't online all the time, you might as well do soloQ since that's the next best thing.

AlljoyDec 21, 20144 votes

In my experience, even fun people turn sour at the drop of a hat so I'd rather not risk my rhythm being thrown off because someone decides to have a temper tantrum in chat.

It's also why I don't really bother helping anyone via tips or suggestions even in the sweetest manner possible because chances are they'll flip and turn toxic at the slightest inclination that someone might have the gall to tell them what to do, even if it'll help. Besides, you'll never see them again so why bother.

You're right, a change might be nice but I doubt it'll happen so till then I'll just bottle it up and autopilot on.

TonyTonyMordecaiDec 21, 20142 votes

Yeah, good point. I guess if the toxicity continues to escalate steadily like it has been recently, then I will do your method and just mute everyone right off the bat, because I don't need their attitude to distract me from what I need to concentrate on.

AlljoyDec 21, 20142 votes

Pretty much. It's bad enough when your patience wears thin if they fuckup while playing but you can tolerate that because hey, you fuck up too, but if they constantly do it while being toxic?

Fuck, it's enough to even make the Buddha weep.

TonyTonyMordecaiDec 21, 20142 votes

That last line made me laugh XD I can tolerate people being a little negative, even toxic, but I hate it when they do it after I mess up royally, and then don't help clean it up and make the most of what I tried to do. The community, where it currently stands, kind of beats you up on mistakes pretty harshly. It's sad to see it happen because I know for a fact that getting berated on for anything in general is harsh. Happened to me way too many times to have it continuously happen in a game

YeklerDec 21, 20143 votes

Well I agree the community Is a POS. But I may be moderated for this but so is RITO they have propaganda 78% of tribunal punished do not re commit what they were punished for Tribunal has been down for like AN ETERNITY! Its a filter script system of some sort. I actually sent in an email explaining one game was so toxic I stayed back to defend base and wait till game over to report a player. In the email I complained that leaver buster Que punished me cause I did not kill enough minions and mentioned that some script to enforce rules was not good enough. The reply email came saying they would look into the player I reported for scripting. No system and a un moderated bad player report board where we could add S*(& list players and rely on the community and reputable players word to have them excluded from games we are in. Instead of a Ignore list just do not allow a match to have anyone on anyone's ignore list play together period eventually toxic players will not be able to play or in the least will take forever to find a game.

ImHerVoiceDec 21, 20142 votes

amen, I've been doing that since end of season 2 brother. I don't even make friends anymore unless they add me post game.

LegostrikeDec 21, 201423 votes

As a support main, ADCs come in two classes as far as I've see. Class One) The Jerk: We all know and love this one.

Class Two) The Worker: This guy is either nice, indifferent, or doesn't talk. He tries to get the job done regardless of the situation and recognizes what needs to be done. He NEVER yells, rages, or flames at all, he just does his best.

Brenticus12Dec 21, 20143 votes

Then there's the bipolar one who acts like Class two for the beginning half then Class One for the second half.

Jeddy017Dec 21, 20142 votes

Or the other way around where they take the chill pill.

AlljoyDec 21, 20142 votes

I've found the suppository type works wonders.

Prometheus856Dec 20, 201417 votes

dear misunderstanding teammate:

I'm sorry that you don't like me, but honestly, I don't really care that much. Nobody really likes anyone in soloQ. But allow me to shed some light on why I act the way I do.

First and foremost, whoever it is you're playing as this game, you have it easy. Maining an ADC is hard work. You using what are arguably the weakest class of champs in the game for the sole purpose of pushing down towers, and it is next to impossible to get back into the game if you fall at all behind, without piggybacking onto another player's advantages. One wrong move, and you'll find yourself dead in 3 hits with no chance to fight back. But do you know why we main this role, despite all that? Because unlike mid, top, or jungle, there is only room for one successful ADC in a game. If your botlane is ineffective, your game is over. We act like we're the lynchpin for the game because we are.

When you're playing ADC, not only are you suffering the most temperamental role in the game, you are also utterly dependent on another player to win your lane - because of this, you'll also find yourself the victim of League's god-awful communication abilities in a way that is unique to botlane. That's the primary reason for our anger - because we'll see a trick coming, find a moment for a perfect initiation, or realize a fatal flaw in the other team's lineup, and be unable to communicate it in time. There is nothing more frustrating on this Earth.

And after all that's said and done, I know that you still only see me as a flaming asshole, but that's because you don't play with me for more than one game. You see me frustrated at the god awful support that was forced into a role which wouldn't exist, were League 4v4. You see me raging at my jungler for not ganking, not because the other jungler has ganked my lane successfully, but because despite how hard he's camping our lane, everyone else is still losing harder, and our own jungler is 0/0/0, 12 minutes into the game. Believe me, if our situations were reversed, you would be just as frustrated.

What you don't see is the 4-5 times a week I mystery gift my support for landing absolutely incredible plays and helping me win the lane. What you don't see is me successfully captaining a team when I snowball my lane advantage into dragons, midlane and eventually a game win. And what you choose not to remember is when that ADC went 12/1 at the end of laning while the rest of you were 1/5, and he never complained, never expected anything of you but for you to continue playing. And he won you the game.

So take a step back next time. Consider why the ADC is so mad, and consider what that means for the game as a whole. Recognize that it isn't blind rage, there is a cause, and it's completely out of our control.

Consider, for a moment, that your ADC might actually have a reason for being angry.

Sincerely,

Every ADC ever.

HellMuffDec 21, 201418 votes

{quoted} Sincerely,

Every ADC ever.

dear misunderstanding teammate:

Your not the only roll that can fall behind, junglers do aswell, as does mid and top. Your not the only lane that can get a gank, and ganking bottom lane half the time is useless, due to the fact you NEVER get a pink ward or counter ward what so ever Also, half of you need to learn to last hit only, and how to hold a lane. When your ready for a gank dosnt mean i am, if im soon going b or have had held on to much gold for to long, im not ganking. Sure when im ready to gank you and your not ready, dont expect me to hang around and cut into my xp/gold to wait for you to get ready, im gone and off to another lane, maybe youll be ready when i am next time.

Because unlike adc, there is only room for one successful jungler in a game. If your bot lane is inefective, then plan around that, the only reason we "need" you is because they have one. Your not the lynchpin, your a mobile tower that we have to carry to late game and then protect at late game or your useless.

Its called a team game, your not worth shit and neither is anybody else.

Sincerely The Junglers

DryditchDec 21, 20145 votes

This ^^^

Gonna point out... AGAIN... that Roll = Food, and Role = Position.

LittlefingerPvPDec 21, 20144 votes

As well as your = possessive and you're = you are, lol.

I realize it's just a forum post, but shit, his grammar is appalling.

DryditchDec 21, 20143 votes

Haha, yeah.

The Roll/Role thing was one of the first comments I made on boards, so it's a bit of a running joke with me.

Grammar is important in all aspects of life. It's the difference between "Let's eat, Grandma!" and "Let's eat Grandma!"

Forums or not, you present yourself to the world by any name, by any face, and that is how people will judge you. Be a dick, be impolite, appear uneducated if you want--just expect that no one is going to take you seriously if you do.

The WhamboozlerDec 21, 20147 votes

{quoted} We act like we're the lynchpin for the game because we are.

This is the part where I laughed and stopped reading. You're a part of the team, not the entitled messiah who wins the game and whom the entire thing revolves around. It's this sense of "OMG guys, I'm more important than ANY OF YOU" that fosters this hate of ADC mains in the first place. How about, thank your team for their help, realize that you need a lot of backup to do your job, and accept that other roles can carry a game as well, so you shouldn't be a raging tit.

jimmylismDec 21, 20148 votes

{quoted}

You using what are arguably the weakest class of champs in the game

Wat

Remlap1223Dec 20, 201413 votes

I think this idea of ADC mains being toxic fucks is an undeserved stereotype. It more has to do with the culture behind ADCs and the lack thereof of supports. I mean, why else do American eSports teams have to find Korean supports?

NagirahDec 21, 20143 votes

I think this applies to nearly everyone in soloq, not just adc. Adc just gets all the blame.

Vivid MandalaDec 20, 20149 votes

The problem isn't just adc mains its the culture around them, and the ridiculous generalizations made by people around them. The guy in that link is toxic, and some are like that, but when you imply adc is a staple role, and "necessary to teamfights", and can carry hard, you get the self-glorifying blowhards who play that role purely because of that. Call out the people who are toxic and refuse responsibility. Don't just insult an entire group because some of the less savory ones pissed you off.

76SummersDec 20, 20147 votes

man...these generalizations tho

disregardableDec 20, 20146 votes

No one in any other lane gives up like that.

I wish bro. It'd make my life so much easier if you didn't just hug turret and wait for us to rotate top. Seriously, it could take 10 minutes to get up there.

OneSlickPhonyDec 21, 20145 votes

Today I played in a match and the first thing I saw was:

"adc adc adc adc adc adc"

I could already tell that I would be supporting a retard, and guess what? I was right! He said "lol maybe if you warded" after dying to the fed Urgot (lolwhat?) when warding had nothing to do with his death. ...Really? As soon as I got SS, I warded the river, the tribush, and our jungler's blue every chance I had. When confronted with the fact that he was wrong and that I HAD warded, he says "not like it helped anyways". In the end, he died more than me because he kept trying to 1v1 the Urgot the he fed.

So far I'm on a 4 game loss streak (I did not directly contribute to any of these, though I didn't exactly do too well) after a 4 game win streak. Because of Riot's amazing matchmaking system, the teammates I get matched with are now butt-fuck retarded and the opponents seem exactly the same as they were before the MMR drop.

Ok, I feel much better after saying this... Also, I don't believe in ELO hell, just a shitty matchmaking system.

/endrant

Registeel1234Dec 21, 20145 votes

Totaly not ripped off Sky Williams' video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8N5yTdGhIU

ÀpheliøsDec 21, 20145 votes

Coming from a support main: I like my adc. My adc doesn't need to ward other than having a pink ward up. (I know contrary to most people's belief) Some stats: In the world championship playoffs guess how many wards were placed by deft, sneaky, and uzi: 0. I don't care if you ward, but you better not bitch at me if you die and they walked through a ward that I placed. That's your fault and you need to open up your eyes.

Please I see plenty of people give up after they lose lane, and it is much harder for an adc to come back versus another adc because there isn't much outplay potential(unless you are vayne) because it is basically all auto attacks and if the other person's autos do more you are gonna lose.

I won't say much for the mid laner hating the adc because this one I understand...once we get the tower we come mid and take your farm. Sorry you are welcome to go bot and take our farm and probably kill their adc.

The support is the team's support, but it is my job to keep the other people off the adc because I know my mid laner, jungle, and top laner all hate the adc so they won't do it.

As much as I hate it, the support IS the adc's bitch. Support is literally a role that is made to babysit a guy for 15-20 minutes then roam a bit and then go back to babysitting that person so they don't die. If that ain't a bitch I dunno what is.

Dear ADC, I love you, but please don't be stupid.

RaptameiDec 20, 20144 votes

And just because the support doesn't like the adc... Riot made an adc that can feed the support to the enemy team without permission. Wheee.

Ariel the CruelDec 21, 20142 votes

And to think. until that happened, I was actually considering playing ranked. Forever the unranked shall I be.

Brenticus12Dec 21, 20143 votes

The support controls when and where he shoots outs.

TyWdtSHg1KDec 20, 20144 votes

I just started a ranked game, this is the chat. Another reason to why we dont like adc's

Ariel the CruelDec 21, 20144 votes

I'm pretty sure that's a common tactic of all 1-role mains. Though if your going for the stereotype, the term you're looking for is: "Mid or feed."

Blank SpaceDec 21, 20144 votes

I'm an ADC main. Can confirm.

BrendânDec 20, 20143 votes

I only support when Im in a skype call with my adc.

GreenheathDec 21, 20143 votes

Let's be real, all roles are important because if any of them afk, you gonna lose. Its not like "dont worry its just the adc that afked we're good guys"

I think the reason for such toxicity in the bot lane is that its the only lane where your fate is even more inextricably linked with other players than usual. Even the greatest adc could be dragged down by an awful support. On the other hand, why supports don't afk more is unknown to me. You'd think they would being under the same conditions as the adc. I think maybe people who play support just tend to be the kind of person that isn't as self centred, because they know they can't do it alone. The proud, 360 no-scopers don't play support. They play carries and are more likely to rage if it looks like they won't/can't carry. The support knows it isn't completely on their individual performance to carry the late game and are more likely not to give up early.

stealthfox94Dec 21, 20143 votes

Could we please not solo ADC's out as the toxic players. I've run in to toxic people from every role. This should apply to everyone.

FDU BlackHarvestDec 21, 20143 votes

YoloQ is probably the funniest thing to watch when your not involved. When you are involved. Well. I Applaud your resolve :P

PhaiteDec 21, 20143 votes

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13- if you're part of that 0.1% of adc's that does not flame/afk or intentionally feed, I salute you.

thank you for the salute. much appreciated.

TonyTonyMordecaiDec 21, 20142 votes

I actually like this thread, because I liked playing as Jinx for majority of my games before I found other characters/roles to play, and because her VO's are the best out of everyone in the game. And I hate it when I get flamed at for losing the game, because, honestly, JESUS CHRIST!!! If I am doing SOOOO terrible for you to comprehend (sometimes I do terribly, I will admit it) AT LEAST HELP ME GET BACK AHEAD!!! I hate it when I'm Support too, because I'm blamed for being the sole reason the game was lost. Well EXCUSE ME for not having 100% CDR and infinite mana and 1000 AP at level 1 so that I can heal you 24/7, but I can't. I try to give the hint to play a little aggressive and try to get them to leave lane, when I am either ADC or Support, but both times I am with someone who doesn't really move in when I start to move in, not to mention the fact that I end up dying because I went in and I wasn't really thinking rationally, more so just panicked and wanting to get the lead in our lane back.

SarutobiDec 21, 20142 votes

Numer 10 really hits home. its like most people dont understand that we cannot place more than 3 wards. i have seen some people who will never use the trinket, but will complain to know end why a ward had died out, as if they cannot use theirs!

OblongOtterDec 21, 20142 votes

I like to think I'm above this, considering I picked up ADC as my secondary out of selflessness.

ZeroAnarchyDec 21, 20142 votes

When I jungle, I don't gank bot lane to get the ADC all happy, I gank it to have a higher chance of winning the game.

Angry MonsterDec 21, 20142 votes

I am not an ADC main, but... When i do ADC i dont liek my self adn i do not talk to myself afterwards for 30 minutes. Its to reflect on the horrible person i was that game.

ImHerVoiceDec 21, 20142 votes

LOL yeah knock that fucks down a few pegs. I can't +1 enough glares from jungle

GunpointDec 21, 20142 votes

Oddly enough I find Twitch mains to be an acception to this, seriously, idk why but I havn't met a flamey Twitch. I've also never met a flamy Urgot, but then again I have never met an Urgot.

AlljoyDec 21, 20143 votes

What's an Urgot

HassohappaDec 21, 20142 votes

And this is why I switched to mostly playing support from ADC. Because people like you devote more time to flaming the ADC than you do to trying to win.

healzshamDec 23, 20142 votes

Never mind how easy it is for a support to ruin the 2v2, wether by bad play, the innate restrictions to communication, or just honest mistakes on calls"

"I'm sona, I need to catch every mystic shot/peacemaker that comes across the creep line"

Support:"I'll sacrifice myself so the adc can live" adc:"oh, we're going back in"

"Alright, I'll hit this solar eclipse and shit'll be cash. Vayne has cleanse. Oops"

I may main adc, but I can admit I've been responsible for the latter two scenarios, more than I'd like to admit.

Edit: clarified the second scenario