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Is what I am doing wrong?

Their Jungler··1 votes·1,360 views

Basically I started playing around 2 weeks ago. Yes I am pretty terrible, but I am trying to get better. I lost like 10 matches in a row because I was trying new champions. My main right now is Morgana as support (since everyone fights like little kids for adc and mid/I don't know how to jungle). So, in champion selection, I end up leaving say 30% of the time before the game even starts for several reasons:

  1. People want to play champions in wrong lanes.
  2. People are already fighting before the game started
  3. People don't even speak so I just leave because I don't want a team without communication..

I get a penalty for this which is ok I guess, but is it wrong?

P.S. Is it actually good if level 1's leash golem? Because I get the perception that if the ADC helps then he's already giving early lane advantage to the opponent

12 Comments

disregardable2 votes

Yes, you should always leash your jungler. :P If both of you hit the Golems 3-4 times, you'll get back to lane before any minions die. Also, don't worry so much about the meta. You should focus on just trying to recognize all of the champions and how to play against them. It's okay if someone wants to take an ADC mid once in a while. I'd highly suggest playing some other roles too, last hitting is a very important skill that you don't want to overlook. Plus they can be really fun!

ATMACS2 votes

You wont miss any CS if you leash golems, and your jungler doesn't have to waste all of his hp on one camp. If you leave champ select and force 9 other people to wait minutes for a new game, I do believe that you should be punished.

Commit Sudoku2 votes

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P.S. Is it actually good if level 1's leash golem? Because I get the perception that if the ADC helps then he's already giving early lane advantage to the opponent

dude you should be able to make it to lane before the first minions dies if you are leashing correctly no advantage given

T RexHasTinyArms1 votes

This may be right since I don't know ADC/Support at that level very well, but I know for top/mid champs as well as almost all jungles, unless he is playing a LOT then he is probably too low a level to do it right. Jungle is way weaker w/out level 20 and access to real runes. If you only have 10-15 mastery points and no runes, you are significantly weaker at level 1 than level 30 accounts, and it may take you long enough to do krugs/gromp that it isn't worth it. Not sure. I know that I love jungle and even the difference between account level 19 and account level 20 is huge. SOOOO much more becomes viable at level 20, just because at 19 you need help due to lack of runes so only the strongest jungles for first clears are really worth it because the rest take long enough that if the other jungle plays it right they destroy your early game.

Leti the Yeti1 votes

You can dodge for whatever reason you want.. honestly I dun give a fak ;l

LegendaryLemur1 votes

{quoted} I get a penalty for this which is ok I guess, but is it wrong?

I usually judge based on Kant's Categorical Imperative ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universalizability ). If everyone dodged every queue in which their teammates were acting contentious or being incommunicative would that cause a problem? No, other than the longer queue times. I'd say it's not wrong.

Matthias91191 votes

At low levels people will do all sorts of weird things. Don't worry so much about whether people are playing the "right" champs.

Also it's probably barely worth having a dedicated jungler at those levels. Most champs can't do early clears well until you are at least level 20 and can equip T3 runes.

If you are just looking to practice new champs, try co-op versus AI matches. When you're good enough with a champ to thrash intermediate bots, then try PvP.

All that said, don't feel compelled to play out a match if you won't have fun doing so. The only penalty for dodging in normal matches - unless you're doing it constantly just to be obnoxious - is the time it makes you wait to queue up again.

T RexHasTinyArms1 votes

Dodging is fine, it's a game, you should have fun. For leashing it depends on if you mean for a jungle or for doing gromp/krugs for you and ADC to get levels. See my response to left for Zed for my opinion. At sub 30 levels (and even a lot of jungles when you're playing w/ all people who are level 30 accounts) many jungles really need a strong leash to not be set super behind in terms of clear speed. If the jungle is behind, they can't gank bc they are under level and have no items, so it is probably worth giving up a slight advantage (1 or 2 creeps) if it means your jungle is able to invade theirs since they are healthier, or is able to gank sooner or be stronger in counter ganks and stuff bc they cleared better.

Also I generally liked playing intermediate bots for a while just to get some levels and really get used to the game. People rage less, it doesn't matter where you go really, and you can play whatever you want and win. When you start stomping bots on the regular is when I really think PvP is worth doing unless you just really like PvP. If I play my main in bots to get the daily IP bonus and win fast I'm usually at like 40-50 kills by the end because I play Heimer and push fast, but a lot of people in bots want to camp kills for some reason instead of ending for that 150 IP bonus and dropping turrets in front of fountain and just killing every enemy bot before they leave the fountain tends to get your team to end the game sooner. (No one really cares about stalling out the game to kill bots when they realize that you can just sit at fountain and not die. Usually after the second or third penta kill where my team was trying to get in on it but can't w/ melee champs they just push and end)

I'm not good really (low silver) so stomping bots is a pretty good measure of being ready for pvp. I'd say intermediate bots are probably low bronze level skill wise.

Amelie1 votes

You are level 11... literally ANYTHING goes, in any lane. You don't "have" to play the meta until you're much closer to level 30. Stop dodging and just play the game, learn the champions, and have fun.

Carcus801 votes

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You are level 11... literally ANYTHING goes, in any lane. You don't "have" to play the meta until you're much closer to level 30. Stop dodging and just play the game, learn the champions, and have fun.

I would think most people would agree

  1. People are already fighting before the game started
  2. People don't even speak so I just leave because I don't want a team without communication..

Do not make for fun games.

AyRe CoNteMpT1 votes

wow you are playing for 2 weeks and you talk about "main champion" and "people play champs in wrong lanes" as if yoiu knew anything about the game. get your life straight man.

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